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Energy Control Lab Results: Enhanced Pharma and Gumball Labs

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Really immature and overly defensive responses from Gumball tbh. Unexpected and unprofessional to say the least. There was no reason to come in all huffy puffy immediately trying to discredit the results by attacking the testing company with unsubstantiated claims about whether or not they know what they’re doing. Not to mention the foolish claim made was entirely wrong “no source is gonna overdose their tren by that much!!” (acting as if that’s a reason to discredit EC’s testing) when we just had TX Mass Tren A come back @ near 130 mg (citation found in the post above) from a different testing company. It’s cool to be skeptical and to request a retest or a sample to be sent elsewhere, but why act like a complete know-it-all snob and make inaccurate statements in an attempt to discredit them? That’s not how normal, mature adults should interact.
 

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kingofcarbz" pid='10833' dateline='1525181290:
Really immature and overly defensive responses from Gumball tbh. Unexpected and unprofessional to say the least. There was no reason to come in all huffy puffy immediately trying to discredit the results by attacking the testing company with unsubstantiated claims about whether or not they know what they’re doing. Not to mention the foolish claim made was entirely wrong “no source is gonna overdose their tren by that much!!” (acting as if that’s a reason to discredit EC’s testing) when we just had TX Mass Tren A come back @ near 130 mg (citation found in the post above) from a different testing company. It’s cool to be skeptical and to request a retest or a sample to be sent elsewhere, but why act like a complete know-it-all snob and make inaccurate statements in an attempt to discredit them? That’s not how normal, mature adults should interact.
I agree with you here. It makes the whole scenario kinda sketch now. He abruptly stop sourcing after about 2 weeks of gloating around on here. A couple questionably low responding blood tests and now this. I don’t see how the test can be THAT wrong?? it would’ve at least picked up another compound. But nothing was even detected. Kinda disappointing.
 
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kingofcarbz" pid='10833' dateline='1525181290:
Really immature and overly defensive responses from Gumball tbh. Unexpected and unprofessional to say the least. There was no reason to come in all huffy puffy immediately trying to discredit the results by attacking the testing company with unsubstantiated claims about whether or not they know what they’re doing. Not to mention the foolish claim made was entirely wrong “no source is gonna overdose their tren by that much!!” (acting as if that’s a reason to discredit EC’s testing) when we just had TX Mass Tren A come back @ near 130 mg (citation found in the post above) from a different testing company. It’s cool to be skeptical and to request a retest or a sample to be sent elsewhere, but why act like a complete know-it-all snob and make inaccurate statements in an attempt to discredit them? That’s not how normal, mature adults should interact.
“immediately trying to discredit the results by attacking the testing company with unsubstantiated claims about whether or not they know what they’re doing.”

I had a long email conversation with OP before he even posted the results. Even he was skeptical of the results, but he didn’t post that information…

Read the first page of comments. Multiple people were already saying they were skeptical of EC’s testing abilities. So it’s not just me throwing out new accusations.

They tested all 3 and found no blends. This is a red flag from a company who is being trusted to give accurate results 100% of the time. THIS IS MANDETORY FOR A TESTING COMPANY, no if, ands, or buts about it.

They straight up told OP that there were no blends found! If he didn’t say re-test it, that would have been the results for both the blends.

The MG is even wrong on my Tren. (Red flag #2)

This is what EC wrote to me:

“It’s easy to jump on the hate train when you’re selling product that isn’t what it says (which I don’t think is the first instance based on a couple bloods I’ve seen)” (Red flag #3)

We have ZERO bad blood tests on this board. 2 of them look bad, but are explained in the comments.

The only reason he would throw a jab like this is to try and take down my credibility. I mean, if it comes back that he is wrong here, he will be considered useless as a testing company.

As for me saying no source would dose that high…

I think logically. The goal is to keep it at or slightly above 100mg. Why? Profit margins. The money stacks up when you dose it 30mg over. That 30mg costs $1.17 per vial (if you get Tren for less than 4k/kg) and for what? Most people won’t even notice the difference.

I guess I should have said “bigger labs won’t dose that high.”

Of course I’m gonna go into defense mode. I have 1 customer saying there is no Tren in this blend (anecdotal review that lead to this) and now I have some new Test company that has nothing but red flags talking shit about me.

“why act like a complete know-it-all snob and make inaccurate statements in an attempt to discredit them?”

I’m sorry, did I miss something here?

I don’t think my original comments were out of line.
 
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Really immature and overly defensive responses from Gumball tbh. Unexpected and unprofessional to say the least. There was no reason to come in all huffy puffy immediately trying to discredit the results by attacking the testing company with unsubstantiated claims about whether or not they know what they’re doing. Not to mention the foolish claim made was entirely wrong “no source is gonna overdose their tren by that much!!” (acting as if that’s a reason to discredit EC’s testing) when we just had TX Mass Tren A come back @ near 130 mg (citation found in the post above) from a different testing company. It’s cool to be skeptical and to request a retest or a sample to be sent elsewhere, but why act like a complete know-it-all snob and make inaccurate statements in an attempt to discredit them? That’s not how normal, mature adults should interact.
Not to mention that people are sending this guy blind samples and getting accurate results.
 
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So Gumballs Trast P is just Tren A, no Mast P…and it’s overdosed? I’ve been on almost 900mg of Tren A then, I have no idea how I’m not batshit insane right now lmao.
Haha. I don’t know how you’re not either. Tren turns me into a werewolf, and I wasn’t running anything close to what you are.
 
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Why is this thread resurrected?? EC is a scamming faggot. He’s been linked to several schemes and fucking sources over for free gear, bitcoin and tarnishing their names with fake (photoshopped) bloods. This guy has had several accounts and they were all linked by proactive members and mods.

Gumball left on good terms and was one of the top sources of SST for several years. Nothing but respect for the dude. He was kind of a prick tho 😉
 
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