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Can I ask this here?

BucksBrent

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Hey guys. Just recently found this forum. I like the vibe here much better than the other boards I’ve checked out. Is it okay if I post what I’m planning on doing for my next cycle to try and get feedback from you guys? I have no interest in posting that in any other forum I frequent. It always goes like… have you been training non stop for 10 years and never had a cheat meal? If no, don’t do steroids. Are you above 7% body fat? Don’t do steroids. Are you under 30 years old or over 32 years? No steroids! I understand they’re trying to steer people in the right direction, but the whole know-it-all tommy tough nuts attitude is really fucking annoying. So anyway… lol. You guys mind giving me some feedback if I post my plans or is that not really what you do here? No hard feelings if that sort of thing doesn’t get discussed here. Thanks.
 
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BucksBrent

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post away… but only if you are over 30 and under 3.5% body fat.
Dammit! I was wrong about you guys!! Hahaha

I’m 35 years old 6’1 and around 265 lbs. Probably around 25% BF at the moment. I’m going to wait a few months until I’m more in the 15-18% range to start this cycle. Outside of hitting the weights hard, I do a lot of cardio. I was 400 lbs at my heaviest. I’ve done a few test only cycles and an EQ and Winny cycle (before I blew up in weight). I’ll make sure I’m at an appropriate BF% before I start. I’m going to make sure I’m 100% prepared and everything is laid out before I do my first pin… dates I’ll get bloodwork, everything I need for PCT, etc. So this is what I’m thinking:

Week 1-4 50 mg Tbol (might do 75 mg?)
Week 1-14 700 mg Primo
Week 1-14 300 mg Test E
Week 11-16 50 mg Var
Also HCG 500mg or so a week starting around week 6 or 7. That’s when my grapes usually start to shrink.

PCT day after the last Var dose
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Being a 16 week total cycle, I was thinking maybe I should run a longer PCT, but maybe not since I’m running low test? I appreciate any feedback you’ve got for me.
 
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scrapiron

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Looks fucking legit to me man but I’ve never PCT’d.

Being lean does help. I put on significantly less fat with significantly more food when I’m leaner and blasting. I don’t know the magic percent but I shoot for sub-10. I started using gear when I was probably like 16-18% though. No judgement here from wherever you’re at.

Make sure you’ve got an extra vial of everything. Good luck dude and don’t hesitate to tell us about it.
 
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Checkmatelabs

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BucksBrent" pid='27647' dateline='1539225625:
r_on3" pid='27645' dateline='1539223843:
post away… but only if you are over 30 and under 3.5% body fat.
Dammit! I was wrong about you guys!! Hahaha

I’m 35 years old 6’1 and around 265 lbs. Probably around 25% BF at the moment. I’m going to wait a few months until I’m more in the 15-18% range to start this cycle. Outside of hitting the weights hard, I do a lot of cardio. I was 400 lbs at my heaviest. I’ve done a few test only cycles and an EQ and Winny cycle (before I blew up in weight). I’ll make sure I’m at an appropriate BF% before I start. I’m going to make sure I’m 100% prepared and everything is laid out before I do my first pin… dates I’ll get bloodwork, everything I need for PCT, etc. So this is what I’m thinking:

Week 1-4 50 mg Tbol (might do 75 mg?)
Week 1-14 700 mg Primo
Week 1-14 300 mg Test E
Week 11-16 50 mg Var
Also HCG 500mg or so a week starting around week 6 or 7. That’s when my grapes usually start to shrink.

PCT day after the last Var dose
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Being a 16 week total cycle, I was thinking maybe I should run a longer PCT, but maybe not since I’m running low test? I appreciate any feedback you’ve got for me.
Are you planning on doing another cycle within a few months? Yes? no pct, just cruise. Why put your body through all of that if you’re just going to go right back on?

No? PCT is fine.

IMO
 
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scrapiron

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I’m on board with checkmate. Less ups and downs. Also wouldn’t hurt to get your gear from him, I’ve been using his gear off and on for like a year or more and it’s always as advertised or better. Checkmate and Texas are my go-tos.
 
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JuiceLee

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BucksBrent" pid='27647' dateline='1539225625:
r_on3" pid='27645' dateline='1539223843:
post away… but only if you are over 30 and under 3.5% body fat.
Dammit! I was wrong about you guys!! Hahaha

I’m 35 years old 6’1 and around 265 lbs. Probably around 25% BF at the moment. I’m going to wait a few months until I’m more in the 15-18% range to start this cycle. Outside of hitting the weights hard, I do a lot of cardio. I was 400 lbs at my heaviest. I’ve done a few test only cycles and an EQ and Winny cycle (before I blew up in weight). I’ll make sure I’m at an appropriate BF% before I start. I’m going to make sure I’m 100% prepared and everything is laid out before I do my first pin… dates I’ll get bloodwork, everything I need for PCT, etc. So this is what I’m thinking:

Week 1-4 50 mg Tbol (might do 75 mg?)
Week 1-14 700 mg Primo
Week 1-14 300 mg Test E
Week 11-16 50 mg Var
Also HCG 500mg or so a week starting around week 6 or 7. That’s when my grapes usually start to shrink.

PCT day after the last Var dose
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Being a 16 week total cycle, I was thinking maybe I should run a longer PCT, but maybe not since I’m running low test? I appreciate any feedback you’ve got for me.
What are your goals for this cycle? If it’s a bulk I would get down to 12% at least. Otherwise you’ll end up 20% + at the end again. If it’s going to be a cut, it sounds decent , def enough anabolics to preserve muscle in a deficit.
 
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We’re kinda close in size and I’m doing a very similar cycle right now.

32yr, 6’2, 235lb, 8-10ish bf

After a failed deca blast (gyno scare) I went to:
50mg Tbol
250mg Test
800mg Primo
GH 4iu

This stack has me looking lean and mean. The primo really makes your shoulders pop like Tren and the vascularity is insane. I haven’t been too strict on diet either but still staying pretty shredded.

They say Primo basically has no sides but I found two: It kills my sex drive + affects my mood similar to Tren (but no where near as severe… just a little more jealous than usual). I added in 250mg Mast to help libido and it worked for the most part - sex drive was back but not like it usu is when blasting test or tren. The biggest issue was that while I looked sick af, I just wasn’t packing on size like I wanted. So I upped the Test to 500mg and Mast to 400mg. So far so good and libido is even better.

Also I used var on every cycle I’ve ever done and it was my fav oral. I decided to change it up this time and go with Tbol and man do I love it. Tbol > var for sure! I will pry never use var again honestly.
 
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PissedPajamas

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What are your goals for the cycle tho? The cycle doesn’t look bad but it can improve depending on wether you’re massing or dieting
 
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BucksBrent

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Thanks for all the feedback guys. I can’t figure out how to do multiple quotes and I don’t want to do multiple posts, so…

CML- No, I’m not planning on doing another one soon. I would cruise if I was. Good thoughts though.

Scrapiron- Funny you should mention that… I got Var, tbol, and test from CML and Primo and HCG from Tex

Juice- Yeah, definitely going for a cut. I’m looking forward to see what tbol, primo and var can do for me on that front. I’ve done a lot of research and tried to put together a really effective cutting cycle. This might be the last one I ever do, so I want to do it right.

ForeverTren- That’s some really valuable and pertinent info man. Especially since we are roughly the same size. Good to see you’re getting great results from 50mg tbol.

PissedPJs- Yeah, I’m dieting on this one for sure. Hoping to drop BF and tone up. What are your suggestions?

Thanks again guys. Sorry I didn’t use quotes, I tried and the post would’ve been a mile long.
 
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PissedPajamas

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BucksBrent" pid='27647' dateline='1539225625:
r_on3" pid='27645' dateline='1539223843:
post away… but only if you are over 30 and under 3.5% body fat.
Dammit! I was wrong about you guys!! Hahaha

I’m 35 years old 6’1 and around 265 lbs. Probably around 25% BF at the moment. I’m going to wait a few months until I’m more in the 15-18% range to start this cycle. Outside of hitting the weights hard, I do a lot of cardio. I was 400 lbs at my heaviest. I’ve done a few test only cycles and an EQ and Winny cycle (before I blew up in weight). I’ll make sure I’m at an appropriate BF% before I start. I’m going to make sure I’m 100% prepared and everything is laid out before I do my first pin… dates I’ll get bloodwork, everything I need for PCT, etc. So this is what I’m thinking:

Week 1-4 50 mg Tbol (might do 75 mg?)
Week 1-14 700 mg Primo
Week 1-14 300 mg Test E
Week 11-16 50 mg Var
Also HCG 500mg or so a week starting around week 6 or 7. That’s when my grapes usually start to shrink.

PCT day after the last Var dose
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Being a 16 week total cycle, I was thinking maybe I should run a longer PCT, but maybe not since I’m running low test? I appreciate any feedback you’ve got for me.
I’d run your cycle something like this

Week 1-6, 12-16: var 50mg/25mg winny (better than tbol solo imo, low on sides and great combo on a deficit)
Week 6-11: Tren A 250-350mg (take a break from the orals and do this. keep this run short and rotate it with the orals. 5 weeks is enough on tren to reap its benifits without too many sides)
Week 1-14: 700mg primo (can’t comment on this, haven’t tried primo)
Week 1-14: Test 300mg (no arguments here, my preference is staying at 200mg)

In my limited experience of cycling I’ve tried a few things and I’m just basing it on what I’ve done and what’s worked to get me looking juicy. Huge fan of the var/winny combo and rotating the orals with Tren

If you wanna burn more fat, cycle clen/T3/ECA as well. Short stints with each, the longer you stay the stims on the harder the crash
 
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DougFuckyouson

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BucksBrent" pid='27716' dateline='1539306031:
Thanks for all the feedback guys. I can’t figure out how to do multiple quotes and I don’t want to do multiple posts, so…

CML- No, I’m not planning on doing another one soon. I would cruise if I was. Good thoughts though.

Scrapiron- Funny you should mention that… I got Var, tbol, and test from CML and Primo and HCG from Tex

Juice- Yeah, definitely going for a cut. I’m looking forward to see what tbol, primo and var can do for me on that front. I’ve done a lot of research and tried to put together a really effective cutting cycle. This might be the last one I ever do, so I want to do it right.

ForeverTren- That’s some really valuable and pertinent info man. Especially since we are roughly the same size. Good to see you’re getting great results from 50mg tbol.

PissedPJs- Yeah, I’m dieting on this one for sure. Hoping to drop BF and tone up. What are your suggestions?

Thanks again guys. Sorry I didn’t use quotes, I tried and the post would’ve been a mile long.
If you’re cutting why not use tren ace? I would throw in 6-8 weeks of it (or until the side effects become an issue) and it’ll melt the fat off you. It kicks in extremely fast and if there are issues with it you can stop taking it and be fine in 2 days.

I’m running a 4 month test cycle and threw 600mg/Tren Ace for the last 8 weeks (currently 4 weeks into the tren) and it’s cleaning me up nicely. My strength is driving up like crazy and it’s making me so vascular it’s insane. The side affects can be a little much (insomnia) but once I tweaked the tren and test dose a little I feel fine.

Also as far as forums go check out the /r/steroids subreddit. They have daily ask anything and discussion threads. I’ve learned more there than I have anywhere else and it isn’t filled with un-researched bro science like a lot of gear forums.
 
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