Doctor knowing I am on cycle?

[PersianBody19]

Hello all,

I am going to be getting my BMP (basic metabolic panel) and Liver (AST & ALT) blood work tomorrow morning ordered by my dermatologist.

I have been on 300mg test c for about 12-13 weeks and Primo E 400mg for about 4-5 weeks

I have also taken 25mg tbol & 10mg var for 30 days but stopped 12 days ago (wanted to mention this)

Will the BMP and liver blood test show a crazy elevation in which it’s obvious I am on cycle? or am I just paranoid like a mf. My biggest fear is them keeping that on my log and issues coming later on the road with insurance or who knows what.

The orals IMO is low dose and ran for so short I don’t see anything that will be on paper for a red flag, but my primo and Test is what I am thinking about will raise flags lol.

I was supposed to get my own blood work done a week ago to see where Im at but long story short it didn’t work out

 

[behindhumanity_0]

The main things I’d be worried about being elevated would be an elevated Hemoglobin and Hematocrit and your lipids being trashed. HOWEVER, those values are measured through a CBC and lipid panel, which your derm didn’t order.

Your ALT/AST will likely be OK.

 

[PersianBody19]

@behindhumanity-0

pretty sure they mentioned CBC and lipid being on there too, but can 12 days off var and tbol at least somewhat become within range?

 

[Jay]

Yeah your insurance is going to fuck you for it if not now sometime later.

Your doctor has to go off of what you tell them and you have the right to refuse treatment. You can say your not on roids and choose not to proceed any further, but even that can come with its own repercussions

 

[behindhumanity_0]

@PersianBody19 I know you’re hoping for someone to tell you that you’re good to go to give you peace of mind but the truth is no one can tell you definitively one way or another. how your labs are going to look. Labwork on gear is so variable between individuals just like all other aspects (side effects, response, etc.)

The chances of your ALT/AST being out of range are low but there’s always a chance they are.

 

[EpicFlash]

@PersianBody19
It’s been my experience that docs will not ask…… even if they suspect it, they will not directly ask. I have seen several doctors over last few years …cardio……PCP……liver doc….etc…and it’s pretty obvious appearance wise considering my age….but they will not ask……And I would also never tell them……whatever you tell them will become a note in your history so just….don’t………yes, your liver numbers will be off…. But AST/ALT numbers that are out of whack for us is pale in comparison to someone with actual liver disease (assuming you haven’t abused drugs and alcohol for years.)

 

[tejascardinal]

@EpicFlash said in Doctor knowing I am on cycle?:

it’s pretty obvious appearance wise considering my age….but they will not ask……And I would also never tell them……whatever you tell them will become a note in your history so just….don’t………yes, your liver numbers will be off…. But AST/ALT numbers that are out of whack for us is pale in comparison to someone with actual liver disease (assuming you haven’t abused drugs and alcohol for years.)

+1

Whatever you decide to indulge will become public record that could affect your insurance/future health care. Play stupid even if they insinuate it.

 

[purplepandaRep]

Worst thing you can possibly do. Reason being that the doctor doesn’t know you are on anabolic steroids…. Their proper diagnosis is based off your blood work and the dermatologist may ask you to follow up with your GP for sonograms of your liver, ekg for heart etc etc. I had this happen before, the only dead give away was my RBC count… a doctor will ask if you are on Anabolics if your RBC count is through the roof.

Your best bet is to go cold Turkey on everything for one month and then get tested. It only took me a few weeks for all my levels to come within normal range. My levels for everything weren’t even “high” or considered dangerous but apparently having those levels set off bells in my GP’s head that something is not right with my body.

This was after a full year of blasting non stop, came off everything for a month. Got retested and everything was normal. Just my 2 cents.

 

[purplepandaRep]

Yeah my AST/ALT wasn’t even “high” just out of range and this GP wanted me tested for liver tumors and all kinds of crazy shit. I knew from that point on that I cannot be on anything if I’m going to see the doctor for a routine checkup or just basic blood work.

 

[MikeAlstott]

I take it you decided to hop on Accutane through your derm. You should just buy it yourself and get your own bloods. Avoids all this paranoia.

 

[Jay]

@PersianBody19 yeah what are you going to the dermatologist for anyways that would require such extensive bloodwork?

 

[PersianBody19]

@MikeAlstott @Jay

I’ve heard mixed things about UGL and decided about going the derm route, I know that they want bloods every month for 6 months but it’s like the Basic blood panel (BMP , lipids, and AST/ALT), was hoping that it gonna be a slightly out of range value but nothing crazy on any of them, pushed my blood work till Monday morning.

My BMP from the past has decently been in range, lipids within range but HDL is slightly low, AST & ALT in the past depended on how recent I took any orals (given that I don’t drink)

 

[PersianBody19]

@behindhumanity-0
@Jay
@MikeAlstott

Would Primo E even throw lipids off the range? I’ve never heard of primo affecting anything really but then again it’s oil that’s injected but then again its MCT, which I thought would benefit cholesterol levels somewhat rather than GSO

 

[PersianBody19]

If worst comes to worst and I get a call after Monday that my levels are stupidly high, I was planning to just tell them (the nurse), “oh I ate a few snacks at 3AM ish because I couldn’t sleep and didn’t think it would still be in my system by the morning” or “I kept waking up so I took Tylenol” .

I am in my early 20’s and B & C just started about a year ago, haven’t drank in 3ish years, don’t run orals that often, and even if its low doses and less than 8 weeks,
and given my past blood work, I don’t think anything is gonna be stupid high where they will point to drug use/steroids/idk what else lol.

Im not too worried about the liver or the BMP but just the cholesterol levels mainly because I never have done bloods with primo e (only been on it for 4ish weeks on 400mg )

 

[MrMetal]

@PersianBody19 I’m not sure if this would be of any help but a slightly legitimate sounding reason you could give is that you were taking testosterone boosters and a bunch of other vitamins/supplements to increase your test in conjunction with whatever other reasons you were planning on giving.

This reminds me of a funny time when I went to my Dr for a minor injury, and at the end she pulled up my bloods from a few weeks ago that she forgot to review with me (was cruising at the time), and asked me if I was taking test. My total was a hair over 1200ng/dl and my free was about 315pg/ml. I was caught off guard so I said yes then she asked if it’s Dr prescribed. I was like fuck it and said no. Then I couldn’t believe my luck when she said to me “Oh ok you must get it OTC then” then just moved on like nothing had happened and didn’t type anything into her computer. I didn’t say anything after but I still don’t know if she just didn’t know it can’t be bought OTC or was covering for me lol. My insurance hasn’t changed or said anything to me so I’m assuming that she made no record of it at all even after I left the clinic.

Hopefully you get lucky and nothing comes of it.

 

[processbuild]

I’d probably say that I was on a bunch of supplements that a buddy recommended, but you can’t remember the name right now. I would expect a doctor to tell you to stop them and come back to retest in a couple months. Or, I told me doctor I’m being treated by a clinic for TRT (which I am, not on anything UGL) and he didn’t ask any specific follow up questions. I had just started though, brought them all of my bloodwork and they were ok with it.

 

[PersianBody19]

@MrMetal @processbuild

that sounds way better than my excuses lol, if they do bring anything up because my lipids or liver is somewhat “high” Im just gonna say I take a bunch of GNC supps and that Im gonna stop lol

they aren’t checking for test but I’m sure the my lipids at least while be somewhat out of range not a lot tho

 

[MikeAlstott]

@PersianBody19 right, I understand where you’re coming from. I took Accutane under doctor supervision when I was in high school. After that, I took it on my own because I knew what to look out for and how to monitor myself. It’s honestly annoying dealing with the monthly blood work and doctor’s visits. Think about the time and money you could potentially save. There are vendors here that offer pharma Accutane.

 

[PersianBody19]

@MikeAlstott

I completely agree with you, it is truly easy to see what to watch out for on bloodwork for Accutane. But somehow my insurance covers a majority of this other “process” than the $30 doc visit a month for the copay. It is gonna be annoying having bloods checked by a doc but Im just gonna cruise on low/decent amount of test and primo until this 5-6 months is up. Kinda happy with where my physique is at, at the moment but then again would be happier on cycle lol.

you think the 200mg-400mg weekly primo gonna dump lipids? if so I’m just gonna cruise on test

 

[Jordo]

@PersianBody19 Just give them the fcking OTC prohormone speech bullshit, and tell them you’d heard it could “temporarily” skew bloodwork and quit taking them 12 days ago…not illegal “well some aren’t” (show them some shit online from Hitech pharmaceuticals.) and then just play dumb.