Cruise cycle idea and advice

[EpicFlash]

Gents,
Looking for some advice. Multi cycle experienced user
All cycles so far were injectable
Zero experience with orals.
B&C user
Typical cycles are Tren based and have stacked various compounds with them
Usually short cycles and short cruises(8 week cruises)

Looking to try orals added to my cruise time.
Have Winny,Var and Dbol on hand.
The first thought was run a Var/Winny cycle for about 4 or 5 weeks. Not sure if 25mg or 50mg/day

I also have DBol but not sure how or (even) if it has any place in any of this.

Curent physique is fairly lean and vascular with visible abs and striations in pecs,delts .etc.

Diet in check and running maintenance or even a slight deficit has always been easier for me than surplus.

I do have some stubborn lower back fat (older guy) but that could also just be my dysmorphia. Lol

Next blast will be in about 6 weeks tren/test/mast

Any advice concerning running orals during this cruise appreciated.

 

[JobenClinton]

Dbol seems pointless as you’ll just get moon-faced and gain water, though I’m sure you’ll get some strength gains on your cut. Estro sides suck too, IME.

No experience with winny but I know it’s twice as androgenic as var and can be harsh on lipids/liver/joints… And hair too I guess lol.

Most people recommend 50+mg of var but I did fine with 25. If you have more than that on hand you might as well use it up!

Winny + var at the same time might be fine running it for that short of a time, but it could potentially be brutal to your health, depending on where you’re at now (you mentioned being “old”).

Maybe try 2 weeks on/2 weeks off?

 

[EpicFlash]

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Dbol seems pointless as you’ll just get moon-faced and gain water, though I’m sure you’ll get some strength gains on your cut. Estro sides suck too, IME.

No experience with winny but I know it’s twice as androgenic as var and can be harsh on lipids/liver/joints… And hair too I guess lol.

Most people recommend 50+mg of var but I did fine with 25. If you have more than that on hand you might as well use it up!

Winny + var at the same time might be fine running it for that short of a time, but it could potentially be brutal to your health, depending on where you’re at now (you mentioned being “old”).

Maybe try 2 weeks on/2 weeks off?

Thanks man. Ya hair is not an issue, lol
Didn’t think the dbol had any place but thought i could throw it out there cuz I don’t have any real oral experience and who knows…maybe someone had an idea based on what I am looking to do. Next blast is all short esters so I don’t even know that I’d use the dbol as a kick starter

And I did think about running the winny on/off during this cruise cut cycle and keep the var at 50 for duration.

 

[JobenClinton]

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Dbol seems pointless as you’ll just get moon-faced and gain water, though I’m sure you’ll get some strength gains on your cut. Estro sides suck too, IME.

No experience with winny but I know it’s twice as androgenic as var and can be harsh on lipids/liver/joints… And hair too I guess lol.

Most people recommend 50+mg of var but I did fine with 25. If you have more than that on hand you might as well use it up!

Winny + var at the same time might be fine running it for that short of a time, but it could potentially be brutal to your health, depending on where you’re at now (you mentioned being “old”).

Maybe try 2 weeks on/2 weeks off?

Thanks man. Ya hair is not an issue, lol
Didn’t think the dbol had any place but thought i could throw it out there cuz I don’t have any real oral experience and who knows…maybe someone had an idea based on what I am looking to do. Next blast is all short esters so I don’t even know that I’d use the dbol as a kick starter

And I did think about running the winny on/off during this cruise cut cycle and keep the var at 50 for duration.

Np.

I should mention, I’m very conservative when it comes to gear. I’m big on adding one compound at a time so you can understand sides, physical and mental reactions and even just to save money, so you might want to wait for more responses.

I personally would only take one of those orals, especially if it’s my first time taking any of them. And then I would probably take a below average dose. What if I start having bad sides and don’t know of it’s winny or var? What if 50 var does just as much as 75, but 75 comes with a bunch of extra sides?

But lots of people YOLO gear and turn out fine so what do I know lol

 

[EpicFlash]

Any other inout on this gents?

@“Masterofron” @“kingofcarbz” @“appropionate”

I know the input I seek is pretty basic, would really like to hear from some experienced guys… lots of bro science when I search internet…

 

[appropionate]

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Any other inout on this gents?

Cruising and the addition of any compound that will negatively affect your bloodwork or hinder its recovery from your blast seem contradictory to me.

The compounds that seem compatible with a cruise & healthy bloodwork are primobolan and hgh added onto a true TRT test dose (75-150mg a week depending on your response) - sufficient to retain a good amount of glykogen (looking full), all your muscle mass even on a diet and quite beneficial for liposysis, too if the hgh is timed away from meals.