Energy Control Analytical Services

[EnergyControl]

Hello all,

We are Energy Control, a US domestic analytical testing service that specializes in testing anabolic steroids. We will be using this thread to post all testing done through us for SST. Feel free to ask any questions you may have here or via email at [email protected].

Information about our services is detailed here:

https://imgur.com/a/cEP1hPF

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All the best,
-Alice

 

[Septicanon]

Still waiting for the paperwork from the real Energy Control with HQ in Spain (a long way from your home!) to verify authenticity

 

[Deadlift]

Septicanon" pid='9749' dateline='1524684151:

Still waiting for the paperwork from the real Energy Control with HQ in Spain (a long way from your home!) to verify authenticity

For what it’s worth I’ve sent to their Spain center before, but granted that was through their website my first time. That’s how I initially found their domestic service though, was contacted via Tutanota about it after sending the sample in.

 

[EnergyControl]

Septicanon" pid='9749' dateline='1524684151:

Still waiting for the paperwork from the real Energy Control with HQ in Spain (a long way from your home!) to verify authenticity

We’ve sent all necessary verification to admins that they asked for.

We don’t live in Spain and haven’t in years as we have explained, we are merely a small team comprised of a couple previous workers still associated with our EC family back home.

We are able to and have many times been given unidentified samples and accurately identified them, even when sent to multiple testing sources. That’s impossible without analytical chemistry abilities. You’re welcome to inquire about our methods if you’re ever curious!

All the best,
-Alice

 

[Janoshik]

Septicanon" pid='9749' dateline='1524684151:

Still waiting for the paperwork from the real Energy Control with HQ in Spain (a long way from your home!) to verify authenticity

Of course there is none, they are just (ab)using the name for the brand.

They have absolutely nothing to do with Energy Control and I wonder why are they tolerated here with the blatant abuse.

Or does anybody honestly believe they ship samples somewhere in the US and they reship them to Spain and get results within 2 days of that? Are people that naive over here nowdays?

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EnergyControl" pid='9783' dateline='1524692543:

Septicanon" pid='9749' dateline='1524684151:

Still waiting for the paperwork from the real Energy Control with HQ in Spain (a long way from your home!) to verify authenticity

We’ve sent all necessary verification to admins that they asked for.

We don’t live in Spain and haven’t in years as we have explained, we are merely a small team comprised of a couple previous workers still associated with our EC family back home.

We are able to and have many times been given unidentified samples and accurately identified them, even when sent to multiple testing sources. That’s impossible without analytical chemistry abilities. You’re welcome to inquire about our methods if you’re ever curious!

All the best,
-Alice

Your analytical chemistry abilities have absolutely nothing to do with you having a connection to the real Energy Control, Alice.

There is literally no connection between you and EC, so what you are doing here with the name is quite resembling a scam.

Identification is literally the easiest part of the analysis, if you have access to mass spectrometer.

 

[Septicanon]

EnergyControl" pid='9783' dateline='1524692543:

Septicanon" pid='9749' dateline='1524684151:

Still waiting for the paperwork from the real Energy Control with HQ in Spain (a long way from your home!) to verify authenticity

We’ve sent all necessary verification to admins that they asked for.

We don’t live in Spain and haven’t in years as we have explained, we are merely a small team comprised of a couple previous workers still associated with our EC family back home.

We are able to and have many times been given unidentified samples and accurately identified them, even when sent to multiple testing sources. That’s impossible without analytical chemistry abilities. You’re welcome to inquire about our methods if you’re ever curious!

All the best,
-Alice

You can’t do that. The name is obviously copyrighted. I have just contacted the real EC, see how much they can vouch for you guys. If I don’t get a reply I will visit their offices in person as I have volunteered for them in the past. I know they would never, ever test for AAS or peptides. You’re compromising the reputation of a CHARITY that saves lives every weekend, and potentially offering fake testing of AAS which could harm SST users.

 

[Deadlift]

Septicanon" pid='9955' dateline='1524762022:

EnergyControl" pid='9783' dateline='1524692543:

Septicanon" pid='9749' dateline='1524684151:

Still waiting for the paperwork from the real Energy Control with HQ in Spain (a long way from your home!) to verify authenticity

We’ve sent all necessary verification to admins that they asked for.

We don’t live in Spain and haven’t in years as we have explained, we are merely a small team comprised of a couple previous workers still associated with our EC family back home.

We are able to and have many times been given unidentified samples and accurately identified them, even when sent to multiple testing sources. That’s impossible without analytical chemistry abilities. You’re welcome to inquire about our methods if you’re ever curious!

All the best,
-Alice

You can’t do that. The name is obviously copyrighted. I have just contacted the real EC, see how much they can vouch for you guys. If I don’t get a reply I will visit their offices in person as I have volunteered for them in the past. I know they would never, ever test for AAS or peptides. You’re compromising the reputation of a CHARITY that saves lives every weekend, and potentially offering fake testing of AAS which could harm SST users.

I’m not sure you understand copyright laws correctly, nor the relevancy it has in this situation.

We assure you our tests are far from fake, we all have beyond adequate skills and experience testing a huge range of substances.

How do you suggest we are able to identify substance and amount for unlabeled samples?

 

[EnergyControl]

Septicanon" pid='9955' dateline='1524762022:

EnergyControl" pid='9783' dateline='1524692543:

Septicanon" pid='9749' dateline='1524684151:

Still waiting for the paperwork from the real Energy Control with HQ in Spain (a long way from your home!) to verify authenticity

We’ve sent all necessary verification to admins that they asked for.

We don’t live in Spain and haven’t in years as we have explained, we are merely a small team comprised of a couple previous workers still associated with our EC family back home.

We are able to and have many times been given unidentified samples and accurately identified them, even when sent to multiple testing sources. That’s impossible without analytical chemistry abilities. You’re welcome to inquire about our methods if you’re ever curious!

All the best,
-Alice

You can’t do that. The name is obviously copyrighted. I have just contacted the real EC, see how much they can vouch for you guys. If I don’t get a reply I will visit their offices in person as I have volunteered for them in the past. I know they would never, ever test for AAS or peptides. You’re compromising the reputation of a CHARITY that saves lives every weekend, and potentially offering fake testing of AAS which could harm SST users.

(Update: We went ahead and emailed Jano ourselves, so just check when you get the chance.)

We are beyond capable of and happy to verify the accuracy of our tests. We would never present inaccurate results when it comes to a topic close to our hearts. Our relation to Energy Control Spain is verifiable as well, though due to the clandestine nature of our domestic operations and, as we’ve explained, relations being solely past workers who are closely associated, you won’t find luck just asking in person (which is why we went through admin verification as much as we’d love to give all our info to everyone who asks — Jano will be an exception due to his work). We have had no issues using the name for years on r/darknetmarkets but our concern has only ever been tests, not identity — which is incredibly important to do your best to protect in a domestic operation like our own.

As we’ve asked, Jano is welcome to email us and we will further validate through him as we have with admins already. He’s welcome to send us 10 samples of random white powder and we’ll tell him exactly what it is and everything about it. Our analytical abilities will pass any challenge (within our listed capabilities). We certainly hope you do your best to feel comfortable with our results and the benefit they have for the community.

 

[Janoshik]

Yes, they did indeed email me.

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They have quite convinced me so far, waiting for the raw data now.

I’m going off for a while now, so I’ll get to it tomorrow.

 

[Septicanon]

Received a reply from the real Energy control. TL;DR: we have no idea who these people are, they are not afdiliated in any way, and we never have/will test anabolics. They will investigate further.

Hola,

Gracias por contactarnos e informarnos de la situación. Obviamente, es una situación irregular, puesto que nosotros no analizamos anabolizantes.

No es la primera vez que suplantan nuestra identidad. Seguiremos el caso.

 

[EnergyControl]

Received a reply from the real Energy control. TL;DR: we have no idea who these people are, they are not afdiliated in any way, and we never have/will test anabolics. They will investigate further.

Hola,

Gracias por contactarnos e informarnos de la situación. Obviamente, es una situación irregular, puesto que nosotros no analizamos anabolizantes.

No es la primera vez que suplantan nuestra identidad. Seguiremos el caso.

As much as we appreciate your detective work, we already explained asking EC will lead nowhere. We are an illegal operation, it makes zero sense for EC to publicly connect themselves with us – you’d have as much luck asking any of the vendors here if they sell gear. Regardless, there is a reason we emailed Janoshik and privately verified with mods, we are here to protect our identity. Protecting our identity while providing accurate lab results is our only goal.

We’ve already been in communications with Jano and sent him our raw data, he will be able to verify it so nobody has any questions about the integrity of our results. We do appreciate your efforts though, it’s important to be doubtful in science.

(Our reply from a different thread)

 

[Septicanon]

You’re full of shit. Using AAS is legal in Spain; HQ would have no problem confirming or denying your existance had you split off from EC. Youre not a splinter from them- youve never worked for them, so stop pretending to be employees who koved to the US.

 

[EnergyControl]

Septicanon" pid='10138' dateline='1524842175:

You’re full of shit. Using AAS is legal in Spain; HQ would have no problem confirming or denying your existance had you split off from EC. Youre not a splinter from them- youve never worked for them, so stop pretending to be employees who koved to the US.

If you worked in Colorado growing weed, and then moved to Florida to grow weed, do you think the operation back in Colorado would publicly connect themselves to anyone in the FL operation? Especially to anyone at all who asks? No. Does that mean the FL operation isn’t growing weed, didn’t work in the operation in Colorado, etc.? No. We would love to give our personal information to everyone – unfortunately we can’t, but that’s okay, because our goal is simply to provide accurate results at an affordable price.

As we have said many times, we are not EnergyControl Spain aside from having 2 members of our small team previously having done work with them many years ago. For many years since, we have had no association aside from volunteering every year or so and maintaining contact with friends. I’m not sure what part of that isn’t clear, but it’d be much more helpful for you to criticize our analysis process, since people pay for results and that’s what we provide. We have sent raw data to Jano, a third party chemistry service, and two chem suppliers to validate. We aren’t concerned with working to validate our username on a forum that we’ve used across Reddit and other forums for years as much as the service we sell, you know? I guess we prioritize what’s important, which are our results (and protecting our identity).

 

[Arms_Length]

Septicanon" pid='10138' dateline='1524842175:

You’re full of shit. Using AAS is legal in Spain; HQ would have no problem confirming or denying your existance had you split off from EC. Youre not a splinter from them- youve never worked for them, so stop pretending to be employees who koved to the US.

Dude relax man. They have been nothing but respectful in their replies. Let’s trust Jano and the mods here who have seen the verification. And as far as I know you don’t have any skin in the game correct? You haven’t used there services at all, correct? You can simply not use them if you distrust them. But they clearly are at least identifying substances and concentrations correctly which is what we are want and need here.

Let’s wait for concrete evidence before we attack.

 

[Ctstrength]

I’ve used EC’s services and have been thoroughly satisfied with the results I got from them. Thought they were dead on from what my body was telling me anecdotally and what my bloodwork came back as, for what it is worth.

 

[Atexus]

Has anyone heard from this company in the last week? They’ve stopped responding to emails and are a week late on testing…

 

[Atexus]

I’ve been waiting over a week for a test that I paid extra to have expedited. I’ve emailed them from 2 different accounts multiple times and have not received a reply to any emails. At this point, coupled with the accusation of faking raw data, I’m leaning towards Energy Control doing what anonymizer did and scamming. I paid for multiple tests to be done, they’ve not done the tests and no longer communicate even though they willingly took my money. That’s a scam IMO

 

[sullinatah]

Atexus" pid='12231' dateline='1525814620:

I’ve been waiting over a week for a test that I paid extra to have expedited. I’ve emailed them from 2 different accounts multiple times and have not received a reply to any emails. At this point, coupled with the accusation of faking raw data, I’m leaning towards Energy Control doing what anonymizer did and scamming. I paid for multiple tests to be done, they’ve not done the tests and no longer communicate even though they willingly took my money. That’s a scam IMO

Damn. I sent 10 samples last Wed and received all my results Monday. There have been some hiccups along the way but they have been working with me to fix everything. It seems like they’re either unorganized or taking on too much work. I just can’t accept that they’re a scam… all 10 samples were unmarked and they told me what’s in them.

 

[Atexus]

Damn. I sent 10 samples last Wed and received all my results Monday. There have been some hiccups along the way but they have been working with me to fix everything. It seems like they’re either unorganized or taking on too much work. I just can’t accept that they’re a scam… all 10 samples were unmarked and they told me what’s in them.

I was more than willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, even after the accusations. But I sent samples 4/26, arrived 4/28, paid for expedited shipping. We’re now 10 days in and nothing.

Not having the results is mildly frustrating. But what really bothers me the most is them saying they reply to emails in “1-3 hours,” yet I’ve sent them 4 emails from 2 accounts (proton AND tutanota) in the last 8 days and haven’t gotten a single reply.

If you’re going to take someone’s money, then provide what you promise. Or, baring that, be available to explain why you were unable. Simply refusing to email me because they don’t know what they’re doing is NOT a valid response lol

 

[sullinatah]

Atexus" pid='12265' dateline='1525824749:

Damn. I sent 10 samples last Wed and received all my results Monday. There have been some hiccups along the way but they have been working with me to fix everything. It seems like they’re either unorganized or taking on too much work. I just can’t accept that they’re a scam… all 10 samples were unmarked and they told me what’s in them.

I was more than willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, even after the accusations. But I sent samples 4/26, arrived 4/28, paid for expedited shipping. We’re now 10 days in and nothing.

Not having the results is mildly frustrating. But what really bothers me the most is them saying they reply to emails in “1-3 hours,” yet I’ve sent them 4 emails from 2 accounts (proton AND tutanota) in the last 8 days and haven’t gotten a single reply.

If you’re going to take someone’s money, then provide what you promise. Or, baring that, be available to explain why you were unable. Simply refusing to email me because they don’t know what they’re doing is NOT a valid response lol

Ya that’s odd man. I actually emailed me them this morning and got a reply. But haven’t heard back since.