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Do Transgender people.....

Get prescribed hormones? Like test for a girl that wants to be a guy?

If so how is that legal?

What if I wanna identify as a massive bodybuilder? What’s the difference?
 
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DNPstoney

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Get prescribed hormones? Like test for a girl that wants to be a guy?

If so how is that legal?

What if I wanna identify as a massive bodybuilder? What’s the difference?
Yes. Trans men would be prescribed testosterone (and probably other drugs), and trans women would be prescribed estrogen (and probably other drugs).

It is legal because it is a doctors prescription. Testosterone is also not illegal to prescribe; most AAS are/were legal for medical purposes originally. For example, I know anavar was, and might still be, prescribed to chemo patients to prevent muscle wasting.

The difference is the supraphsiological levels of Testosterone. Basically, if you are a man and willing to pay (not insurance), you can get a legal prescription for Testosterone. The difference is the dose amount; the high amounts that I have ever heard or prescribed to a man for TRT is 250mg/week, and normally it is more like 100-200mg/week. Massive/pro bodybuilders are normally running 4+ times this amount.

It’s the same with other AAS. Anavar might be prescribed to a chemo patient at 10mg/day, but a bodybuilder would get minimal effects from this. They would want to run more like 100mg/day of Var to see results, and var is normally considered mild, so they would probably want something stronger.

I am guessing this post is just some trans hate post; “I want to identify as a heroin dealer, so why can’t I legally do that???”
 
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Swole_Guacamole

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As someone who frequents the gay bars (not gay, just better atmosphere), I’ve actually asked several trans about their access to testosterone and referred them to this site. apparently it is harder than just going into your doctor and telling them you want to transition.
 
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DNPstoney

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Swole Guacamole" pid='43323' dateline='1551398489:
As someone who frequents the gay bars (not gay, just better atmosphere), I’ve actually asked several trans about their access to testosterone and referred them to this site. apparently it is harder than just going into your doctor and telling them you want to transition.
Sounds like someone enjoys free drinks and being complimented on their rock hard glutes.
 
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I wish there was a trans term for us males wanting to become super males. I identify as a man with 10X natural testoterone levels… I wish a doctor would help me with my transition. I also wish they made separate bathrooms for our people with larger doors. It’s humilating trying to fit through a cisgender natty’s doorway.
 
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DNPstoney" pid='43321' dateline='1551398215:
Hopeisfading" pid='43309' dateline='1551394128:
Get prescribed hormones? Like test for a girl that wants to be a guy?

If so how is that legal?

What if I wanna identify as a massive bodybuilder? What’s the difference?
Yes. Trans men would be prescribed testosterone (and probably other drugs), and trans women would be prescribed estrogen (and probably other drugs).

It is legal because it is a doctors prescription. Testosterone is also not illegal to prescribe; most AAS are/were legal for medical purposes originally. For example, I know anavar was, and might still be, prescribed to chemo patients to prevent muscle wasting.

The difference is the supraphsiological levels of Testosterone. Basically, if you are a man and willing to pay (not insurance), you can get a legal prescription for Testosterone. The difference is the dose amount; the high amounts that I have ever heard or prescribed to a man for TRT is 250mg/week, and normally it is more like 100-200mg/week. Massive/pro bodybuilders are normally running 4+ times this amount.

It’s the same with other AAS. Anavar might be prescribed to a chemo patient at 10mg/day, but a bodybuilder would get minimal effects from this. They would want to run more like 100mg/day of Var to see results, and var is normally considered mild, so they would probably want something stronger.

I am guessing this post is just some trans hate post; “I want to identify as a heroin dealer, so why can’t I legally do that???”
Nah man. Honestly no hate at all. I believe people should do whatever makes them happy. The I wanna identify as a bodybuilder was more of a joke. Guess it didn’t go over as I planned.

I was genuinely curious if they get prescribed testosterone. Or if they had to get it on their own like we do.

Really no hate what so ever.
 
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Kgood017

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Swole Guacamole" pid='43323' dateline='1551398489:
As someone who frequents the gay bars (not gay, just better atmosphere)
I wish my friends were as smart as you and I. The gay pride festival is my personal super bowl. It’s seriously 10 straight girls for every 1 straight guy. A few years ago I was chatting with some random people there and I said I was straight. This girl gets excited and runs off to find her friend. She introduces me as “this guy is straight” and then we proceeded to fuck in a porta potty. Didn’t exchange numbers, never knew each other’s names. She was honestly only a 7/10, but it is still fun to think about.
 
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DNPstoney

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Hopeisfading" pid='43343' dateline='1551401258:
DNPstoney" pid='43321' dateline='1551398215:
Hopeisfading" pid='43309' dateline='1551394128:
Get prescribed hormones? Like test for a girl that wants to be a guy?

If so how is that legal?

What if I wanna identify as a massive bodybuilder? What’s the difference?
Yes. Trans men would be prescribed testosterone (and probably other drugs), and trans women would be prescribed estrogen (and probably other drugs).

It is legal because it is a doctors prescription. Testosterone is also not illegal to prescribe; most AAS are/were legal for medical purposes originally. For example, I know anavar was, and might still be, prescribed to chemo patients to prevent muscle wasting.

The difference is the supraphsiological levels of Testosterone. Basically, if you are a man and willing to pay (not insurance), you can get a legal prescription for Testosterone. The difference is the dose amount; the high amounts that I have ever heard or prescribed to a man for TRT is 250mg/week, and normally it is more like 100-200mg/week. Massive/pro bodybuilders are normally running 4+ times this amount.

It’s the same with other AAS. Anavar might be prescribed to a chemo patient at 10mg/day, but a bodybuilder would get minimal effects from this. They would want to run more like 100mg/day of Var to see results, and var is normally considered mild, so they would probably want something stronger.

I am guessing this post is just some trans hate post; “I want to identify as a heroin dealer, so why can’t I legally do that???”
Nah man. Honestly no hate at all. I believe people should do whatever makes them happy. The I wanna identify as a bodybuilder was more of a joke. Guess it didn’t go over as I planned.

I was genuinely curious if they get prescribed testosterone. Or if they had to get it on their own like we do.

Really no hate what so ever.
Hah, I probably just spend a bit too much time in places that have been becoming more and more right-leaning, that I am cynical about legitimate questions about transgender people.

My understanding is that they are able to get prescribed testosterone (or other hromones), but it requires a ton of hopes to jump through, as well as not being cheap. So many people will opt to self-medicate with hormones from places like here to try to avoid the medical buerocracy. Similar to how a lot of guys that need TRT just say fuck it after the doctor gives them the run around and tells them that 200ng/dl is perfectly normal for a 21 year old and they end up on self-prescribed TRT.
 
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system

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Female wants to become a male, sure!

Male wants to become more of a male, nope!
 
Let’s start a revolution (fuck you myogen) I’m sick of all the massphobic sismassed people regularsizedpersonsplaining how “Your gross looking girls don’t like that eww your TOO big and TOO lean”!!!

#JuiceyLivesMatter
#MassiveRights
 
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ParceVeinte4

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I know someone who is currently being prescribed test for transition. As far as their dose, how east or hard it was, etc I have no idea. It definitely is a thing though. I would imagine they’re on a pretty low dose , at least to us. I’ll try to ask next time I see them.
 
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Masterofron

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Let’s start a revolution (fuck you myogen) I’m sick of all the massphobic sismassed people regularsizedpersonsplaining how “Your gross looking girls don’t like that eww your TOO big and TOO lean”!!!

#JuiceyLivesMatter
#MassiveRights
Lmao wut hahaha
 
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In the late 80s after the Ben Johnson incident, Congress went nuts and cracked down on steroids, and docs can’t prescribe them off label like other drugs. If docs could do that, you’d likely see clinics, similar to plastic surgery clinics, where men could get steroids prescribed for things like bodybuilding, though the doses likely would be fairly low and of milder compounds. As far as transgenders using test, my understanding is Planned Parenthood will prescribe it with few hoops to go through. I doubt regular docs will-they probably refer them to specialists who require all sorts of psychological testing. What is interesting is if you read research on testosterone use in transgenders, the side effects are accurately presented, whereas the medical community generally sensationalizes and exaggerates the frequency and incidence of side effects in biological males.
 
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Masterofron

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In the late 80s after the Ben Johnson incident, Congress went nuts and cracked down on steroids, and docs can’t prescribe them off label like other drugs. If docs could do that, you’d likely see clinics, similar to plastic surgery clinics, where men could get steroids prescribed for things like bodybuilding, though the doses likely would be fairly low and of milder compounds. As far as transgenders using test, my understanding is Planned Parenthood will prescribe it with few hoops to go through. I doubt regular docs will-they probably refer them to specialists who require all sorts of psychological testing. What is interesting is if you read research on testosterone use in transgenders, the side effects are accurately presented, whereas the medical community generally sensationalizes and exaggerates the frequency and incidence of side effects in biological males.
We have a clinic in Denver that A lot of the Armbrust (gym Phil Heath trains at) bodybuilders go too. They do both TRT/hormone therapy and plastic surgery.

Shady practice. A lot of young guys use em… These places exist, there’s always someone/a group of people who are willing to play with the law a little bit…
 
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Masterofron" pid='43494' dateline='1551489736:
Tony Parks" pid='43479' dateline='1551482692:
In the late 80s after the Ben Johnson incident, Congress went nuts and cracked down on steroids, and docs can’t prescribe them off label like other drugs. If docs could do that, you’d likely see clinics, similar to plastic surgery clinics, where men could get steroids prescribed for things like bodybuilding, though the doses likely would be fairly low and of milder compounds. As far as transgenders using test, my understanding is Planned Parenthood will prescribe it with few hoops to go through. I doubt regular docs will-they probably refer them to specialists who require all sorts of psychological testing. What is interesting is if you read research on testosterone use in transgenders, the side effects are accurately presented, whereas the medical community generally sensationalizes and exaggerates the frequency and incidence of side effects in biological males.
We have a clinic in Denver that A lot of the Armbrust (gym Phil Heath trains at) bodybuilders go too. They do both TRT/hormone therapy and plastic surgery.

Shady practice. A lot of young guys use em… These places exist, there’s always someone/a group of people who are willing to play with the law a little bit…
I’ve heard of similar places in south Florida though I don’t know anything firsthand. I’ve heard of docs prescribing healthy doses of test plus deca and anavar, and the docs rotating through the clinics so that no one doc’s prescribing practices get undue attention. The culture there is so vain–there are all these diet clinics where normal-sized women go in and come out with 4-5 prescriptions for various weight loss drugs.

The last time I was in Denver, I visited a dispensary downtown not far from the train station. I picked up some cannabis pills for joint pain. They didn’t do much for the pain but definitely made me feel relaxed and not particularly concerned with the pain. It’s a nice city.
 
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resistor

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As someone who frequents the gay bars (not gay, just better atmosphere), I’ve actually asked several trans about their access to testosterone and referred them to this site. apparently it is harder than just going into your doctor and telling them you want to transition.
yeah I think a lot of it depends on local/regional culture, but generally speaking it’s actually probably a lot more difficult to do HRT as a trans person than it is as a man just tryna get his test a bit higher w/TRT


kingofcarbz" pid='43361' dateline='1551405359:
Female wants to become a male, sure!

Male wants to become more of a male, nope!
nah, it doesn’t work like that at all.
 
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DNPstoney

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Swole Guacamole" pid='43323' dateline='1551398489:
As someone who frequents the gay bars (not gay, just better atmosphere), I’ve actually asked several trans about their access to testosterone and referred them to this site. apparently it is harder than just going into your doctor and telling them you want to transition.
yeah I think a lot of it depends on local/regional culture, but generally speaking it’s actually probably a lot more difficult to do HRT as a trans person than it is as a man just tryna get his test a bit higher w/TRT


kingofcarbz" pid='43361' dateline='1551405359:
Female wants to become a male, sure!

Male wants to become more of a male, nope!
nah, it doesn’t work like that at all.


Depends on what you mean by difficult, but I agree. I would say that it is easier for someone who is trans to get on HRT than it is for someone with Test levels of 650ng/dl to get on TRT though; at least from their normal doctor.

I remember a few months ago, there was someone asking about hormones for HRT (Estrogen IIRC) from here. They were directed to DO, and they said they were going to try to make him known in some trans communities, where lots of people have trouble getting on HRT. Really shows how it isn’t as simple or easy as people make it.
 
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kingofcarbz" pid='43361' dateline='1551405359:
Female wants to become a male, sure!

Male wants to become more of a male, nope!
Check your toxic masculinity! Your male privilege doesn’t allow you to be even more toxic. /s
 
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nah, it doesn’t work like that at all.
Care to elaborate?

Last I checked a dude cannot get a HRT script because he wants to develop more masculine features.

Yet, a woman can get a HRT script because she wants to develop masculine features.

Of course there is a process involved with the woman getting a HRT script, but there isn’t even a possibility for a normal man with levels in range who simply wants to become more manly.

Is this untrue?

Those crooked anti-aging clinics some states allow do not count for either side ofc
 

resistor

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resistor" pid='43574' dateline='1551549016:
nah, it doesn’t work like that at all.
Care to elaborate?

Last I checked a dude cannot get a HRT script because he wants to develop more masculine features.

Yet, a woman can get a HRT script because she wants to develop masculine features.

Of course there is a process involved with the woman getting a HRT script, but there isn’t even a possibility for a normal man with levels in range who simply wants to become more manly.

Is this untrue?

Those crooked anti-aging clinics some states allow do not count for either side ofc
normal levels of test (TRT) don’t cause an adult male to develop more masculine features
 
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