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cutting fat off

lol so if im cutting fat off can i still workout and gain muscle at same time asking fir a friend
 
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egoliftlowbench

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retard tier question but yeah sure you can gain muscle and lose fat at same time if you work hard as hell and stay around maintenance, nothing crazy even recomp on tren wont make you shed fat and gain muscle like a wizard
only ur diet and training will tell if it can be done for u sir
 
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Liska

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You can pull on a rope from both ends and if you’re a newbie and/or on sufficient gear have it both ways but it’s not exactly an efficient use of time & effort.
 
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effswithtren

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You can, but you probably don’t want to. Trying to do both generally gives half assed results in either direction. Pick whichever is bothering you more and focus on that.
 
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From my basic understanding and excluding the 100 variables
  • When muscle mass is built there is a corresponding fat mass gain.
  • when fat mass is lost there is a corresponding muscle mass loss
Diet, training and PED’s will impact the ratios these correspondences occur at.

I.e.
  1. A “Dirty Bulk lifting hard” without gear may produce a high ratio of fat to lean mass gain can increase overall body fat %.
  2. A well structured diet with a sensible calorie surplus (~500), solid training plan and correct anabolics program can reduce the fat to lean mass gain ratio.
If the ratio of fat gain to muscle gain is less than 1:1 then you can gain muscle while reducing overall bodyfat %. Also muscle and fat distribution can impact what a xx% body fat actually looks like. Ie someone with a 18% body fat on gear may a have well developed upper body which helps him carry the fat and look in better shape than a natty 18% er with a pencil neck and pigeon chest.

I remember some cyclists such as Floyd Landis got popped for Test. He was skinny af but the test probably reduced the ratio of muscle mass loss to fat loss and reduced “wasting” during the rigours of the Tour. This wasting prevention is something which most AAS were intially developed for.

I have no idea what these ratio ranges are mind you but i would be interested if some if the experienced bodybuilders / trainers know.
 
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