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Energy Control Lab Results: Enhanced Pharma and Gumball Labs

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Quick(ish) backstory:

I recently received a pack after ~30 days from EP, which contained plenty of vials of both his Test E and his TrenA/MastP blend.

During that 30 day wait, I was running close to bare on my own Tren/Mast stock, so I ordered a few vials of TrastP from Gumball, thinking I wouldn’t ever receive my EP order. Between EP’s order arriving and then me ordering lots of TrastP during Gumball’s BOGO sale (plus Energy Control showing up on the scene around the same time), I figured it was best to get these tested.

I mainly wanted to test EP’s stuff since the delay and other issues had me worried, and I figured I’d throw in Gumball’s Trast P since I’m currently sitting on 18-20 vials of it and wanted to make sure it’s legit.

The results:

EP Test E (250mg) - 248mg of Test Enanthate
EP Tren A/Mast P Blend (100mg/100mg) - 127mg Trenbolone Acetate / 96 mg Masteron Propionate
Gumball Labs TrastP - 111mg Trenbolone Acetate

Link to image gallery, in order of results above:
Two more notes:

1.) Unopened vials were opened and 2.5mL of each was drawn into a new syringe, and those three syringes were sent to EC without any details as to what they were supposed to be or what sources they came from. The only marker was that one vial had a piece of tape on it, for my own verification. When I originally emailed EC inquiring about their services, I asked if they could test for blends - they said yes. When they first tested the compounds, I got an email saying none of them were blends - they must have remembered me asking, as I did not give them that information after the initial question about services. Anyway, I asked for them to re-test them to double check for any blends, and they came back and said that they found one (that ended up being the EP blend).

2.) Energy Control was great to work with, I sent the samples out Friday and had the results back today, with constant communication during every step of the way. I highly recommend them for any lab testing, and will definitely be using them again in the future. I’m sure it was just another day at the office to them, but it’s wild to me that with no indication of what they had, they were able to accurately identify the compounds.

Anyway, ask any questions you may have and I’ll get to them tomorrow (close to bedtime now).
 
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So Gumballs Trast P is just Tren A, no Mast P…and it’s overdosed? I’ve been on almost 900mg of Tren A then, I have no idea how I’m not batshit insane right now lmao.
 
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No blend. Test again, blend… Bullshit.

The test is wrong. Send a sample to someone who knows what the fuck they are doing.
 
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Gumball_Labs" pid='10093' dateline='1524806188:
No blend. Test again, blend… Bullshit.

The test is wrong. Send a sample to someone who knows what the fuck they are doing.
Had my doubts about these guys from the gate.

@“newpinner” I got a guy if u want a 2nd opinion.
 
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“Energy Control” are at a best shady bunch impersonating a legitimate charity while claiming to have their blessing. See my posts in their threads.
 
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Jeffg353" pid='10108' dateline='1524819729:
Gumball_Labs" pid='10093' dateline='1524806188:
No blend. Test again, blend… Bullshit.

The test is wrong. Send a sample to someone who knows what the fuck they are doing.
Had my doubts about these guys from the gate.

@“newpinner” I got a guy if u want a 2nd opinion.
Hmm EC tested most of checkmate labs line up I believe. Maybe @“Checkmatelabs” can confirm if those were blind tests or if EC was aware of what they were testing.

My opinion is this was a rushed job. EC actually e-mailed me this guy’s results by mistake and the email seemed kind of rushed and mentioned something about an ER visit.
 
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Arms_Length" pid='10179' dateline='1524852750:
Jeffg353" pid='10108' dateline='1524819729:
Gumball_Labs" pid='10093' dateline='1524806188:
No blend. Test again, blend… Bullshit.

The test is wrong. Send a sample to someone who knows what the fuck they are doing.
Had my doubts about these guys from the gate.

@“newpinner” I got a guy if u want a 2nd opinion.
Hmm EC tested most of checkmate labs line up I believe. Maybe @“Checkmatelabs” can confirm if those were blind tests or if EC was aware of what they were testing.

My opinion is this was a rushed job. EC actually e-mailed me this guy’s results by mistake and the email seemed kind of rushed and mentioned something about an ER visit.
For what it’s worth, these were also blind tests. I never mentioned any compounds whatsoever. The only “hint” I ever gave was that I said that I sent blends, but that’s the only information I volunteered.


Jeffg353" pid='10108' dateline='1524819729:
Gumball_Labs" pid='10093' dateline='1524806188:
No blend. Test again, blend… Bullshit.

The test is wrong. Send a sample to someone who knows what the fuck they are doing.
Had my doubts about these guys from the gate.

@“newpinner” I got a guy if u want a 2nd opinion.
@“Jeffg353” , I’m interested - let me know the details and we’ll go from there.
 
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Arms_Length" pid='10179' dateline='1524852750:
Jeffg353" pid='10108' dateline='1524819729:
Gumball_Labs" pid='10093' dateline='1524806188:
No blend. Test again, blend… Bullshit.

The test is wrong. Send a sample to someone who knows what the fuck they are doing.
Had my doubts about these guys from the gate.

@“newpinner” I got a guy if u want a 2nd opinion.
Hmm EC tested most of checkmate labs line up I believe. Maybe @“Checkmatelabs” can confirm if those were blind tests or if EC was aware of what they were testing.

My opinion is this was a rushed job. EC actually e-mailed me this guy’s results by mistake and the email seemed kind of rushed and mentioned something about an ER visit.
Some (both raws and finished oils) were blind, some were not.
 
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Gumball_Labs" pid='10093' dateline='1524806188:
No blend. Test again, blend… Bullshit.

The test is wrong. Send a sample to someone who knows what the fuck they are doing.
We sent preliminary results before completing all our usual analysis (HPLC, SEC, CD, sometimes more). Normally we give no updates beyond when package was received and when results were completed — here we were replying literally as tests were ongoing and I was in the ER relaying that. The issue wasn’t a finalized one and we check through additional methods for that reason. It’s not as though we were told it was supposed to be a blend afterwards, we simply said our preliminary results don’t show a blend so we need to retest before confirmation and a delay would happen as a result. From the start we knew there was a chance we were testing blends because we were asked if it’s something we’re able to do. Doesn’t make a lot of sense knowing that. It’s easy to jump on the hate train when you’re selling product that isn’t what it says (which I don’t think is the first instance based on a couple bloods I’ve seen), but when you actually look at what happened and the facts, I think most rational people wouldn’t be fearmongering about these results or the process — we’re happy to send you raw data to have fun with like we did for the HGH sample.

The amount of data we’ve sent to verify our abilities is enormous, and 9/10 times it’s all unmarked compounds. We just finished a bunch of back and forth with Jano who has actually offered some great advice to help us improve in the future. 🙂
 
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I’ve sent a couple blind tests to EC before and I’ve had no issues beyond some timeliness problems. I think it’s a small operation or someone less experienced than Jano to be honest, just because of the way communications and the process is handled at times. The results have always been helpful, I just get a more youthful vibe from them if that makes sense. I don’t doubt they can test stuff well, I just think they have some work to do organization wise.

I sent an oil to EC that I’m also sending to Jano so it’ll be interesting to compare results. I’ve sent oil to EC that Jano has tested (Tren Ace), but someone else did the Jano test, so this time it’s for sure both the exact same product.
 
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Gumball_Labs" pid='10093' dateline='1524806188:
No blend. Test again, blend… Bullshit.

The test is wrong. Send a sample to someone who knows what the fuck they are doing.
That is a tad odd. I’m going to take some time to learn how to perform tests myself since I have access to all the equipment.

Jay


Gumball_Labs" pid='10093' dateline='1524806188:
No blend. Test again, blend… Bullshit.

The test is wrong. Send a sample to someone who knows what the fuck they are doing.
What is Trast P? Tren A/ Mast P?
 
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Sasquatch Labs" pid='10212' dateline='1524862673:
Gumball_Labs" pid='10093' dateline='1524806188:
No blend. Test again, blend… Bullshit.

The test is wrong. Send a sample to someone who knows what the fuck they are doing.
That is a tad odd. I’m going to take some time to learn how to perform tests myself since I have access to all the equipment.

Jay


Gumball_Labs" pid='10093' dateline='1524806188:
No blend. Test again, blend… Bullshit.

The test is wrong. Send a sample to someone who knows what the fuck they are doing.
What is Trast P? Tren A/ Mast P?


yes
 
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Was the testosterone Test E or Test P? Or is it that it was supposed to be P and it came back as E? I can’t 100% tell from the OP.
 
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Deadlift" pid='10225' dateline='1524866564:
Was the testosterone Test E or Test P? Or is it that it was supposed to be P and it came back as E? I can’t 100% tell from the OP.
Sorry, it was Test E. Came back as expected.
 
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newpinner" pid='10236' dateline='1524871451:
Deadlift" pid='10225' dateline='1524866564:
Was the testosterone Test E or Test P? Or is it that it was supposed to be P and it came back as E? I can’t 100% tell from the OP.
Sorry, it was Test E. Came back as expected.
Awesome, was just concerned because I have a bunch of EP Test P sitting around and it would suck to unknowingly be injecting 250mg Test E every day lol. Also it’d definitely make the results more weird if so, so that’s good to know.
 
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Make a post and @ me IF you end up sending a sample of Gumball’s out to a different testing outfit for verification of result / authentication of EC’s result.
 
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Thanks for getting these done. Definitely need to re-check that Tren/Mast recipe. It was somewhat difficult because of the displacement of the powders are very different and I just took the average of the two. Test E will be easy enough to take care of.
 
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Shit - I didn’t mean to add to the confusion - my original post said EP Test “P” tested as Test E - that was never supposed to be Test P.

For clarification - I ordered, received, and got Test Enanthate tested - it came back as exactly what it was supposed to be.
 
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newpinner" pid='10070' dateline='1524791229:
Quick(ish) backstory:

I recently received a pack after ~30 days from EP, which contained plenty of vials of both his Test E and his TrenA/MastP blend.

During that 30 day wait, I was running close to bare on my own Tren/Mast stock, so I ordered a few vials of TrastP from Gumball, thinking I wouldn’t ever receive my EP order. Between EP’s order arriving and then me ordering lots of TrastP during Gumball’s BOGO sale (plus Energy Control showing up on the scene around the same time), I figured it was best to get these tested.

I mainly wanted to test EP’s stuff since the delay and other issues had me worried, and I figured I’d throw in Gumball’s Trast P since I’m currently sitting on 18-20 vials of it and wanted to make sure it’s legit.

The results:

EP Test E (250mg) - 248mg of Test Enanthate
EP Tren A/Mast P Blend (100mg/100mg) - 127mg Trenbolone Acetate / 96 mg Masteron Propionate
Gumball Labs TrastP - 111mg Trenbolone Acetate

Link to image gallery, in order of results above:
Two more notes:

1.) Unopened vials were opened and 2.5mL of each was drawn into a new syringe, and those three syringes were sent to EC without any details as to what they were supposed to be or what sources they came from. The only marker was that one vial had a piece of tape on it, for my own verification. When I originally emailed EC inquiring about their services, I asked if they could test for blends - they said yes. When they first tested the compounds, I got an email saying none of them were blends - they must have remembered me asking, as I did not give them that information after the initial question about services. Anyway, I asked for them to re-test them to double check for any blends, and they came back and said that they found one (that ended up being the EP blend).

2.) Energy Control was great to work with, I sent the samples out Friday and had the results back today, with constant communication during every step of the way. I highly recommend them for any lab testing, and will definitely be using them again in the future. I’m sure it was just another day at the office to them, but it’s wild to me that with no indication of what they had, they were able to accurately identify the compounds.

Anyway, ask any questions you may have and I’ll get to them tomorrow (close to bedtime now).
Why did you post this in BloodWork? You got lab tests on products.
 
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“EnergyControl” pid=‘10200’ dateline=‘1524858564’ said:
“Gumball_Labs” pid=‘10093’ dateline=‘1524806188’ said:
“It’s easy to jump on the hate train when you’re selling product that isn’t what it says (which I don’t think is the first instance based on a couple bloods I’ve seen)”

Hahaha. I see why you would have to say this, but have you actually read a proper “bad” review on our gear? If you did, did you read all the comments? It always come back with an apology to me and a statement reading “my bad, it was a fuck up on the labs end.”

So you know: There are ZERO bad reviews on us. (FACT)

As for me “selling product that isn’t what it says.”
I’m hoping this exact BLEND will be tested from someone who knows what they are doing and confirms that you are full of shit. A ban would be in order (I mean, whats a lab testing company worth without credibility?)

I bet the Mg is off on my Tren and EP’s Tren (you can tell from his comment of “Definitely need to re-check that Tren/Mast recipe.”

Nobody is going to overdose their Tren by that much. At least not a source.

“We just finished a bunch of back and forth with Jano who has actually offered some great advice to help us improve in the future. :)

Lol, if you knew what you were doing, you wouldn’t need someone teaching you how to do your job properly.
 
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