Extreme lethargy on MENT / Trestolone Ace

[magRT496]

Whats up guys, Ive ran my fair share of cycles but this one has thrown me for a loop. Im currently on week 4 of …

Anadrol 50mg days 1-30
Sustanon 150mg eod 1-10
Ment 50mg eod 1-10
Ru-58841 for hairloss - 25mg before bed

I felt great the first few weeks - appetite was up as well as motivation and gym intensity. I did notice I was a little more tired than usual throughout the day but otherwise fine. About 2 weeks ago I started getting serious fatigue, even with plenty of sleep I just wanted to lay in bed, except when it came time to lift. I wake up with major brain fog and feel comatose for half the day. This turned into anhedonia - money and work are usually big motivators but now I avoid work like the plague and could care less about money. I just seem to gas out way faster when trying to focus too and need lots of breaks. Initially I blamed the drol and the Ru and dropped both 10 days ago but now it’s gotten even worse. I also have minor night sweats and insomnia started 3-4 days ago, so it has to be the ment.

I took .125mg of anastrozole yet somehow my joints feel dry and clicky - very strange.

I also tried .25mg of caber yesterday which has not helped yet.

I really dont want to drop the ment because I’m loving the gains but I’m having trouble getting work done. Otherwise I feel calmer than ever. No anxiety or temper, etc. Any chance the caber will kick in and mitigate this? It feels like the 19-nor activity is driving up prolactin which is suppressing my dopamine system. I’m prescribed adderall for inattentive adhd and lately its useless for motivation and focus. I can take my regular dose and take a nap… except when its time to sleep I am restless.

Also no gyno that I can tell but im on ralox. the outer edge may have grown a little but no lactation or pain. My skin is much more oily than usual but zero acne or any of my other high e2 sides. Sorry for the book but never felt this way on a cycle, thanks for the help bros.

 

[misfitzillah]

The one reason I’m skeptical to try ment is the e2 sides, I’m having very similar issue right now with just test and dbol & I don’t even want to train, I was recommended to add an AI back in, I stopped them because I’m not the nicest guy with low estrogen but oh well I have to accomplish things. Maybe try a full arimidex instead of a small dose

 

[lynxpoint]

You need a shit load of AI for ment. Everyone is different but at 50mg you cant except to use .125mg adex one time and be fine lol.

For reference I aromatize pretty high, on 20mg daily trest, I need 0.5mg-1mg adex PER DAY just to not get high e2 symptoms.

Your E2 is probably sky fucking high hence the lethargy. It’s pretty simple, take more AI.

 

[myrongaines]

Ment is odd. I believe it aromatizes into methylestradiol which is less responsive to AI. So between the Ment, trest, and AI you could end up with high and low e2 symptoms at the same time. I have less issues controlling estrogen if I keep test low. I can run ment up to 30mg/day with no AI at trt dose. At 600/20 test/ment I need aromasin eod.

 

[magRT496]

@myrongaines That makes a lot of sense. I think ill try lowering my test dose. Thank you bro.

Update - Despite dry lips and joint pain, I took another dose of arimidex @ .25mg and a some of the anhedonia and the lethargy faded. I still didnt feel right so I skipped the sust and ment for 5 days and so far have felt a lot better. Im much more motivated and feeling inspired to be productive. But them gains… think ill start the ment again but cut the sust dose back.