Customer Information - Dragon Ordinance

[thallandchill]

Was just over on Meso and someone posted a pastebin in @“DragonOrdnance” 's thread over there with customer names, addresses and email addresses as well as supplier information.

Just figured I would give everyone a heads up over here.

@“CaptainAmerica”

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He’s posted customer information from PPL as well. The posts were deleted by Millard, but the information is still out there.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Wonderful. Isn’t Meso a beautiful place?

 

[thallandchill]

CaptainAmerica" pid='67889' dateline='1568042299:

Wonderful. Isn’t Meso a beautiful place?

It has its…quirks. Not my favorite place to visit, but I do from time to time to see what’s going on.

 

[system]

Why does seemably every single thread on there turn into a bunch of personal arguments? I went to look at the dragon ordinance thread and even on there people are measuring dicks by posting videos of their old bald selves posing to “prove each other wrong”. What in the actual fuck is wrong with so many of the people on these “big name” boards that causes an indefinite amount of e-fighting to take place 24/7? Is it just a lack of rule enforcement or is that behavior considered the norm by now? Genuine question, the only time I ever visited those sites was when I was a complete beginner and even then I soon realized it was a drama infested shit hole with little to offer knowledge wise. This isn’t the only board like that too, it’s like all of the front page of google pay-to-source types.

 

[Dexter]

Do you have a directlink to this?

Not that I’m on it, I’m just curious to see what happens when something like this is leaked.

Is it just names, do they have addresses, do they have what you ordered. If they have all three of these then it would possibly matter.

Otherwise they don’t know what you ordered and DO does sell stuff that isn’t illegal. They sell GSO, you could just claim you were buying some salad dressing.

And I like Meso, but it’s a rats nest for finding relevant info. There are nuggets on that board that are invaluable, stuff you won’t find anywhere else. It’s uncensored which I like, I just wish that after so many weeks there was someone to delete the irrelevant garbage. For me Meso is the ultimate source to expose shit sellers, they are ruthless if someone screws them. A seller that can make it on Meso, can make it anywhere because they’re a hard crowd to please. The way they treat new sellers, talking to them like trash, the vetting process, they’re almost sadistic.

 

[thallandchill]

Dexter" pid='67901' dateline='1568044892:

Do you have a directlink to this?

Not that I’m on it, I’m just curious to see what happens when something like this is leaked.

Is it just names, do they have addresses, do they have what you ordered. If they have all three of these then it would possibly matter.

Otherwise they don’t know what you ordered and DO does sell stuff that isn’t illegal. They sell GSO, you could just claim you were buying some salad dressing.

And I like Meso, but it’s a rats nest for finding relevant info. There are nuggets on that board that are invaluable, stuff you won’t find anywhere else. It’s uncensored which I like, I just wish that after so many weeks there was someone to delete the irrelevant garbage. For me Meso is the ultimate source to expose shit sellers, they are ruthless if someone screws them. As as seller if you can make it on Meso, you can make it anywhere because they’re a hard crowd to please and that’s why I like them. The way they treat new sellers, talking to them like trash, the vetting process over there, they’re almost sadistic.

I do not have a link at this time. However, I do not advise you to create an account over there at this time. Apparently the hacker is accessing people’s Meso accounts as well.

He posted pastebins of people’s names, email addresses and mailing addresses. They were cleared off pretty quickly but there is a lot of wild stuff going on over there right now.

 

[Dexter]

thallandchill" pid='67904' dateline='1568045824:

I do not have a link at this time. However, I do not advise you to create an account over there at this time. Apparently the hacker is accessing people’s Meso accounts as well.

He posted pastebins of people’s names, email addresses and mailing addresses. They were cleared off pretty quickly but there is a lot of wild stuff going on over there right now.

Ultimately does it even matter. So your name and address are on an obscure list.

If you’re just a small time buyer for your own needs and not ordering kilos of raws, I don’t think Meso is on LE radar.

I had an incident buying stuff online about 15 years ago using my creditcard, I ended up on a list of 20,000 people that were being investigated by the DEA, this led to hundreds of arrests, I shit my pants, but ultimately the big players went to prison and I never heard about it again.

 

[thallandchill]

Dexter" pid='67909' dateline='1568046763:

thallandchill" pid='67904' dateline='1568045824:

I do not have a link at this time. However, I do not advise you to create an account over there at this time. Apparently the hacker is accessing people’s Meso accounts as well.

He posted pastebins of people’s names, email addresses and mailing addresses. They were cleared off pretty quickly but there is a lot of wild stuff going on over there right now.

Ultimately does it even matter. So your name and address are on an obscure list.

If you’re just a small time buyer for your own needs and not ordering kilos of raws, I don’t think Meso is on LE radar.

I had an incident buying stuff online about 15 years ago using my creditcard, I ended up on a list of 20,000 people that were being investigated by the DEA, this led to hundreds of arrests, I shit my pants, but ultimately the big players went to prison and I never heard about it again.

I agree with you completely.

I’m not too concerned about it personally, since I’ve never purchased anything from DO or PPL. I just wanted to let people know, just so they aren’t blindsided by anything if something were to happen (which I doubt).

 

[emez]

Wow that’s super bad for all involved. Hope they get a handle on it.

 

[MikeAlstott]

Does this have any connection to the “hacker threat” that happened a month or two ago?

 

[Beetlejuice]

MikeAlstott" pid='67916' dateline='1568049673:

Does this have any connection to the “hacker threat” that happened a month or two ago?

Yes it’s the same hacker

 

[Dexter]

What are the record keeping practices of sellers, are they encrypted, is the data wiped by over writing drives after the orders are filled.

Are sellers with webstores easier targets for hacks?

None of this matters to most buyers, it’s mostly to keep sources safe.

 

[MikeAlstott]

Dexter" pid='67921' dateline='1568055107:

What are the record keeping practices of sellers, are they encrypted, is the data wiped by over writing drives after the orders are filled.

Are sellers with webstores easier targets for hacks?

None of this matters to most buyers, it’s mostly to keep sources safe.

Not necessarily. They have more surface area to exploit, so in some cases — yes. I don’t know the exact cause for this one, could be a number of things, could be a combination of things. Could be some social engineering, could be a misconfigured service. An employee could’ve been owned and not even realized it. The web store itself could have had a vulnerability, either public or private. If it was public and known then wow. I don’t understand why they would keep records of customers. I don’t understand why they would keep them and not encrypt them. It’s also possible the attacker had access for a while and was monitoring/recording all the transactions. Could have been an inside job.

 

[Dexter]

MikeAlstott" pid='67934' dateline='1568062566:

Could have been an inside job.

Yes it could have, all it takes is one ticked off employee to cause problems.

I hope they get it sorted out and it doesn’t hurt their business, raw sources like DO supply a long list of sellers and homebrewers that we all depend on.

 

[thallandchill]

kingofcarbz" pid='67893' dateline='1568043567:

Why does seemably every single thread on there turn into a bunch of personal arguments? I went to look at the dragon ordinance thread and even on there people are measuring dicks by posting videos of their old bald selves posing to “prove each other wrong”. What in the actual fuck is wrong with so many of the people on these “big name” boards that causes an indefinite amount of e-fighting to take place 24/7? Is it just a lack of rule enforcement or is that behavior considered the norm by now? Genuine question, the only time I ever visited those sites was when I was a complete beginner and even then I soon realized it was a drama infested shit hole with little to offer knowledge wise. This isn’t the only board like that too, it’s like all of the front page of google pay-to-source types.

It’s the lack of unmoderation and lack of rules in the Underground really. People can say/do what they want with little to no interference and long as no one is doxing another member or source.

You have a lot of people who have been there for awhile and they wear it like a badge of honor or something and feel like they have some need to defend it.

I’m not over there often, it’s hard to find anything worth reading when you have to sift through so much bullshit.

However, I feel like in the grand scheme of things it’s worth me popping over there from time to time to see what’s happening. Like what happened today with DO and PPL. They haven’t said anything over here about it. I thought it was worth letting people know that their information might be out there.

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MikeAlstott" pid='67934' dateline='1568062566:

Dexter" pid='67921' dateline='1568055107:

What are the record keeping practices of sellers, are they encrypted, is the data wiped by over writing drives after the orders are filled.

Are sellers with webstores easier targets for hacks?

None of this matters to most buyers, it’s mostly to keep sources safe.

Not necessarily. They have more surface area to exploit, so in some cases — yes. I don’t know the exact cause for this one, could be a number of things, could be a combination of things. Could be some social engineering, could be a misconfigured service. An employee could’ve been owned and not even realized it. The web store itself could have had a vulnerability, either public or private. If it was public and known then wow. I don’t understand why they would keep records of customers. I don’t understand why they would keep them and not encrypt them. It’s also possible the attacker had access for a while and was monitoring/recording all the transactions. Could have been an inside job.

It’s interesting because BoP was down for days due to an extortion attempt. So DO and PPL are targets of attempted extortion, they refuse to pay. BoP is targeted with an extortion attempt and go down. Then today said extortionist posts customer and supplier information of DO and PPL on Meso because they refused to pay.

 

[Masterofron]

Dexter" pid='67936' dateline='1568064674:

MikeAlstott" pid='67934' dateline='1568062566:

Could have been an inside job.

Yes it could have, all it takes is one ticked off employee to cause problems.

I hope they get it sorted out and it doesn’t hurt their business, raw sources like DO supply a long list of sellers and homebrewers that we all depend on.

This is most certainly not the case. The extortionist/hacker responsible has targeted a number of sources the last week or so, prior to DO and PPL.

 

[superawesomename]

I signed up for meso with an old proton mail and it was immediately spoofed. I’ve been getting fake source emails on it ever since.

So excuse me if I think meso is a sesspool to begin with, but I’m with everyone else. If LE wants to come knock down my door because I like tren and titty meds then let them, but in all honesty they have bigger fish to fry. Like everyone’s saying, if your not buying mad raws I wouldn’t worry.

And if we’re being honest, if LE want to find you cracking your router and finding out everything they can from your isp will definitely give something away. I know a lot of you dudes think you’re cute with vpns and tor browsers and shit but get a forensic computer scientist in your shit and I bet there’s cookie crumbs everywhere. I know I’ve left quite a trail lol

 

[Masterofron]

superawesomename" pid='68010' dateline='1568104754:

I signed up for meso with an old proton mail and it was immediately spoofed. I’ve been getting fake source emails on it ever since.

So excuse me if I think meso is a sesspool to begin with, but I’m with everyone else. If LE wants to come knock down my door because I like tren and titty meds then let them, but in all honesty they have bigger fish to fry. Like everyone’s saying, if your not buying mad raws I wouldn’t worry.

And if we’re being honest, if LE want to find you cracking your router and finding out everything they can from your isp will definitely give something away. I know a lot of you dudes think you’re cute with vpns and tor browsers and shit but get a forensic computer scientist in your shit and I bet there’s cookie crumbs everywhere. I know I’ve left quite a trail lol

Lol Your so right. Tor or no Tor, if LE wants you they will get you. But LE ain’t the concern with everything happening, scammers are.

 

[thallandchill]

superawesomename" pid='68010' dateline='1568104754:

I signed up for meso with an old proton mail and it was immediately spoofed. I’ve been getting fake source emails on it ever since.

So excuse me if I think meso is a sesspool to begin with, but I’m with everyone else. If LE wants to come knock down my door because I like tren and titty meds then let them, but in all honesty they have bigger fish to fry. Like everyone’s saying, if your not buying mad raws I wouldn’t worry.

And if we’re being honest, if LE want to find you cracking your router and finding out everything they can from your isp will definitely give something away. I know a lot of you dudes think you’re cute with vpns and tor browsers and shit but get a forensic computer scientist in your shit and I bet there’s cookie crumbs everywhere. I know I’ve left quite a trail lol

I agree with everything you say man. Like I said, I’m not concerned about it. I just wanted to make everyone aware that their information may he out there. You arent the only one who has left quite a trail lol

 

[sstaccount1]

Would love to hear something from Dragon right about now…