Does test cause bloating (specifically in the face) even with e2 controlled?

[riskyneedlefetish]

I’ve experimented in the past with test doses, including just high doses (up to 860mg) of tren and no test, and I notice that I lose a metric fuckton of water retention whenever I drop test completely or use barely-TRT level dosages (like 100mg a week)

On 250 test I’m taking 12.5mg asin eod (yes I need this much trust me, even e3.5d I get all the high e2 signs), and I still think I have some face bloat compared to the 100mg test I was just on.

Anyone else notice this or what?

 

[Bmoney620]

I always do regardless if my e2 is controlled or not. My face is the first thing that slims down when I come off and the first thing to get fuller every time I get back on. But when I watch my sodium and dial in it slims downs mid cycle.

 

[riskyneedlefetish]

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I always do regardless if my e2 is controlled or not. My face is the first thing that slims down when I come off and the first thing to get fuller every time I get back on. But when I watch my sodium and dial in it slims downs mid cycle.

Talking solely testosterone here?

 

[AQualityPoop]

Does Tren bloat anyone else’s face a bit? I can pound 700g of carbs and wake up lean af but I notice my face remains a bit puffy. And I drink plenty of water and eat low sodium.