Cycle critiques

[calvinjohnson81]

Alright, so I usually just run 500 test but want to try something different this go around.

250 test
250 deca
200 EQ

oral: open to suggestions, currently taking 50mg anadrol ED right now with TUDCA and NAC. I have access to regular bloodwork as well. I'm well-versed in test (TRT and then blasts like this), but what can I expect from running these compounds versus my regular cycle? I've read up on this stuff but I'm just trying to get back to where I was ASAP since I was hospitalized and lost 30ish lb. Couldn't keep up with the calories; I had stomach ulcers from being allergic to an NSAID after oral surgery.

so, is this a solid cycle? I don't want to take tren or anything that messes with me mentally. Anadrol makes me feel more drive in the gym but I don't want that to bleed over into my personal life.

 

[JamesDoe350]

Alright, so I usually just run 500 test but want to try something different this go around.

250 test
250 deca
200 EQ

oral: open to suggestions, currently taking 50mg anadrol ED right now with TUDCA and NAC. I have access to regular bloodwork as well. I'm well-versed in test (TRT and then blasts like this), but what can I expect from running these compounds versus my regular cycle? I've read up on this stuff but I'm just trying to get back to where I was ASAP since I was hospitalized and lost 30ish lb. Couldn't keep up with the calories; I had stomach ulcers from being allergic to an NSAID after oral surgery.

so, is this a solid cycle? I don't want to take tren or anything that messes with me mentally. Anadrol makes me feel more drive in the gym but I don't want that to bleed over into my personal life.

deca and npp are both nandrolone. im not sure how the deca ester affects nandrolone but for me, NPP fucks with me mentally super bad. i just have to take a step back and realize that life doesnt suck and i shouldnt kill myself. lol. im strong af on it and its nice because low sides and comparable to tren IMO, not the same but comparable.

if you have ran a 1:1 before with nandrolone and test and didnt have ed issues good, im glad, i ran test at 500 and npp at 400 and my dick barely worked. i had to go to 500/200 with a.i. and im solid now. npp is a better choice to me because fast in fast out, sides are easily manageable being the half life isnt 7 or 14 days, idr what deca is.

i would jack the test higher or drop the deca down. eq is fine. those are my only concerns. orals, do what you want, i dont like orals. risk vs reward just isnt worth it.

good luck! if you run 1:1 report back and let us know how its gone for dick health.

 

[calvinjohnson81]

Well, that's why I want the deca on the lower end. The EQ should have an AI effect, correct? Deca is so widely used I didn't know that it caused that many mental sides. But hey, this is why I'm here.

 

[JamesDoe350]

eq raises natural test levels, eq will also raise rbc so blood dumping is more important on eq. as far as using eq for an ai, i have never heard of that, just havent came across it.

just making sure you know, deca is the ESTER and nandrolone is the horomone. i think people run "deca" and have no sides because they arent running 1:1 or they arent prone to ed issues. i prefer npp, deca is a good choice, just be ready to fight sides longer IF you got them. thats all. just my opinion

run it 1:1 with what you mentioned and report back. we never know how were going to respond until we stick it in our glutes. lol

 

[Aoi_611]

What are your goals here?

(Reread your post and it looks like you want to gain size. This is just my suggestion. Do what you want with it.)

You’re running moderate doses of these compounds but it’s tough to discern what you’re trying to do. I’ve come to realize that bioidentical hormones like test are going to be the best choices for muscle building. Your body knows what they are and they’re conducive to growth with minimal sides. Once you reach the point where sides become an issue, you introduce things like primo or nandrolone to keep things going, without having to introduce ancillaries that can be counter productive.

An example would be running test as high as you can go, while using primo to control your e2, and if you wanted to push it further you could introduce a small amount of nandrolone to keep you growing.

Again, I don’t know what your goals are here, but understanding how steroids interact with each other goes a long way in mitigating sides and promoting growth.

I’m still learning myself

 

[deathcore]

I’m not a fan of EQ personally but I think it’s a solid cycle. What I am a fan of is pairing winstrol & deca.

Joints should be feeling good if you decide to push some heavy weight around with test+deca+eq.

 

[DjMcGriddy]

I haven’t had problems with npp causing depression but I have heard that. it’s different for everyone tho, have to try them and see , as far as eq for an ai, I’ve heard things about it sky rocketing your e2, I’ve heard more about masteron for an ai… hopes this helps. Seems like you got some good reply’s tho

 

[bahamu7]

I haven’t had problems with npp causing depression but I have heard that. it’s different for everyone tho, have to try them and see , as far as eq for an ai, I’ve heard things about it sky rocketing your e2, I’ve heard more about masteron for an ai… hopes this helps. Seems like you got some good reply’s tho

eq act as an AI, whoever's e2 skyrocketed with eq was not injecting eq.

To OP: If you don't want mental sides replace that doses for 400 test 300-400 primo and maybe some mild oral like anavar for 6-8 weeks

 

[calvinjohnson81]

What are your goals here?

(Reread your post and it looks like you want to gain size. This is just my suggestion. Do what you want with it.)

You’re running moderate doses of these compounds but it’s tough to discern what you’re trying to do. I’ve come to realize that bioidentical hormones like test are going to be the best choices for muscle building. Your body knows what they are and they’re conducive to growth with minimal sides. Once you reach the point where sides become an issue, you introduce things like primo or nandrolone to keep things going, without having to introduce ancillaries that can be counter productive.

An example would be running test as high as you can go, while using primo to control your e2, and if you wanted to push it further you could introduce a small amount of nandrolone to keep you growing.

Again, I don’t know what your goals are here, but understanding how steroids interact with each other goes a long way in mitigating sides and promoting growth.

I’m still learning myself

Well that's the thing, these compounds aren't bioidentical to testosterone and have different performance enhancing qualities. For instance, EQ increases stamina drastically. Deca/NPP lubricate the joints and are more anabolic mg for mg than testosterone. My strategy here guys, is to use as little test as possible to let the other compounds do the work instead of plain ol' testosterone this time. I know these compounds have other benefits and I'd like to try something new. I figured the deca/NPP estrogen side effects might offset some of the EQ sides (low estrogen is usually when people start having problems, not realizing that EQ converts into two potent AI's. I'm not a pro bodybuilder, I am just a guy who is in decent shape right now but was once in really, really fucking good shape. I had to deal with barely being able to eat for a few months and my body just melted on 800 cals a day, the test I ran at slightly higher than TRT just to preserve whatever muscle I could. I'm looking for, I don't know another word for it, but "fun" would be the word I'd describe it I guess. I want to experience something in the gym that I haven't felt before. I love the grind, but feeling stronger for a bit sounds like a great time. I'm not very well versed in masteron. Primo I hear is mainly just a very healthy steroid and not super anabolic like tren or anadrol. I'm definitely looking to gain back my size/appetite. If a bit of EQ can stimulate my appetite that'd be great. Deca/NPP lubing my joints up sounds nice, and they're more anabolic mg per mg. I'm also not trying to gain a bunch of DHT from the test, I'm not prone to hairloss genetically at all but I have shed a bit on anadrol but it grew back fine.

I just want to try something that will help me get back to the size I was (215 @ 5'11") and not be 170 lb anymore. I'm doing PPL 6x a week. I know NPP is a shorter ester, can I pin it twice a week or do I need to alter my routine? Hell, if there's just ONE compound you guys would suggest trying as someone's first time using a secondary compound I'd love to hear what you'd use, the ratios, and why. Let's build a helluva cycle, costs be damned.

 

[DjMcGriddy]

Mk-677 will allow me to eat endlessly…. As far as injections go I do all my injections every 3 days instead of looking at it weekly. You have to do a little bit of math to get your average tho, not saying you have to do it like that, just input

 

[Aoi_611]

Well that's the thing, these compounds aren't bioidentical to testosterone and have different performance enhancing qualities. For instance, EQ increases stamina drastically. Deca/NPP lubricate the joints and are more anabolic mg for mg than testosterone. My strategy here guys, is to use as little test as possible to let the other compounds do the work instead of plain ol' testosterone this time. I know these compounds have other benefits and I'd like to try something new. I figured the deca/NPP estrogen side effects might offset some of the EQ sides (low estrogen is usually when people start having problems, not realizing that EQ converts into two potent AI's. I'm not a pro bodybuilder, I am just a guy who is in decent shape right now but was once in really, really fucking good shape. I had to deal with barely being able to eat for a few months and my body just melted on 800 cals a day, the test I ran at slightly higher than TRT just to preserve whatever muscle I could. I'm looking for, I don't know another word for it, but "fun" would be the word I'd describe it I guess. I want to experience something in the gym that I haven't felt before. I love the grind, but feeling stronger for a bit sounds like a great time. I'm not very well versed in masteron. Primo I hear is mainly just a very healthy steroid and not super anabolic like tren or anadrol. I'm definitely looking to gain back my size/appetite. If a bit of EQ can stimulate my appetite that'd be great. Deca/NPP lubing my joints up sounds nice, and they're more anabolic mg per mg. I'm also not trying to gain a bunch of DHT from the test, I'm not prone to hairloss genetically at all but I have shed a bit on anadrol but it grew back fine.

I just want to try something that will help me get back to the size I was (215 @ 5'11") and not be 170 lb anymore. I'm doing PPL 6x a week. I know NPP is a shorter ester, can I pin it twice a week or do I need to alter my routine? Hell, if there's just ONE compound you guys would suggest trying as someone's first time using a secondary compound I'd love to hear what you'd use, the ratios, and why. Let's build a helluva cycle, costs be

That’s understandable…

Personally, I would be hesitant to run near equal amounts of test and eq, but I don’t aromatize much and my e2 gets tanked. With that said, anxiety and shitty feelings aside I really like eq, I get good strength gains and great fullness. Great compound to run but you really have to get the ratios right. Too close together I’m a bit leery of.

I personally get nothing out of npp. Nothing, and it’s a disappointment every time I try. It’s a shame because it’s a very safe steroid, and is a great anabolic on paper and according to other people. I however get nothing from it. As for 19nors I look to tren, but that’s more rare these days. I would say you’d be ok pinning npp 3x a week, to answer your question.

Primo is a very underrated compound. You don’t really feel like you’re on something per se, but you definitely feel the nitrogen retention. It’s nice in that you can run (in my case) like 600mg test a week with 400 mg primo, for a lengthy duration accruing great, keepable tissue while looking great, feeling great and not fucking yourself up too bad. AND not need an AI which is great.

Experiment with stuff though. Learn what works for you with minimal impact on your health.