Cycle considerations

[grindcorejoe]

I’m going back on after being off for a year, for fertility reasons. I’ve got some test prop, tren a, test e, and eq.

Cycle 1
300mg test prop
500mg tren a
600mg eq
10weeks

Or
Cycle 2
300 mg test prop
500 mg tren a
10weeks

Cruise for a month then do

Cycle 3
Test e-900mg
Eq-600mg
15 weeks


I feel rusty on all this after being off for a year. Hence me asking for opinions.

 

[Gullinbursti]

My personal opinion would be to cruise for at least two months in between. Other than that, I guess I'd go with just the test and tren at first and save the eq for later

 

[Luxferro]

No fucking Tren or EQ. No, just no.

Tren is one of the most toxic AAS out there. It will also shut you down HARD in case you ever need to come off again for fertility purposes.

Not to mention the potential prolactin/progesterone issues and the possible need for caber. Fuck that. You’re not a competitive bodybuilder (and even if you were, Tren would be reserved for the last few weeks of a contest prep). Tren isn’t some magic anabolic sauce. What Tren does very well is PREVENT muscle loss through glucocorticoid receptor antagonism.

EQ is also directly nephrotoxic.

I have a better cycle proposition for you:

1) 300 mg test Prop
2) 300 mg Primo or Mast
3) Anavar 40 mg (2x per day) for last 4 weeks.

Much better for your overall health. No need for concern over prolactin/progesterone induced gyno. No nephrotoxicity.

 

[deathcore]

I second the extended cruise before jumping into option 3.

Option one is a little too short for EQ, Option 2 is okay but I’d personally do 300/300 and add a little bit of mast p and Option 3 is just fine assuming you know how to handle higher test doses.

 

[Gullinbursti]

No fucking Tren or EQ. No, just no.

Tren is one of the most toxic AAS out there. It will also shut you down HARD in case you ever need to come off again for fertility purposes.

Not to mention the potential prolactin/progesterone issues and the possible need for caber. Fuck that. You’re not a competitive bodybuilder (and even if you were, Tren would be reserved for the last few weeks of a contest prep). Tren isn’t some magic anabolic sauce. What Tren does very well is PREVENT muscle loss through glucocorticoid receptor antagonism.

EQ is also directly nephrotoxic.

I have a better cycle proposition for you:

1) 300 mg test Prop
2) 300 mg Primo or Mast
3) Anavar 40 mg (2x per day) for last 4 weeks.

Much better for your overall health. No need for concern over prolactin/progesterone induced gyno. No nephrotoxicity.

He already has the tren and is obviously familiar with it so hopefully he's aware of the risks. I think they meant what should they run that they already have. I don't touch tren either but to each their own

 

[FrancoC]

No fucking Tren or EQ. No, just no.

Tren is one of the most toxic AAS out there. It will also shut you down HARD in case you ever need to come off again for fertility purposes.

Not to mention the potential prolactin/progesterone issues and the possible need for caber. Fuck that. You’re not a competitive bodybuilder (and even if you were, Tren would be reserved for the last few weeks of a contest prep). Tren isn’t some magic anabolic sauce. What Tren does very well is PREVENT muscle loss through glucocorticoid receptor antagonism.

EQ is also directly nephrotoxic.

I have a better cycle proposition for you:

1) 300 mg test Prop
2) 300 mg Primo or Mast
3) Anavar 40 mg (2x per day) for last 4 weeks.

Much better for your overall health. No need for concern over prolactin/progesterone induced gyno. No nephrotoxicity.

Have you seen any reports on DHB toxicity? I’m thinking since it’s DHT derivative it should be fine?

Off topic but I tried searching out anything in regards to long term potential side effects that 19-nors tend to have for DHB

 

[grindcorejoe]

No fucking Tren or EQ. No, just no.

Tren is one of the most toxic AAS out there. It will also shut you down HARD in case you ever need to come off again for fertility purposes.

Not to mention the potential prolactin/progesterone issues and the possible need for caber. Fuck that. You’re not a competitive bodybuilder (and even if you were, Tren would be reserved for the last few weeks of a contest prep). Tren isn’t some magic anabolic sauce. What Tren does very well is PREVENT muscle loss through glucocorticoid receptor antagonism.

EQ is also directly nephrotoxic.

I have a better cycle proposition for you:

1) 300 mg test Prop
2) 300 mg Primo or Mast
3) Anavar 40 mg (2x per day) for last 4 weeks.

Much better for your overall health. No need for concern over prolactin/progesterone induced gyno. No nephrotoxicity.

Appreciate the honest opinion. I know tren is toxic , that being said I have run it in the past while competing in strongman an powerlifting. Had amazing strength results while on it, hence my reasoning for running it again.

 

[Gullinbursti]

Have you seen any reports on DHB toxicity? I’m thinking since it’s DHT derivative it should be fine?

Off topic but I tried searching out anything in regards to long term potential side effects that 19-nors tend to have for DHB

The only issue you'd possibly run into with dhb(which I love) is that from some sources and apparently it can be random and vary from person to person but there can at times be bad pip(I haven't experienced it), which can lead to almost systemic inflammation and feel like flu. Again that depends on sources and you. I've only used Hunter's DHB and it's been amazing. There were reports of it being possibly hepatotoxic, but those are false

 

[EpicFlash]

No fucking Tren or EQ. No, just no.

Tren is one of the most toxic AAS out there. It will also shut you down HARD in case you ever need to come off again for fertility purposes.

Not to mention the potential prolactin/progesterone issues and the possible need for caber. Fuck that. You’re not a competitive bodybuilder (and even if you were, Tren would be reserved for the last few weeks of a contest prep). Tren isn’t some magic anabolic sauce. What Tren does very well is PREVENT muscle loss through glucocorticoid receptor antagonism.

EQ is also directly nephrotoxic.

I have a better cycle proposition for you:

1) 300 mg test Prop
2) 300 mg Primo or Mast
3) Anavar 40 mg (2x per day) for last 4 weeks.

Much better for your overall health. No need for concern over prolactin/progesterone induced gyno. No nephrotoxicity.

I agree with your cycle proposition. And I also agree about the staying away from Tren….. but the nephrotoxic assertion about EQ is a bit blown out of proportion.. there are many AAS that can be impactful to kidney health…. EQ was identified because it was extensively studied in animals (horses) but the overall profile of EQ be8ngnone of the milder, safer AAS is still true….. let’s not group EQ and TREN in the same “danger” category ever.