Difference between pharma hgh and generic

[holdentudix]

Is there really a difference?

 

[2scoopzftw]

speaking from a purely pharmacological aspect here, the active ingredient should be the same.

But when it comes to gear, not sure what the difference would be. no experience but my guess would be that with generic you don't know what your getting. But again, if you are getting it from a pharmacy, theoretically the active biologic is the same.

Have you tried researching?

 

[Glock]

Is there really a difference?

The best way to answer that is to ask you this - Is there a difference between a Toyota Prius, and a Mercedes Benz?? They're both cars right?

Example - When you have some 12mg (36iu) Pfizer pens and you turn the dial to 1mg you know you're getting 3ius of actual GH. When you get a vial of whatever color top how many IUs are in that vial?? They might say they are 10iu vials, or maybe they're selling them as 12iu vials, or some claim they're even higher than that, so how do you know? You don't know. You add your Bac Water (most of the time 1cc) and you draw out your dose. 3ius, or 4, or 5, or whatever dose you are using, and then you hope for the best cuz if it's overdosed then you just took more, and if it's underdosed then you didn't get enough. So that's where the trust factor comes into play....Gotta trust your source. Is it Somatropin or is it another GHRP being sold as Somatropin? Once again you don't know it comes back to trusting your source. Do the homework first and check all of the reviews before choosing a source

 

[GBH526]

There may or may not be a difference. There are testing servers you can join if you are going to buy generic HGH. You can have it tested and see what the purity is and amount of dimer.

 

[Glock]

There may or may not be a difference. There are testing servers you can join if you are going to buy generic HGH. You can have it tested and see what the purity is and amount of dimer.

Sure as long as they are an accredited HPLC lab in accordance with ISO/IEC requirements and can produce a certificate then I'm all in...Otherwise?? Not so much

 

[Flex22]

Well speaking from personal experience with years of both pharma growth US Nutropin and Phizer Geno pens and then the great all consistently tested Opti, TP , QSC and more all showing near or the same or sometimes even higher purity than pharma this “bro science” “folklore” tale has been squashed for a while now. And to solidify testing all these places have also been third party blind tested as well and still show same great results. Is the purity with a very small % of pharma more consistent with a tad higher purity …sure. But it’s miniscule and this question will always be asked once in a blue moon from a newbie and you’ll always get the couple people who only praise pharma . That’s good your entitled to your opinion. But I can also tell you my oils come out always correctly dosed and no impurities either but you will never see me paying pharma prices for Var or US test when I get it for 1/4 the price and it’s smoother exact same Purity and actually properly priced and not big pharma rip off prices

 

[Glock]

Well speaking from personal experience with years of both pharma growth US Nutropin and Phizer Geno pens and then the great all consistently tested Opti, TP , QSC and more all showing near or the same or sometimes even higher purity than pharma this “bro science” “folklore” tale has been squashed for a while now. And to solidify testing all these places have also been third party blind tested as well and still show same great results. Is the purity with a very small % of pharma more consistent with a tad higher purity …sure. But it’s miniscule and this question will always be asked once in a blue moon from a newbie and you’ll always get the couple people who only praise pharma . That’s good your entitled to your opinion. But I can also tell you my oils come out always correctly dosed and no impurities either but you will never see me paying pharma prices for Var or US test when I get it for 1/4 the price and it’s smoother exact same Purity and actually properly priced and not big pharma rip off prices

You just answered the question and validated what I said so thank you. The question was is there a difference? The answer is YES there's a difference. Nobody said anything about there being anything wrong with Generic GH. I'm not one of those Pharm only people my friend I love me some QUALITY generic any day of the week. In fact I have several kits of Opti just waiting to be run, and I'm looking forward to seeing the results (in about 3-6 months of course). With that being said let me ask you this, and then I'm done talking about the "differences".......If Generic GH is on the same level playing field as Pharm Grade then why in the world do the top bodybuilders who compete for a living spend tens of thousands of dollars on their GH?? Why not just put an order in with any number of quality generic sellers, and load up, and save thousands and thousands of dollars?? The answer is simple, and you yourself already answered it - It's because there's a difference...End of Story

As far as testing gear goes I've got test results right here from my imaginary lab that say my Cottonseed oil is actually Test E dosed at 242mg per ML with zero impurities. It has a nice stamp on it too with a squiggly signature so looks all legit. We're Having a big buy 1 get 1 free sale this weekend too with free shipping so step right up.....My cheerleaders will be posting away talking about the great results they're seeing on my garbage, Oh I'm sorry I mean my stuff. Don't worry we're third party tested too.....See where I'm going here?? Give me a break on all of that we're tested stuff it's nauseating. The only testing I care about, and trust, comes from Bloodwork posted up by actual end users that have just spent their hard earned coin on their gear. I care about my fellow gym rat brothers and sisters who get scammed on a daily basis by these losers who are setting up shop, and then grabbing their cash, and closing down, and then reopening a few months later under a new name. They claim to the ends of the earth their stuff is third party tested blah blah blah....I'm not interested in the sales pitch, and I don't really give a crap if the vial has a cute label on it. As long as it has the appropriate amount of the correct gear that's dosed reasonably close, and I'm not hobbled, or worse, for two weeks after injecting then it's all good. When guys claim to be running 500mg of Test a week, and for the sake of argument they're in good health with no other issues, and their labs come back at 1,000 for total T then Houston we have a problem!! but we can't be having that problem cuz their stuff has been tested right? See where I'm going with that....No thanks keep your testing just give me what I paid for......NOT RIPPING YOU BRO JUST MAKING MY FEELINGS KNOWN ABOUT TESTING!!......Stay Safe

 

[holdentudix]

You just answered the question and validated what I said so thank you. The question was is there a difference? The answer is YES there's a difference. Nobody said anything about there being anything wrong with Generic GH. I'm not one of those Pharm only people my friend I love me some QUALITY generic any day of the week. In fact I have several kits of Opti just waiting to be run, and I'm looking forward to seeing the results (in about 3-6 months of course). With that being said let me ask you this, and then I'm done talking about the "differences".......If Generic GH is on the same level playing field as Pharm Grade then why in the world do the top bodybuilders who compete for a living spend tens of thousands of dollars on their GH?? Why not just put an order in with any number of quality generic sellers, and load up, and save thousands and thousands of dollars?? The answer is simple, and you yourself already answered it - It's because there's a difference...End of Story

As far as testing gear goes I've got test results right here from my imaginary lab that say my Cottonseed oil is actually Test E dosed at 242mg per ML with zero impurities. It has a nice stamp on it too with a squiggly signature so looks all legit. We're Having a big buy 1 get 1 free sale this weekend too with free shipping so step right up.....My cheerleaders will be posting away talking about the great results they're seeing on my garbage, Oh I'm sorry I mean my stuff. Don't worry we're third party tested too.....See where I'm going here?? Give me a break on all of that we're tested stuff it's nauseating. The only testing I care about, and trust, comes from Bloodwork posted up by actual end users that have just spent their hard earned coin on their gear. I care about my fellow gym rat brothers and sisters who get scammed on a daily basis by these losers who are setting up shop, and then grabbing their cash, and closing down, and then reopening a few months later under a new name. They claim to the ends of the earth their stuff is third party tested blah blah blah....I'm not interested in the sales pitch, and I don't really give a crap if the vial has a cute label on it. As long as it has the appropriate amount of the correct gear that's dosed reasonably close, and I'm not hobbled, or worse, for two weeks after injecting then it's all good. When guys claim to be running 500mg of Test a week, and for the sake of argument they're in good health with no other issues, and their labs come back at 1,000 for total T then Houston we have a problem!! but we can't be having that problem cuz their stuff has been tested right? See where I'm going with that....No thanks keep your testing just give me what I paid for......NOT RIPPING YOU BRO JUST MAKING MY FEELINGS KNOWN ABOUT TESTING!!......Stay Safe

Tldr. Were asking what the difference is between the two. Labtests done on pharm grade show <100% potency and dimer just like generics can. So what's the difference?

 

[crtx]

gym rats like us will not know or feel the differences betwen generic and pharma only the wallet damage.

and the pro's? most get it for free if they are in the top so what would you run? free pharma or free generics?

If people claim they dont hold water on geno pens for eg its because to small amout of direutic they put inside that keeps them "dry" what's gonna happen when generics do the same? i can't re-call the compound here inside geno.

 

[holdentudix]

Yu

gym rats like us will not know or feel the differences betwen generic and pharma only the wallet damage.

and the pro's? most get it for free if they are in the top so what would you run? free pharma or free generics?

If people claim they dont hold water on geno pens for eg its because to small amout of direutic they put inside that keeps them "dry" what's gonna happen when generics do the same? i can't re-call the compound here inside geno.

Yup there's never an actual argument for pharm grade, it's always guys talking about muh pro body builders or they pick on you for being too poor. It's only ever guys dick riding pharm grade hgh too, anything anabolic ugl never gets mentioned as being inferior.

 

[Glock]

gym rats like us will not know or feel the differences betwen generic and pharma only the wallet damage.

and the pro's? most get it for free if they are in the top so what would you run? free pharma or free generics?

If people claim they dont hold water on geno pens for eg its because to small amout of direutic they put inside that keeps them "dry" what's gonna happen when generics do the same? i can't re-call the compound here inside geno.

 

[holdentudix]

No one bought the rant so just post a meme dog

 

[Glock]

No one bought the rant so just post a meme dog

First before I tell you how I feel about your statements let me make it very clear so you don't get it all twisted. I happen to believe in Generic GH I already mentioned that, and I'm currently running some right now, but you are A CLOWN if you honestly believe that Generic GH and Pharm Grade are equal.

The ignorance on display here is laughable, and it's always the guys with ZERO real world experience who love to parrot whatever nonsense they bought into. I could go on and on and pick out the flaws in both of you guys comments, like the pros get their GH for free for starters , but what's the point, because you can't win when the other guy lives in fantasy land. Keep on trucking bro, and when you're ordering your Big Mac meal today get an extra order of large fries with it, because I read that fries raise IGF levels.

 

[holdentudix]

First before I tell you how I feel about your statements let me make it very clear so you don't get it all twisted. I happen to believe in Generic GH I already mentioned that, and I'm currently running some right now, but you are A CLOWN if you honestly believe that Generic GH and Pharm Grade are equal.

The ignorance on display here is laughable, and it's always the guys with ZERO real world experience who love to parrot whatever nonsense they bought into. I could go on and on and pick out the flaws in both of you guys comments, like the pros get their GH for free for starters , but what's the point, because you can't win when the other guy lives in fantasy land. Keep on trucking bro, and when you're ordering your Big Mac meal today get an extra order of large fries with it, because I read that fries raise IGF levels.

You've still provided 0 evidence. Just trust you that it's better bro. Lol

 

[jumdumpster]

if its tested ugl stuff it should be exactly the same regardless of the gear youre taking
i bet the raws for all this stuff literally come from the same factory
only difference is whos at the end packing and selling it to users

 

[AlexDavis43]

if its tested ugl stuff it should be exactly the same regardless of the gear youre taking
i bet the raws for all this stuff literally come from the same factory
only difference is whos at the end packing and selling it to users

Basically agree, but I could fathom some exceptions -- different fillers, carrier oils, BA/BB %, etc., etc. All may influence different outcomes like bioavailability, half-life, PIP, etc.

I read that one pharma GH brand includes a diuretic in their product to help manage fluid balance. The raw GH might be the same, but other ingredients can be added to the final product.

Kinda like Jesse Pinkman and chili powder, if the chili powder had a biological purpose.

 

[crtx]

First before I tell you how I feel about your statements let me make it very clear so you don't get it all twisted. I happen to believe in Generic GH I already mentioned that, and I'm currently running some right now, but you are A CLOWN if you honestly believe that Generic GH and Pharm Grade are equal.

The ignorance on display here is laughable, and it's always the guys with ZERO real world experience who love to parrot whatever nonsense they bought into. I could go on and on and pick out the flaws in both of you guys comments, like the pros get their GH for free for starters , but what's the point, because you can't win when the other guy lives in fantasy land. Keep on trucking bro, and when you're ordering your Big Mac meal today get an extra order of large fries with it, because I read that fries raise IGF levels.

brother your blinded to the big pharma brand.. you gonna try and say a HPLC report is wrong now?

i'v tested back to back blood work pharma vs ugl and had seen hplc reports for both.. and honestly for the wallet damage it aint worth it.

this is real world experience. Your McDonalds analogy doesn't make sense.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Testing for hGH concentration matters, but other ingredients in the final product may also have an effect.

For example, I read that some pharma hGH has diuretics added to help manage water retention. UGL hGH might have the same exact amount of hGH, but not other ingredients that influence side effects, bioavailability, efficacy, etc.

*for what it's worth, I've used both and didn't notice a difference, so I stick with UGL because of the price difference

 

[Dean61]

Sharmony b

 

[methyl mike]

Is there really a difference?

Possibly. Each manufacturer of pharma has their own personal recipe that they use as fillers and to keep the powder sterile. I think the filler people seem to like most is mannitol, possibly acting as a mild diuretic.

@Liska has covered this topic quite well I think. He's an actual expert, I just know enough to get by.