Dating

[espressofan]

Is it just me or is dating far more difficult these days? As I’ve gotten older, ive gotten over the entire casual thing. But finding good dateable people seems impossible. Maybe the deca has me in my feelings ?

 

[newvenice]

No everyone I talk to is struggling. Even with all these new dating apps and shit. I think its birth control fucking up with most womens heads, also all the things in our environment that fuck with our hormones. It seems like girls expect James Bond and nothing less these days because of instagram.

 

[yelruP]

It’s really hard to find a suitable girl when you start to get older. My best friend is a pretty good looking guy, not short (5’11”ish), makes a lot of money, and has a big following for the brand he runs. But he struggles to find girls to date. Doesn’t have problems hooking up with random girls, but finding a girl to wife seems near impossible especially the last few years. Seems like hookup culture and unreasonable standards have ruined dating for our generation.

 

[newvenice]

yelruP" pid='41290' dateline='1549984777:

It’s really hard to find a suitable girl when you start to get older. My best friend is a pretty good looking guy, not short (5’11”ish), makes a lot of money, and has a big following for the brand he runs. But he struggles to find girls to date. Doesn’t have problems hooking up with random girls, but finding a girl to wife seems near impossible especially the last few years. Seems like hookup culture and unreasonable standards have ruined dating for our generation.

Is that big lenny as your default?

 

[appropionate]

for both genders, the good/valuable ones are off the market at an earlier age, the leftovers (let’s say >25 years old) have some kind of critical flaw, whether its (trust) issues from previous failed relationships or natural/nurtured (this includes the whole hookup culture shit and the expectations and mentality it fosters) mental fuckups.

even if you consider any/all religions bullshit, many religious value systems produce better wife material than the materialism people choose as their new god. hunt for prime wife age (18-23) in your chosen traditional/religious hunting ground rather than the city/online if you want a stable and calm family life and old age.

 

[goodstufftakestime]

My spouse is my best friend, best lover I ever had and soulmate (didn’t believe that crap until I met her, but we can read each other like a book). We didn’t meet until we were both in our 30s. She was previously married for some years and it took a while for her to realize what she really wanted in a relationship and it wasn’t that. We met through a dating app, so yeah, it’s still possible to find someone serious, but you have to be patient, honest and persistent. I went on many dead end dates that were going to be hookups or unrealistic expectations before I met her.

 

[Tony_Parks]

As I’ve gotten older, I’ve found women to be much more forward than they were when I was young. Then, they would be more subtle and wait for you to make a move, although they would give off signs that they were interested. Now, I have random women messaging me daily on FB. It’s nuts. And no, these aren’t fake accounts or scammers. Expressofan, if you are older and have your act together, I am almost certain there are good women interested in dating you. I just advise keeping your eyes open to spotting signs that they are interested. Some older women are still a little hesitant about approaching a man outright, but will give indications that they are attracted to you. There may well be women who have done this and you just haven’t picked up on it. Conducting yourself like a traditional gentleman and not giving off an impression that you are merely looking for a hook up will go a long way. Many women eat that up. I don’t have personal experience with dating apps, but it’s worth a shot. Worst that happens is you don’t meet anyone you like and lose money on the fee.

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yelruP" pid='41290' dateline='1549984777:

It’s really hard to find a suitable girl when you start to get older. My best friend is a pretty good looking guy, not short (5’11”ish), makes a lot of money, and has a big following for the brand he runs. But he struggles to find girls to date. Doesn’t have problems hooking up with random girls, but finding a girl to wife seems near impossible especially the last few years. Seems like hookup culture and unreasonable standards have ruined dating for our generation.

How old is he? I’d say the majority I meet would love to get married. It could be that he’s in a large metro area and focusing on girls in their early to mid 20s. The ones that age are more prone to hookups though it isn’t rare to find ones who want to date someone exclusively.

 

[yelruP]

Tony Parks" pid='41357' dateline='1550014975:

As I’ve gotten older, I’ve found women to be much more forward than they were when I was young. Then, they would be more subtle and wait for you to make a move, although they would give off signs that they were interested. Now, I have random women messaging me daily on FB. It’s nuts. And no, these aren’t fake accounts or scammers. Expressofan, if you are older and have your act together, I am almost certain there are good women interested in dating you. I just advise keeping your eyes open to spotting signs that they are interested. Some older women are still a little hesitant about approaching a man outright, but will give indications that they are attracted to you. There may well be women who have done this and you just haven’t picked up on it. Conducting yourself like a traditional gentleman and not giving off an impression that you are merely looking for a hook up will go a long way. Many women eat that up. I don’t have personal experience with dating apps, but it’s worth a shot. Worst that happens is you don’t meet anyone you like and lose money on the fee.

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yelruP" pid='41290' dateline='1549984777:

It’s really hard to find a suitable girl when you start to get older. My best friend is a pretty good looking guy, not short (5’11”ish), makes a lot of money, and has a big following for the brand he runs. But he struggles to find girls to date. Doesn’t have problems hooking up with random girls, but finding a girl to wife seems near impossible especially the last few years. Seems like hookup culture and unreasonable standards have ruined dating for our generation.

How old is he? I’d say the majority I meet would love to get married. It could be that he’s in a large metro area and focusing on girls in their early to mid 20s. The ones that age are more prone to hookups though it isn’t rare to find ones who want to date someone exclusively.

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Around 30. Won’t say exactly but right around there. 95% of girls he talks to are 21-26, though. He does live in one of the biggest cities in the USA (I recently relocated) and I also had trouble finding a girl that was worthy of dating without her being a headcase or not very attractive.

 

[Primobro]

I have many friends in their early 30s having a very hard time, I think @“appropionate” is correct with his theory and I also feel Instagram and all these dating/hookup apps I can only imagine make finding the “next best thing” much easier or at least makes it seem so

 

[appropionate]

Primobro" pid='41379' dateline='1550026174:

I have many friends in their early 30s having a very hard time, I think @“appropionate” is correct with his theory and I also feel Instagram and all these dating/hookup apps I can only imagine make finding the “next best thing” much easier or at least makes it seem so

there’s a girl I know that has hair down to her butt and works as a goldsmith. women working a solid trade like that and don’t look like a dyke stand out more than any insta thot to me nowadays. my own gf works in a family owned animal care home in some mountain village you’re stuck in whenever the weather gets too bad. I’m so fucking lucky I realized what I had after throwing that relationship away for sluts like twice.

 

[DNPstoney]

Not to say every woman is like this, but in general, hook up culture, combined with our later and later transition into true adulthood, make it very hard to date long-term in your 20s. Since we place so much value on our careers now, lots of people are prioritizing their jobs and/or schooling over their love life. In addition, people are moving out of their parents house later and later, due mostly to increases in relative housing prices. Add to this the fact that most women are preached to “empower” themselves by running around hooking up with whoever they want, and you get here.

Dating gets significantly easier for people in their 30s, but you are also have a limited and worse pool to choose from. Most women in their 30s either: have a kid, are emotionally damaged from a past relationship, are emotionally damaged from constant hook-ups, are much less physically attractive, have some desperation due to their biological clock, or some other baggage.

These things make it very difficult for men to date people in their age group in their 20s.

 

[Hopeisfading]

Seems like so much has changed. You have women in their mid 30s with 2 or 3 kids that live at the bar 4 times a week. But then bitch that they can’t find a good man. It’s a joke.

 

[Primobro]

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Seems like so much has changed. You have women in their mid 30s with 2 or 3 kids that live at the bar 4 times a week. But then bitch that they can’t find a good man. It’s a joke.

Lol I used to always end up waking up next to those ones… thank god I don’t drink anymore

 

[Hopeisfading]

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Hopeisfading" pid='41410' dateline='1550038100:

Seems like so much has changed. You have women in their mid 30s with 2 or 3 kids that live at the bar 4 times a week. But then bitch that they can’t find a good man. It’s a joke.

Lol I used to always end up waking up next to those ones… thank god I don’t drink anymore

Same here man. Haven’t drank in many years. Used to drink a bottle of vodka a day. And I don’t mean the small one either. Was killing my gains. So stupid. I was drinking 2600 calories just in alcohol alone. And then of course I would eat like shit cause I was drunk. Taco Bell was the go to. I woke up one day and thought. What the fuck am I doing??? I stopped. Lost 37lbs and got abs with no change in working out or anything…alcohol is TERRIBLE. Ill still have a beer with dinner from time to time. But I don’t even remember the last time I got drunk. Such a life changer.

But yea women in their mid 30s now a days think they are 22 years old and party all the time. And then post on social media how they can’t find a good man. And how much of a good mother they are. Meanwhile they leave their kids home with a babysitter atleast 4 days a week to go to the bar. I’m so over dating. Luckily I found a girl that is over that part of her life and wants to just chill and hang out. Not a partier at all. Such a relief. She was my last chance basically. Before we started dating I was so sick of the bullshit women. I said to myself…this is it. If this one doesn’t work and is the same as the rest. I’m done. Just gonna be single and that’s it. I have no problem being alone. Lol. But she turned out to be a good one. Finally. And she is cool with my AAS usage. Does my shots for me. Lol. She’s a keeper.

 

[scrapiron]

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Primobro" pid='41444' dateline='1550088837:

Hopeisfading" pid='41410' dateline='1550038100:

Seems like so much has changed. You have women in their mid 30s with 2 or 3 kids that live at the bar 4 times a week. But then bitch that they can’t find a good man. It’s a joke.

Lol I used to always end up waking up next to those ones… thank god I don’t drink anymore

Same here man. Haven’t drank in many years. Used to drink a bottle of vodka a day. And I don’t mean the small one either. Was killing my gains. So stupid. I was drinking 2600 calories just in alcohol alone. And then of course I would eat like shit cause I was drunk. Taco Bell was the go to. I woke up one day and thought. What the fuck am I doing??? I stopped. Lost 37lbs and got abs with no change in working out or anything…alcohol is TERRIBLE. Ill still have a beer with dinner from time to time. But I don’t even remember the last time I got drunk. Such a life changer.

But yea women in their mid 30s now a days think they are 22 years old and party all the time. And then post on social media how they can’t find a good man. And how much of a good mother they are. Meanwhile they leave their kids home with a babysitter atleast 4 days a week to go to the bar. I’m so over dating. Luckily I found a girl that is over that part of her life and wants to just chill and hang out. Not a partier at all. Such a relief. She was my last chance basically. Before we started dating I was so sick of the bullshit women. I said to myself…this is it. If this one doesn’t work and is the same as the rest. I’m done. Just gonna be single and that’s it. I have no problem being alone. Lol. But she turned out to be a good one. Finally. And she is cool with my AAS usage. Does my shots for me. Lol. She’s a keeper.

Glad to hear it. But. I think. Use commas. Maybe? Hard to read. Lol.

 

[rawdogger]

Once women get into their 30s, at least one of the following is true: has one or more kids, has a failed relationship that she’s not over and (unfavorably) comparing you against, and/or has a biological clock that’s ticking so loud she want to move absurdly fast to her white picket fence phase, your wants and needs be damned.

The tragedy (or, really, stupidity) on their part is that they’re first entering the marriage market at the precise moment their market value is in its steepest decline. The dating pool expands for men as they get older, and all else being equal, the same woman was hotter/tighter/more fun five years ago than she is today. Why would I settle down with her when I can upgrade to the newer model? No one wants the iPhone 8 (ok, 8 Plus with all the obesity) when they can get the new one at the same price.

50 years ago, young women had older women (mothers, grandmothers, extended family) who explained these facts of life to them when the advice was early enough to be useful. “He’s a good man, with a good future, marry him and learn to love him” was a common thing back then. No one wants to acknowledge reality anymore because it’s politically incorrect. Well, in this case, nature is politically incorrect.

I’m in my early thirties and have found that dating women in the 22-26 range is pretty ideal. Old enough to get out of the retarded extended teenage phase, but young enough to be vibrant. And VERY importantly, young enough not to have a ton of baggage, unless they brought it with them from childhood or a shitty family situation. I’m not planning to get married until I want kids, but when I do, it will be to a younger woman.

I’ll probably get flamed for putting this out there, but seeking.com (sugar daddy website) is the absolute best platform I’ve found for that. Yeah, there’s some hookers on there, but I don’t find it too hard to screen them out. I’ve hooked up with a ton of college age girls and never paid a dime. Granted, I’m younger and hotter than 99% of the guys on there (and actually have the wealth I claim to have), so YMMV.

Good hunting.