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Cycle over 40 (about to turn 43)

TXJack9

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Hello!

First time to post on this forum - I have been following it since I joined. I think I already found two suppliers on here, hopefully they are legit. A little about myself, seeking cycle advice for someone over 40 (I turn 43 in March).

About me:
I have been lifting and training since I was a boy. My father was a competitive bodybuilder in the golden era, and instilled a lifelong love of lifting to me. Literally. He never used any gear in his lifetime, though back then little was known about it and it was kinda on the same part as hard drugs. Really in his mind until probably the mid-90's.

I am about 6 feet 1, and I weight approx 205-210. I have always lifted, and until about when I turned 42, my metabolism was shockingly high. When I played football when I was young, I used to eat maybe 3-4x a day straight tuna fish mixed with macaroni. My diet didn't change much until maybe 40. I had to consume all the calories I could to maintain muscle, and really a ton of cardio even if I was eating a ton of calories to build mass - would be counterproductive. I would go into catabolic states if I did too much cardio, negating all of my hard workouts and gains.

I did a few cycles in my 20's (early 20's - last one maybe 2005 or so). I had been all natural before then, and even though my dad was against gear (and I never told him) - my first cycle I always wanted to do at least one to see how good of condition and how much muscle and mass I could build. I was shocked at the result. My first foray into researching gear was one of my close high school friends played in the MLB during the steroid era (and he used in college) - and when I would see him, he and his buddies would openly talk about their cycles, stacks, etc. He kinda introduced me eons ago to suppliers, then I did a ton of research (I am a lawyer and analytical by nature) - and actually helped him plan out his cycles. Before that, he would just guestimate how much deca to use, winstrol was big for him bc he played center field - and he put almost zero thought into it. I am the exact opposite.

I was young and dumb then - and never fully planned and finished my PCT. I also developed a benign mass in my chest, had it removed - and probably not related to gyno or high estrogen (this was years after my first cycle) - but I was worried I didn't use arimidex or some type of anti-aromatization to prevent. I was much younger and dumber then.

Starting in 2018 or so - I started using and researching SARMS. My first SARMS cycle I was shocked by how well they worked. It was "almost" as good as using real gear. It seems people are mixed if they are better or worse than using actual gear.

I still cycle sarms, and so my goal is to blast a few cycles with gear while I still can and physcially able to lift hard, and get in still pretty good shape. And then do a proper PCT - and maybe cruise with SARMS. I haven't been to a low-T clinic, but when I get bloodwork done, even though I haven't used gear in years, and for a few years didn't use sarms (covid, I also had gallbladder problems, etc.) - doctors thought I was lying when I said I wasn't actively using steroids. For my age, or really age, my test levels are still really high. So I don't think I could get a script from a low-T clinic for test cyp.

That being said, again - again, I am 6 feet 1, about 205-210 or so - and still have great muscle tone, size, and strength. I don't have much fat anywhere on my body save my stomach. I don't have any fat on my legs, butt, back, shoulders, traps, or arms. Also - when I was younger, I used to have amazing vascularity - even when bulking. I am not as bothered by this, but it is harder to have as much vascularity, with veins popping out everywhere, regardless of what I use or train. For cutting, I want to reduce my stomach fat (it's not terrible, I just have always had a tight stomach and a tight 6-pack).

Sorry for the long post.

I won't go into my SARMS stack - but wanted to see if the stack below is appropriate. Again, it has been years since my first cycle with gear - and trying to catch up. Back then - I did the same stack. I did test-E, deca, and d-boll tabs. I used to love starting a cycle with dboll - even though it is mostly water weight, it was amazing to start a cycle with. I may have used winstrol for speed and sports, but do not think I did. I was young then, under 30 - metabolism was racism, vascularity was amazing, I just used gear then to build more mass it was hard for me to keep on and maintain.

All that being said, here is the stack I am thinking of (tenative):
- Test Cyp (500 per week)
- Sus (Not deca, afraid of gyno)
- Masteron-E (400mg/week)
- Primbolan-E (400mg/week)

Also thinking of adding:
- oral dboll tabs to start the cycle (any dosage advice would be appreciated)
- Clenbuteral (not tren) - if some thing would be helpful in cutting up, losing a bit of excess stomach fat, and getting my vascularity back or close to what is was when I was younger)
- Anavar (50mg/day) - I believe this is great for strength, but because I am looking to cut, thinking of adding.

I have plenty of PCT on hand, but am worried about gyno, high estrogen, so obvi arimidex.

Again, my goal this time is to lose weight, get vascular, still gain lean muscle, but I am plenty big and strong (and with this gear I still will increase both) - and so am looking for what will help to help me get in the best shape I can at my age.

Later - I want to incorporate HGH after this. I also don't fully understand the difference in the oils and regular injectables. In the past, there were only really injectables and oral tabs. I alway preferred injectables, with the exception of dball.

In summary, in good shape for my age (I think) - need to lose and trim up a bit, mainly around the waistline, I want to do a few more cycles the next few years and blast with the proper gear/cycle (and dosages), do a PCT, and cruise with SARMS. It only will be a matter of time before I can get test cyp from a clinic I am sure - I am worried about a test shutdown, but as I get older, I know to stay in shape, have energy, I have to do something more to maintain my levels at a healthy state.

Thanks for all who read what I know is a long post. I love training, nutrition, researching what to take and when - and have found this forum amazing. Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated. I sometimes tend to go overboard, so don't want my first cycle in many years to be too much on my body.

Thank you all again.
 

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I would say try

High test prop 500-600 mg weekly

Ment ace as an alternative to nandrolone or Deca or npp at 150 mg a week

Primo at 600-800 mg a week

Proviron 150 mg a day

Aromasin 12.5 mg eod

Anavar at 50-75 mg a day

Gh would definitely help u burn fat and heal

Tb 500 and bpc to protect your organs healing peptides

I would order from @viper-flex as they carry all of these items in great quality
 

Case-Akilleez

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Hello!

First time to post on this forum - I have been following it since I joined. I think I already found two suppliers on here, hopefully they are legit. A little about myself, seeking cycle advice for someone over 40 (I turn 43 in March).

About me:
I have been lifting and training since I was a boy. My father was a competitive bodybuilder in the golden era, and instilled a lifelong love of lifting to me. Literally. He never used any gear in his lifetime, though back then little was known about it and it was kinda on the same part as hard drugs. Really in his mind until probably the mid-90's.

I am about 6 feet 1, and I weight approx 205-210. I have always lifted, and until about when I turned 42, my metabolism was shockingly high. When I played football when I was young, I used to eat maybe 3-4x a day straight tuna fish mixed with macaroni. My diet didn't change much until maybe 40. I had to consume all the calories I could to maintain muscle, and really a ton of cardio even if I was eating a ton of calories to build mass - would be counterproductive. I would go into catabolic states if I did too much cardio, negating all of my hard workouts and gains.

I did a few cycles in my 20's (early 20's - last one maybe 2005 or so). I had been all natural before then, and even though my dad was against gear (and I never told him) - my first cycle I always wanted to do at least one to see how good of condition and how much muscle and mass I could build. I was shocked at the result. My first foray into researching gear was one of my close high school friends played in the MLB during the steroid era (and he used in college) - and when I would see him, he and his buddies would openly talk about their cycles, stacks, etc. He kinda introduced me eons ago to suppliers, then I did a ton of research (I am a lawyer and analytical by nature) - and actually helped him plan out his cycles. Before that, he would just guestimate how much deca to use, winstrol was big for him bc he played center field - and he put almost zero thought into it. I am the exact opposite.

I was young and dumb then - and never fully planned and finished my PCT. I also developed a benign mass in my chest, had it removed - and probably not related to gyno or high estrogen (this was years after my first cycle) - but I was worried I didn't use arimidex or some type of anti-aromatization to prevent. I was much younger and dumber then.

Starting in 2018 or so - I started using and researching SARMS. My first SARMS cycle I was shocked by how well they worked. It was "almost" as good as using real gear. It seems people are mixed if they are better or worse than using actual gear.

I still cycle sarms, and so my goal is to blast a few cycles with gear while I still can and physcially able to lift hard, and get in still pretty good shape. And then do a proper PCT - and maybe cruise with SARMS. I haven't been to a low-T clinic, but when I get bloodwork done, even though I haven't used gear in years, and for a few years didn't use sarms (covid, I also had gallbladder problems, etc.) - doctors thought I was lying when I said I wasn't actively using steroids. For my age, or really age, my test levels are still really high. So I don't think I could get a script from a low-T clinic for test cyp.

That being said, again - again, I am 6 feet 1, about 205-210 or so - and still have great muscle tone, size, and strength. I don't have much fat anywhere on my body save my stomach. I don't have any fat on my legs, butt, back, shoulders, traps, or arms. Also - when I was younger, I used to have amazing vascularity - even when bulking. I am not as bothered by this, but it is harder to have as much vascularity, with veins popping out everywhere, regardless of what I use or train. For cutting, I want to reduce my stomach fat (it's not terrible, I just have always had a tight stomach and a tight 6-pack).

Sorry for the long post.

I won't go into my SARMS stack - but wanted to see if the stack below is appropriate. Again, it has been years since my first cycle with gear - and trying to catch up. Back then - I did the same stack. I did test-E, deca, and d-boll tabs. I used to love starting a cycle with dboll - even though it is mostly water weight, it was amazing to start a cycle with. I may have used winstrol for speed and sports, but do not think I did. I was young then, under 30 - metabolism was racism, vascularity was amazing, I just used gear then to build more mass it was hard for me to keep on and maintain.

All that being said, here is the stack I am thinking of (tenative):
- Test Cyp (500 per week)
- Sus (Not deca, afraid of gyno)
- Masteron-E (400mg/week)
- Primbolan-E (400mg/week)

Also thinking of adding:
- oral dboll tabs to start the cycle (any dosage advice would be appreciated)
- Clenbuteral (not tren) - if some thing would be helpful in cutting up, losing a bit of excess stomach fat, and getting my vascularity back or close to what is was when I was younger)
- Anavar (50mg/day) - I believe this is great for strength, but because I am looking to cut, thinking of adding.

I have plenty of PCT on hand, but am worried about gyno, high estrogen, so obvi arimidex.

Again, my goal this time is to lose weight, get vascular, still gain lean muscle, but I am plenty big and strong (and with this gear I still will increase both) - and so am looking for what will help to help me get in the best shape I can at my age.

Later - I want to incorporate HGH after this. I also don't fully understand the difference in the oils and regular injectables. In the past, there were only really injectables and oral tabs. I alway preferred injectables, with the exception of dball.

In summary, in good shape for my age (I think) - need to lose and trim up a bit, mainly around the waistline, I want to do a few more cycles the next few years and blast with the proper gear/cycle (and dosages), do a PCT, and cruise with SARMS. It only will be a matter of time before I can get test cyp from a clinic I am sure - I am worried about a test shutdown, but as I get older, I know to stay in shape, have energy, I have to do something more to maintain my levels at a healthy state.

Thanks for all who read what I know is a long post. I love training, nutrition, researching what to take and when - and have found this forum amazing. Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated. I sometimes tend to go overboard, so don't want my first cycle in many years to be too much on my body.

Thank you all again.


Hi friend, welcome. First things first, you've ended up in a really good place. All the sources here are legit, not just anyone can source here. I've been here many, many of years, as well as being a part of the moderator team for a few years, so I can tell you firsthand that there is a strict vetting process that occurs before a source can begin business here. Shit does hit the fan from time to time, by nature of the business. Everyone will have their favorites, myself included. There isn't a source anywhere that is perfect, but there are several here that are pretty damn close. I'd just read up, make an educated decision and go from there. Sounds like you've already begun that process.

Anyway, on to everything else. So, I can relate to much of what you've said, as we're the exact same age, same height, but I've got a few pounds on you. Although I didn't seriously start getting into lifting until 25 and didn't get into anabolics until around 30. So let's take your proposed blast, there's a bit of detail missing, but here goes- Comments in RED

"All that being said, here is the stack I am thinking of (tenative):
- Test Cyp (500 per week) Nothing wrong with this, it's a solid base to work from.
- Sus (Not deca, afraid of gyno) What's going on here? This doesn't make any sense. I'm assuming you're meaning sustanon, which is a multi-estered testosterone. I'm not seeing a dosage here. You seem to be comparing it to deca, which is apples to oranges. Maybe I'm interpreting this incorrectly.
- Masteron-E (400mg/week) Nothing wrong with this really, have you used this before? Sorry if I missed that.
- Primbolan-E (400mg/week) This is overkill in my opinion. Much like your cyp/sus combo, there is too much overlap here to justify. I'd choose one or the other (either mast or primo. They are both DHTs.)

Also thinking of adding:
- oral dboll tabs to start the cycle (any dosage advice would be appreciated) You could. I think many would say this is an antiquated process, but I'm not totally against it. For what it's worth, I personally love dbol, and I almost always have some on hand. What dosage/duration were you proposing?
- Clenbuteral (not tren) - if some thing would be helpful in cutting up, losing a bit of excess stomach fat, and getting my vascularity back or close to what is was when I was younger) This as well has probably fallen out of favor with most because of the long term health implications, I'm kind of indifferent to the idea, I think it really comes down to risk tolerance, as well as whatever dosage/duration you're suggesting. I think many would suggest to roll with a simple EC stack, and I don't totally disagree with that. Do what you want here, but I'd skip it for now. If you're looking to cut down, I'd do it either before or after your blast.
- Anavar (50mg/day) - I believe this is great for strength, but because I am looking to cut, thinking of adding. Not a bad choice. I'm not sure how long you're looking at using it, but in between this and the dianabol, it could be a bit much exposure-wise to orals than you'd want. Again, like the others, I'd just choose one or the other.

I have plenty of PCT on hand, but am worried about gyno, high estrogen, so obvi arimidex." This is good, always a good idea to have what you might possibly need on hand. If you're concerned about gyno, it may be a good idea to have nolvadex and/or ralox on hand. As far as PCT, adex, etc, I'll expand on that in a minute.


So in your last paragraph you mentioned, "I sometimes tend to go overboard, so don't want my first cycle in many years to be too much on my body." I think that's exactly where this is headed. With all due respect, this is needlessly complicated. Just to reiterate/expand on some of the above, the cyp/sus combo makes no sense. They're both testosterone. You didn't have a dosage for the sustanon, but let's say you were going to have it line with the others, around 400-500mg. You're looking at around 1 gram of testosterone. You may as well just run a gram of cypionate. There are no clear advantages to combining the two, but you very well may be exposing yourself to some very clear disadvantages.

Same goes with the mast/primo. I think either/or is fine, but together is overkill. They are different compounds of course, but they're fairly similar in their results. Either one will likely lower your estro (mast really just inhibiting it), and in addition to adex, I'd be weary of bottoming out your estrogen. You weren't clear if you were using adex on blast or just during your PCT phase.

Anyway, this is what I'd propose. I'm thinking of this of how I'd recommend to you as if you were a friend of mine in real life, which I've done countless times in the past for people I know.

16 weeks total. No need to go balls deep on your first blast back. I'd simply run test cypionate @ 500-700 mgs, either primo E or mast E @ 400 mgs, all for the duration of the 16 weeks. If you're dead-set on orals, I'd say weeks 1-4, dbol @ 25-50mgs. Anavar weeks 13-16 @ 25-50mgs. Simple, easy, effective, and it cuts your proposed usage roughly in half. If you're training, eating, and resting efficiently, that's going to be more than enough. No need to go to 2 grams+ at your weight. On subsequent blasts? Maybe. Leave yourself some room for upward mobility in the future. If you jump right in at 2 grams, what's next? 3 grams? I'm not trying to ruin all the fun, just want you to consider the long term. I'm certainly not one for gatekeeping, I hope it doesn't come off that way.

You mentioned doing a few blasts, and you also mentioned PCT. I have never PCT'd, so I don't have much insight there. I would say it would be better to cruise in between blasts rather that running PCT every time you're through with a blast. That's just my personal opinion, and blast and cruise vs PCT is a pretty personal choice so I'll leave that up to you.

As far as cutting some bodyweight, I'd do that either before of after your blast while you're on cruise (or both). Make the most of the compounds you're using and build some lean body tissue. It sounds like you're trying to do too much at once. You can get to where you want to go, just give yourself time to do it.

A few other points of consideration/questions:

-I don't know much about sarms, so I don't have much to say there.
-Have you thought about controlling blood pressure on blast if problems arise? I admittedly ignored mine early on, and paid the price for it. I've since learned from my mistakes. It's not something to take lightly, especially at our age.
-You mentioned HGH. In between that and AAS, that makes me a little uneasy considering your history with having a mass extracted from your chest. HGH can make existing tumors grow from my understanding. With that being said, I'm not going to act like I know a ton on that subject, because I don't. I would just proceed with caution, and do some research so you know that you fully understand what you're signing up for.
-This quote from your post doesn't compute in my brain. What are you saying here? "I want to incorporate HGH after this. I also don't fully understand the difference in the oils and regular injectables. In the past, there were only really injectables and oral tabs. I alway preferred injectables, with the exception of dball." There are still only injectables and orals, unless you count topical creams, I guess. To my knowledge at least.
-Don't ever say "dball" again, because I will laugh at you. It's dianabol or dbol. You didn't say it, but the same goes for winstrol or winny. If you say "whinny", I might rage.

That's really it man, I guess. Good luck. Let me know if you have any questions or just want to conversate about it, I could do this all day.
 

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Hi friend, welcome. First things first, you've ended up in a really good place. All the sources here are legit, not just anyone can source here. I've been here many, many of years, as well as being a part of the moderator team for a few years, so I can tell you firsthand that there is a strict vetting process that occurs before a source can begin business here. Shit does hit the fan from time to time, by nature of the business. Everyone will have their favorites, myself included. There isn't a source anywhere that is perfect, but there are several here that are pretty damn close. I'd just read up, make an educated decision and go from there. Sounds like you've already begun that process.

Anyway, on to everything else. So, I can relate to much of what you've said, as we're the exact same age, same height, but I've got a few pounds on you. Although I didn't seriously start getting into lifting until 25 and didn't get into anabolics until around 30. So let's take your proposed blast, there's a bit of detail missing, but here goes- Comments in RED

"All that being said, here is the stack I am thinking of (tenative):
- Test Cyp (500 per week) Nothing wrong with this, it's a solid base to work from.
- Sus (Not deca, afraid of gyno) What's going on here? This doesn't make any sense. I'm assuming you're meaning sustanon, which is a multi-estered testosterone. I'm not seeing a dosage here. You seem to be comparing it to deca, which is apples to oranges. Maybe I'm interpreting this incorrectly.
- Masteron-E (400mg/week) Nothing wrong with this really, have you used this before? Sorry if I missed that.
- Primbolan-E (400mg/week) This is overkill in my opinion. Much like your cyp/sus combo, there is too much overlap here to justify. I'd choose one or the other (either mast or primo. They are both DHTs.)

Also thinking of adding:
- oral dboll tabs to start the cycle (any dosage advice would be appreciated) You could. I think many would say this is an antiquated process, but I'm not totally against it. For what it's worth, I personally love dbol, and I almost always have some on hand. What dosage/duration were you proposing?
- Clenbuteral (not tren) - if some thing would be helpful in cutting up, losing a bit of excess stomach fat, and getting my vascularity back or close to what is was when I was younger) This as well has probably fallen out of favor with most because of the long term health implications, I'm kind of indifferent to the idea, I think it really comes down to risk tolerance, as well as whatever dosage/duration you're suggesting. I think many would suggest to roll with a simple EC stack, and I don't totally disagree with that. Do what you want here, but I'd skip it for now. If you're looking to cut down, I'd do it either before or after your blast.
- Anavar (50mg/day) - I believe this is great for strength, but because I am looking to cut, thinking of adding. Not a bad choice. I'm not sure how long you're looking at using it, but in between this and the dianabol, it could be a bit much exposure-wise to orals than you'd want. Again, like the others, I'd just choose one or the other.

I have plenty of PCT on hand, but am worried about gyno, high estrogen, so obvi arimidex." This is good, always a good idea to have what you might possibly need on hand. If you're concerned about gyno, it may be a good idea to have nolvadex and/or ralox on hand. As far as PCT, adex, etc, I'll expand on that in a minute.


So in your last paragraph you mentioned, "I sometimes tend to go overboard, so don't want my first cycle in many years to be too much on my body." I think that's exactly where this is headed. With all due respect, this is needlessly complicated. Just to reiterate/expand on some of the above, the cyp/sus combo makes no sense. They're both testosterone. You didn't have a dosage for the sustanon, but let's say you were going to have it line with the others, around 400-500mg. You're looking at around 1 gram of testosterone. You may as well just run a gram of cypionate. There are no clear advantages to combining the two, but you very well may be exposing yourself to some very clear disadvantages.

Same goes with the mast/primo. I think either/or is fine, but together is overkill. They are different compounds of course, but they're fairly similar in their results. Either one will likely lower your estro (mast really just inhibiting it), and in addition to adex, I'd be weary of bottoming out your estrogen. You weren't clear if you were using adex on blast or just during your PCT phase.

Anyway, this is what I'd propose. I'm thinking of this of how I'd recommend to you as if you were a friend of mine in real life, which I've done countless times in the past for people I know.

16 weeks total. No need to go balls deep on your first blast back. I'd simply run test cypionate @ 500-700 mgs, either primo E or mast E @ 400 mgs, all for the duration of the 16 weeks. If you're dead-set on orals, I'd say weeks 1-4, dbol @ 25-50mgs. Anavar weeks 13-16 @ 25-50mgs. Simple, easy, effective, and it cuts your proposed usage roughly in half. If you're training, eating, and resting efficiently, that's going to be more than enough. No need to go to 2 grams+ at your weight. On subsequent blasts? Maybe. Leave yourself some room for upward mobility in the future. If you jump right in at 2 grams, what's next? 3 grams? I'm not trying to ruin all the fun, just want you to consider the long term. I'm certainly not one for gatekeeping, I hope it doesn't come off that way.

You mentioned doing a few blasts, and you also mentioned PCT. I have never PCT'd, so I don't have much insight there. I would say it would be better to cruise in between blasts rather that running PCT every time you're through with a blast. That's just my personal opinion, and blast and cruise vs PCT is a pretty personal choice so I'll leave that up to you.

As far as cutting some bodyweight, I'd do that either before of after your blast while you're on cruise (or both). Make the most of the compounds you're using and build some lean body tissue. It sounds like you're trying to do too much at once. You can get to where you want to go, just give yourself time to do it.

A few other points of consideration/questions:

-I don't know much about sarms, so I don't have much to say there.
-Have you thought about controlling blood pressure on blast if problems arise? I admittedly ignored mine early on, and paid the price for it. I've since learned from my mistakes. It's not something to take lightly, especially at our age.
-You mentioned HGH. In between that and AAS, that makes me a little uneasy considering your history with having a mass extracted from your chest. HGH can make existing tumors grow from my understanding. With that being said, I'm not going to act like I know a ton on that subject, because I don't. I would just proceed with caution, and do some research so you know that you fully understand what you're signing up for.
-This quote from your post doesn't compute in my brain. What are you saying here? "I want to incorporate HGH after this. I also don't fully understand the difference in the oils and regular injectables. In the past, there were only really injectables and oral tabs. I alway preferred injectables, with the exception of dball." There are still only injectables and orals, unless you count topical creams, I guess. To my knowledge at least.
-Don't ever say "dball" again, because I will laugh at you. It's dianabol or dbol. You didn't say it, but the same goes for winstrol or winny. If you say "whinny", I might rage.

That's really it man, I guess. Good luck. Let me know if you have any questions or just want to conversate about it, I could do this all day.
Wow - I just saw this. This is the best post yet. THANK YOU.

Here is the cycle I have planned:

Is this cycle okay? I only want to incorporate HGH because I read how the other compounds can effect sleep. But also don't want to look like a caveman and get Palumboism

Cycle planned:

Cycle 1 (same compounds):

Test Cyp: 400-500mg/per week 12 weeks (get 15 week supply)

Anavar: 50mg/per day (12-14 week supply)

Primobolan: 400-600mg per week/ (12-14 week supply)

Masteron: 300mg and 500mg per week (10-12 week suppy)

Hgh: 3iu and 4iu daily (16 week supply)



Cycle 2 (same compounds):
1-4

Test 500mg

Hgh 2iu

5-8

Test 500

Primo 400

Hgh 3iu

9-12

Test 500

Primo 400

Mast 400

Hgh 4iu

13-16

Test 500

Primo 400

Mast 400

Anavar 100mg

Hgh 5iu
 

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Hi friend, welcome. First things first, you've ended up in a really good place. All the sources here are legit, not just anyone can source here. I've been here many, many of years, as well as being a part of the moderator team for a few years, so I can tell you firsthand that there is a strict vetting process that occurs before a source can begin business here. Shit does hit the fan from time to time, by nature of the business. Everyone will have their favorites, myself included. There isn't a source anywhere that is perfect, but there are several here that are pretty damn close. I'd just read up, make an educated decision and go from there. Sounds like you've already begun that process.

Anyway, on to everything else. So, I can relate to much of what you've said, as we're the exact same age, same height, but I've got a few pounds on you. Although I didn't seriously start getting into lifting until 25 and didn't get into anabolics until around 30. So let's take your proposed blast, there's a bit of detail missing, but here goes- Comments in RED

"All that being said, here is the stack I am thinking of (tenative):
- Test Cyp (500 per week) Nothing wrong with this, it's a solid base to work from.
- Sus (Not deca, afraid of gyno) What's going on here? This doesn't make any sense. I'm assuming you're meaning sustanon, which is a multi-estered testosterone. I'm not seeing a dosage here. You seem to be comparing it to deca, which is apples to oranges. Maybe I'm interpreting this incorrectly.
- Masteron-E (400mg/week) Nothing wrong with this really, have you used this before? Sorry if I missed that.
- Primbolan-E (400mg/week) This is overkill in my opinion. Much like your cyp/sus combo, there is too much overlap here to justify. I'd choose one or the other (either mast or primo. They are both DHTs.)

Also thinking of adding:
- oral dboll tabs to start the cycle (any dosage advice would be appreciated) You could. I think many would say this is an antiquated process, but I'm not totally against it. For what it's worth, I personally love dbol, and I almost always have some on hand. What dosage/duration were you proposing?
- Clenbuteral (not tren) - if some thing would be helpful in cutting up, losing a bit of excess stomach fat, and getting my vascularity back or close to what is was when I was younger) This as well has probably fallen out of favor with most because of the long term health implications, I'm kind of indifferent to the idea, I think it really comes down to risk tolerance, as well as whatever dosage/duration you're suggesting. I think many would suggest to roll with a simple EC stack, and I don't totally disagree with that. Do what you want here, but I'd skip it for now. If you're looking to cut down, I'd do it either before or after your blast.
- Anavar (50mg/day) - I believe this is great for strength, but because I am looking to cut, thinking of adding. Not a bad choice. I'm not sure how long you're looking at using it, but in between this and the dianabol, it could be a bit much exposure-wise to orals than you'd want. Again, like the others, I'd just choose one or the other.

I have plenty of PCT on hand, but am worried about gyno, high estrogen, so obvi arimidex." This is good, always a good idea to have what you might possibly need on hand. If you're concerned about gyno, it may be a good idea to have nolvadex and/or ralox on hand. As far as PCT, adex, etc, I'll expand on that in a minute.


So in your last paragraph you mentioned, "I sometimes tend to go overboard, so don't want my first cycle in many years to be too much on my body." I think that's exactly where this is headed. With all due respect, this is needlessly complicated. Just to reiterate/expand on some of the above, the cyp/sus combo makes no sense. They're both testosterone. You didn't have a dosage for the sustanon, but let's say you were going to have it line with the others, around 400-500mg. You're looking at around 1 gram of testosterone. You may as well just run a gram of cypionate. There are no clear advantages to combining the two, but you very well may be exposing yourself to some very clear disadvantages.

Same goes with the mast/primo. I think either/or is fine, but together is overkill. They are different compounds of course, but they're fairly similar in their results. Either one will likely lower your estro (mast really just inhibiting it), and in addition to adex, I'd be weary of bottoming out your estrogen. You weren't clear if you were using adex on blast or just during your PCT phase.

Anyway, this is what I'd propose. I'm thinking of this of how I'd recommend to you as if you were a friend of mine in real life, which I've done countless times in the past for people I know.

16 weeks total. No need to go balls deep on your first blast back. I'd simply run test cypionate @ 500-700 mgs, either primo E or mast E @ 400 mgs, all for the duration of the 16 weeks. If you're dead-set on orals, I'd say weeks 1-4, dbol @ 25-50mgs. Anavar weeks 13-16 @ 25-50mgs. Simple, easy, effective, and it cuts your proposed usage roughly in half. If you're training, eating, and resting efficiently, that's going to be more than enough. No need to go to 2 grams+ at your weight. On subsequent blasts? Maybe. Leave yourself some room for upward mobility in the future. If you jump right in at 2 grams, what's next? 3 grams? I'm not trying to ruin all the fun, just want you to consider the long term. I'm certainly not one for gatekeeping, I hope it doesn't come off that way.

You mentioned doing a few blasts, and you also mentioned PCT. I have never PCT'd, so I don't have much insight there. I would say it would be better to cruise in between blasts rather that running PCT every time you're through with a blast. That's just my personal opinion, and blast and cruise vs PCT is a pretty personal choice so I'll leave that up to you.

As far as cutting some bodyweight, I'd do that either before of after your blast while you're on cruise (or both). Make the most of the compounds you're using and build some lean body tissue. It sounds like you're trying to do too much at once. You can get to where you want to go, just give yourself time to do it.

A few other points of consideration/questions:

-I don't know much about sarms, so I don't have much to say there.
-Have you thought about controlling blood pressure on blast if problems arise? I admittedly ignored mine early on, and paid the price for it. I've since learned from my mistakes. It's not something to take lightly, especially at our age.
-You mentioned HGH. In between that and AAS, that makes me a little uneasy considering your history with having a mass extracted from your chest. HGH can make existing tumors grow from my understanding. With that being said, I'm not going to act like I know a ton on that subject, because I don't. I would just proceed with caution, and do some research so you know that you fully understand what you're signing up for.
-This quote from your post doesn't compute in my brain. What are you saying here? "I want to incorporate HGH after this. I also don't fully understand the difference in the oils and regular injectables. In the past, there were only really injectables and oral tabs. I alway preferred injectables, with the exception of dball." There are still only injectables and orals, unless you count topical creams, I guess. To my knowledge at least.
-Don't ever say "dball" again, because I will laugh at you. It's dianabol or dbol. You didn't say it, but the same goes for winstrol or winny. If you say "whinny", I might rage.

That's really it man, I guess. Good luck. Let me know if you have any questions or just want to conversate about it, I could do this all day.
I really appreciate this, sorry I tend to type fast with the misnomers. Is there a way to DM on here? Or no? Gonna read this entire post and make sure the cycle below is right. I think many posters on here believe I am an old man, fat, out of shape, or not familiar with gear, substances, the study of the body, diet, training, etc. I am very well-versed - like Clarence Bass, who also was an attorney and planned everything he did in meticulous detail. I am and have always done the same.
 
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