DragonOrdnance $3600 order

[ajx17]

I recently placed an order for two serostim from @DragonOrdnance (took about 2 weeks) and it seems legit, so went to place an order for 3 kits. Sent the bitcoin to the address provided on the website, then receive an email from ‘[email protected]’ - which is the official email they have listed on their site under their ‘contact’ tab - saying they did not receive the money, and I need to send to a new wallet, they said if I send to the new wallet, they will do right for their mistake and ship 8 or 9 kits of serostim for that $3600 value, so I sent and replies with this official email were within 10 mins back and forth. Nearly 48 hours after I asked the ‘[email protected]’ email if thats them they claim it is not them. Extremely confused and frustrated as to why a source would put a fake email contact on their own website and then say it does not belong to them, and I definitely want to know whats going to happen to my $3600 and order. I have pictures of emails if needed to post.

 

[DragonOrdnance]

Not sure how this happened. I’ll investigate into it. As far as I can see though - the contact page has always listed the correct email, and upon checking right now, it is the correct email still, not with this (e).

Any orders made through the website, or through [email protected], are legit.

 

[lynxpoint]

This happened to other people as well.

You are probably using a fake clone of their website that someone set up to scam people.

I just placed an order today and the confirmation email came from [email protected]

And when I click contact tab on the site the email is [email protected]

So I’m pretty sure you are not getting that $3k back

 

[ajx17]

@DragonOrdnance said in DragonOrdnance $3600 order:

Not sure how this happened. I’ll investigate into it. As far as I can see though - the contact page has always listed the correct email, and upon checking right now, it is the correct email still, not with this (e).

Any orders made through the website, or through [email protected], are legit.

I just refreshed the same contact page, and now dragonordnance is showing. It was previously showing dragonordernance.

I definitely want an explanation as to whats going on here dude…

 

[GEBP]

Not to be a dick or anything @DragonOrdnance but this is a buddy of mine and we both saw the same thing. I pointed him your way for Sero’s and when I went to the contact section it had the email he pointed out.

 

[ajx17]

@lynxpoint nope, same exact site, now the email is listing the correct one.

 

[lynxpoint]

@ajx17 @DragonOrdnance This means that their site is somehow compromised and the scammer is able to change that email address at will. I saw some other people complaining about that dragonordernance fake email in a different thread on here.

 

[lynxpoint]

“saying they did not receive the money, and I need to send to a new wallet, they said if I send to the new wallet” I think you sent that $3k to the scammer’s wallet and not DO’s wallet. So @DragonOrdnance your website is compromised somehow. Please fix/address this because I am scared to order from you now. How can I tell if the wallet on the website is your wallet or a scammer’s wallet?

 

[ajx17]

@lynxpoint said in DragonOrdnance $3600 order:

@ajx17 @DragonOrdnance This means that their site is somehow compromised and the scammer is able to change that email address at will. I saw some other people complaining about that dragonordernance fake email in a different thread on here.

Its very strange that the email just now changed to the correct one for me only after posting this thread, I have had that same window open and refreshing it since I placed the order on Sunday.

 

[ajx17]

I sent $1800 to the wallet provided on the website after placing the order, and another $1800 to the wallet given by the dragonordernance email. If his website is compromised, I expect them to make right and resolve this situation.

 

[lynxpoint]

My guess is some guy has access to DO’s website. He sits and waits for large orders to come through. When he sees one (like your $1800 order) he gets your email, reaches out to you with his fake ordernance email, says ‘hey we didnt get your payment, can you resend it’ (this should have been a red flag for you, a source like DO will never reach out to you saying this) then the scammer quickly changes the contact email on the website to match his fake one in order to convince you it’s real. Afterwards he changes everything back.

 

[ajx17]

@lynxpoint said in DragonOrdnance $3600 order:

My guess is some guy has access to DO’s website. He sits and waits for large orders to come through. When he sees one (like your $1800 order) he gets your email, reaches out to you with his fake ordernance email, says ‘hey we didnt get your payment, can you resend it’ (this should have been a red flag for you, a source like DO will never reach out to you saying this) then the scammer quickly changes the contact email on the website to match his fake one in order to convince you it’s real. Afterwards he changes everything back.

Yep, I definitely thought it was fake initially, but then when I saw that email listed as the official one, I thought it was them. Plus, my emails with ‘dragonordnance@protonmail’ have only ever been with someone named ‘Jade’ who takes about 24 hours to reply, so I thought this email was the actual email of the owner himself rather than whoever ‘Jade’ is.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

@ajx17 Did you take a screenshot after refreshing for 4 days?

I’m surprised this wasn’t noticed by you given the spelling error in a long standing email address. It’s also listed here on his page and in his signature.

@lynxpoint Lets not jump to conclusions on site safety before we have any evidence.

We will look into this as well.

 

[bvsst]

@CaptainAmerica I also received an email from the scam email address after placing an order. I have a picture of the email if it helps.

 

[ajx17]

@CaptainAmerica said in DragonOrdnance $3600 order:

@ajx17 Did you take a screenshot after refreshing for 4 days?

I’m surprised this wasn’t noticed by you given the spelling error in a long standing email address. It’s also listed here on his page and in his signature.

@lynxpoint Lets not jump to conclusions on site safety before we have any evidence.

We will look into this as well.

The screenshot is included in my original post above. The ordernance email stayed constant and on their website as the contact email for those entire two days, it was not until after I made this post and @DragonOrdnance posted that the email was then restored to the ‘ordnance’ email on their website.

I was referred to this source from a friend who posted above and I have not been on SST since 2018, so I’m not going to be able to decipher from ‘ordnance’ or ‘ordernance’ especially when the latter is listed as the only official email on their site. I also figured this was their main email, since sources tend to have different emails (usually differing by protonmail/tutanota etc), and the ‘ordnance’ email has only ever been communicated through ‘Jade’ - whoever that is.

 

[king_geno]

@DragonOrdnance your website and email have been compromised.

I have screenshots of my own email to prove it, and now unfortunately I believe I have been scammed out of 2 blacktop kits after have been reached out to by YOUR OWN email address saying there was a bogo sale going on.

Mods please continue to look into this

 

[CaptainAmerica]

@king_geno Adressed you in the other thread

 

[DragonOrdnance]

@lynxpoint the wallet on the website is just fine. I have received ajx’s original order on the site, and the bitcoin and all matches it. Theres literally zero way to be able to hack a payment processor. You’d be going up against large companies, such as coinpayments.

@king_geno I’m sorry but again, any email that has an E in it, is simply not me. I’ve had my website and emails listed for the longest of times. The site has been a staple in processing payments forever, and never has a scam happened. The website still, to this moment, is processing payments. There is just no way to hack a payment processor.

 

[king_geno]

@DragonOrdnance have you considered that it might have been your own email that was compromised then?

It is extremely unlikely that a number of people all happened to get phished all at once from an imposter, and that he had access to all of our individual emails back and forth with you.

It’s much more likely he got them all from one place and then reached out to each account individually

 

[CaptainAmerica]

@king_geno That’s not the case in my experience. Hence why there are so many warning around the site for this.