BP Help

[Gmarg22]

First Cycle, 6 1/2 weeks in..
Blood Pressure has slow gone up from 116/68 to 141/87.. RHR is up 12bpm. 43yrs old so trying not to fuck up

500 test
200 Mast (introduced 2 weeks ago to look less fluffy)
100 Deca for joints
.25 Adex twice a week

First question, is there a source for BP meds?

Second, should I change something up to bring BP down or ride this out the next 5 1/5 weeks?

I ordered Carditone today per a fellow lifter

 

[JamesDoe350]

is this your first cycle?

dont listen to anything i say.

my bp usually runs that high on a blast.

if your diet is on point, try taking salt out, or just use pink salt ONLY.

second, unless you have bloods done, or you know you convert heavy, dont take AI until you need them. Crashing e2 levels will cause high BP.

dashPCT has all the items you need. a few domestic, mostly INT.

if you have any updates let me know.

 

[zyzzsickkvnt]

i take carditone, garlic , hawthrone berry.... mine is usually a bit high on first try because im a bit nervous and thinking about the results, once i calm down a bit usually goes into the 120s or 110s... bottom number is always good no matter what.

 

[JamesDoe350]

i take carditone, garlic , hawthrone berry.... mine is usually a bit high on first try because im a bit nervous and thinking about the results, once i calm down a bit usually goes into the 120s or 110s... bottom number is always good no matter what.

carditone, ive heard that twice now. i get all my supplements from a natural store. I got an actual blood pressure med from them and it seems to actually sky rocket my bp. ill add carditone to my supplements if you think it actually works, until my real bp meds show up

 

[AHomie]

carditone, ive heard that twice now. i get all my supplements from a natural store. I got an actual blood pressure med from them and it seems to actually sky rocket my bp. ill add carditone to my supplements if you think it actually works, until my real bp meds show up

If it’s a natural store you aren’t getting actual bp meds

 

[JamesDoe350]

If it’s a natural store you aren’t getting actual bp meds

100% i understand. ill get my bp meds from dashpct. these are just natural options. my bp right now, on cruise of 500 test c is 117-80. im just getting them for my blast. when i got on tren, with an extremely shitty diet, my bp hit 150-90. these are just to try and limit the "harsh" effect of bp meds. they offer no sides bc they are natural.

do you know of a us domestic source, besides dash, where i can get bp meds?

i dont want cialis, unless you can say it actually works. i was told its just a temp fix.

 

[cc4me]

Liss cardio will help too.

 

[FrancoC]

100% i understand. ill get my bp meds from dashpct. these are just natural options. my bp right now, on cruise of 500 test c is 117-80. im just getting them for my blast. when i got on tren, with an extremely shitty diet, my bp hit 150-90. these are just to try and limit the "harsh" effect of bp meds. they offer no sides bc they are natural.

do you know of a us domestic source, besides dash, where i can get bp meds?

i dont want cialis, unless you can say it actually works. i was told its just a temp fix.

Cialis was developed for BP so it definitely works. Daily dosage of 5mg is usually what’s recommended but you can adjust up or down from there depending on how you’re responding

 

[Luxferro]

Reduce your dosage a lot. Reduce test and nandrolone specifically to 300/100 as these will cause the most water retention. Lower/drop AI (probably won’t need it with the lower dose + mast).

THEN, go to your doctor. Tell him you’ve been having high BP. You don’t need to mention steroids. Ask him for BP meds (take photos of your BP before reducing dose to substantiate your request). Physicians will readily prescribe stuff to lower BP.


You’re hypertensive dude. That’s no gd. Gains are useless in a coffin. High BP is no joke.

 

[TRT37BEEF]

Make sure your diet and activity is good too. I used to have slightly elevated BP, started walking at least 10k steps a day and it came down fast.

Stan Efferding has a great video on reducing BP and the first thing he mentions is the 10 min walks after eating.

 

[Colette]

Yikes. That's a significant jump in BP and I'd be very concerned if it continues to escalate at such a rate. Watch it carefully.

 

[Gmarg22]

I’m a dumb fuck and had gotten addicted to nicotine on my last cut when I was using it to suppress appetite. I had picked up some Zyn nicotine pouches and these sky rocketed my blood pressure. As soon as I quit that my numbers were perfect and I finished out my cycle. Gained 20 lbs in 12 weeks. Biggest and strongest I’ve ever been.

 

[acetate_jake]

3 compounds (one of them being a 19nor) on your first cycle? First cycle should be TEST Enan or Cyp ONLY with maybe an non-aromatizing oral at the end if your feisty.

Go to your doc and get a script for Telmisartan 40-80mg. If that doesn't work pair the Telmisartan with 5-10mg Amlodipine or 25mg Hydrochlorothiazide or 5mg Nebivolol, etc...

Also, You should be taking 5mg Cialis everyday for the foreseeable future. This is help a little bit for blood pressure, prostate health, in the bedroom, etc...

VERY IMPORTANT: GET BLOODWORK for "Ultrasensitive" Estradiol LC/MS/MS assay

If its lower than 20 pg/dl, then your e2 is low. If its higher than 40 pg/dl then I'd say its high. Higher than 50-70 is where u start seeing the harsh side effects for most men.

Everyone is different but ~30 pg/dl is the sweet spot for most men.

I wish you the best of luck my friend.

 

[Scaryclownz]

If you can find some legit Cardarine (GW-50156) - Considered a "SARM" it is a highly effective PPAR agonists that I have personally used and underwent bloodwork with. I was using Anadrol (and probably too high a dosage) at the time and BP was abnormally high - threw Cardarine in the mix and BP was perfect again (HDL and and LDL also improved significantly). My Endocrinologist saw my bloodwork and said, "whatever you're doing, keep doing it". Look around the internet and do some research on the forums and you can find legit sources and even order these "gray area" supplements legally using bitcoin or credit cards (although this is likely to change in the future). Just sharing my experience, but I think GW-50156 is a freakin' miracle drug with little to no negative side effects (Cancer studies were hugely exaggerated and poorly conducted studies on rats).

 

[TRT37BEEF]

I’m a dumb fuck and had gotten addicted to nicotine on my last cut when I was using it to suppress appetite. I had picked up some Zyn nicotine pouches and these sky rocketed my blood pressure. As soon as I quit that my numbers were perfect and I finished out my cycle. Gained 20 lbs in 12 weeks. Biggest and strongest I’ve ever been.

I didn't know that Nicotine increases BP. My BP average is 128/69, I take it every Saturday morning for the last 2 years since going on TRT to monitor. I have also been on and off nicotine (Rogue pouches) in that same time frame and never noticed my BP go up when I am using them.

 

[JamesDoe350]

3 compounds (one of them being a 19nor) on your first cycle? First cycle should be TEST Enan or Cyp ONLY with maybe an non-aromatizing oral at the end if your feisty.

Go to your doc and get a script for Telmisartan 40-80mg. If that doesn't work pair the Telmisartan with 5-10mg Amlodipine or 25mg Hydrochlorothiazide or 5mg Nebivolol, etc...

Also, You should be taking 5mg Cialis everyday for the foreseeable future. This is help a little bit for blood pressure, prostate health, in the bedroom, etc...

VERY IMPORTANT: GET BLOODWORK for "Ultrasensitive" Estradiol LC/MS/MS assay

If its lower than 20 pg/dl, then your e2 is low. If its higher than 40 pg/dl then I'd say its high. Higher than 50-70 is where u start seeing the harsh side effects for most men.

Everyone is different but ~30 pg/dl is the sweet spot for most men.

I wish you the best of luck my friend.

im glad there are people like you out there with a much info has you have and freely share it instead of bashing someone.

 

[Gmarg22]

I didn't know that Nicotine increases BP. My BP average is 128/69, I take it every Saturday morning for the last 2 years since going on TRT to monitor. I have also been on and off nicotine (Rogue pouches) in that same time frame and never noticed my BP go up when I am using them.

Gum does not effect my BP. The pouches on the other hand will spike my levels for close to an hour after use! Maybe it is the concentration/potencies of the salts

 

[movi3star]

Go to the doctor, get lisinopril or telmisartan, there's no reason to harm your health when you can be taking a benign pill that will save your life. Don't overcomplicate it my brother, they won't even ask questions. Plus... it's free!