Feeling really lonely and down lately

[CamelCrewBodybuilder]

I’m 25 and I’ve never been in a relationship or had a girlfriend, lately I’ve been feeling very lonely and depressed. I’ve never really tried asking out a girl that I liked so I know you will tell me to start with that. Now what I have noticed is that I see ugly and fat guys with really good girlfriends and I’m not hating or judging them just describing what is it that I’m seeing. What is it that I’m lacking?? I’m here to just vent because I really have nobody to talk to about this. I mean I’m in school (nursing school), I’m big and I work 2 jobs. Maybe I just need to get out more and meet people? But where do I go? Bars? Clubs? With who? I just want to experience love during my young years because I know I won’t get these years back when I’m older and looking back and regretting all of it. I was raised in a household where boyfriend/girlfriend thing is looked down upon and now I’m older and not living at home but I’m not sure what the problem is?? Should I see a therapist? I’m just lost! Didn’t mean to make this long and I hope it doesn’t get removed. I should also add that I’m a nice guy, I mean I can be an asshole but around girls I’m nice, do females not like that?? Should I be an asshole to them? Lastly I should say I do like this one girl in school and out of all the girls in the program she is single and def wifey material and we are kinda like friends, will it mess up what we have if I try to ask her out?

Thanks, all advice appreciated

 

[Harbenger]

Ask her out, all she can say is no. Try again with another girl. Do not give up.

How is that estrogen? I’m always reading that mood swings come with estrogen levels.

 

[CamelCrewBodybuilder]

Harbenger" pid='61186' dateline='1563333935:

Ask her out, all she can say is no. Try again with another girl. Do not give up.

How is that estrogen? I’m always reading that mood swings come with estrogen levels.

I’m not taking anything, I’ve never taken anything either. However I’ve been feeling very tired, down I don’t know how to explain it. I’m not feeling myself lately. I’m not focused. I don’t know, something just doesn’t feel right. However I just joined the site to get my hands on some stuff and build up a really good body.

 

[nlite2k]

just start asking girls out, don’t be a creep about it, but you have to knock on a lot of doors. You’ll get over fear of rejection through a mixture of getting rejected (it’s gonna happen, more often than not, no matter how good looking or smooth you are) and some successful lays.

I think you ought to focus on getting laid over getting a girlfriend, focusing on the former will get you the latter eventually.

Tinder is useful.

You don’t have to be an asshole to get girls, assholes get a lot of girls because they exhibit a lot of “idgaf” behaviour by default, which girls tend to find attractive. They’re clear about what they want, and not afraid to walk away if they’re not getting what they want from a girl. Both of those things are more attractive to an attractive female than being a sad sack nice guy. You can learn how to do that without being an asshole. Women also tend to be able to sniff out if you’re faking shit like that, so don’t bother trying to be an asshole. Just be yourself, but a more confident version of yourself who can take it or leave it.

Here’s a tidbit that I wish I had figured out a lot sooner, like, when I was 12: If a girl likes you, she’ll make it easy. If she doesn’t make it easy, find somebody who does. You’ll get more tail and less heartbreak that way.

 

[DNPstoney]

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Harbenger" pid='61186' dateline='1563333935:

Ask her out, all she can say is no. Try again with another girl. Do not give up.

How is that estrogen? I’m always reading that mood swings come with estrogen levels.

I’m not taking anything, I’ve never taken anything either. However I’ve been feeling very tired, down I don’t know how to explain it. I’m not feeling myself lately. I’m not focused. I don’t know, something just doesn’t feel right. However I just joined the site to get my hands on some stuff and build up a really good body.

Yeah man - don’t. You aren’t in the right mental state to start cycling or commit to BnC. At the most; get a bloodtest to find out what is going on with your hormones; you will want a pre-cycle test anyway.

Yeah, see a therapist if you are that conflicted. It seems like you are just in school, feeling a bit lonely, and feel directionless. That is not a reason to start taking AAS.

Or just don’t listen to me, and start AAS anyway. I would say you are more likely to regret it than if you waited and made an educated decision, but w/e. It is your life, not mine.

“I should also add that I’m a nice guy”

Lol. Seems like you have a lot of learning to do. I would start doing a lot of reading, then transition into the real world. I don’t think AAS are going to do for you want you think they are.

 

[nlite2k]

And yeah, ask the girl you like out. If she rejects you, be cordial and find somebody else.

 

[yelruP]

Hey man! If you need someone to talk to I’m here. If you wanna make a wickr we can talk there, or we can just reply to each other on this thread if you’d like!

I know how it feels to be lonely. Sometimes you just gotta get yourself out there. After I got clean I struggled with meeting people so one day I got sick of it and just started talking to every cute girl I could. You don’t have to do what I did but you should try to put yourself out there. Rejection is part of life! Don’t be afraid of it. A Simple hello can start a conversation, just smile and be yourself. Again, I’m here if you want a friend to talk to. Things do get better, so just stay positive.

 

[nlite2k]

yelruP" pid='61194' dateline='1563335516:

Hey man! If you need someone to talk to I’m here. If you wanna make a wickr we can talk there, or we can just reply to each other on this thread if you’d like!

I know how it feels to be lonely. Sometimes you just gotta get yourself out there. After I got clean I struggled with meeting people so one day I got sick of it and just started talking to every cute girl I could. You don’t have to do what I did but you should try to put yourself out there. Rejection is part of life! Don’t be afraid of it. A Simple hello can start a conversation, just smile and be yourself. Again, I’m here if you want a friend to talk to. Things do get better, so just stay positive.

I had a real tough time when I got sober with meeting women. Women in recovery seemed like a disaster (still a rule I stand by) and without going out drinking, I had literally no idea how to go about getting laid. It was something I just fell ass backwards into when I was drinking/doing drugs. I literally had to learn how to cold approach, and talk to girls out of my comfort zone, at the mall, supermarket etc etc. The best advice I ever got was just pretend everybody is 80 years old. You know how you’re compelled to say hello to old people?

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^The reason I say women in recovery are a “disaster” is that they often have so much (ugly sexual)baggage, and I don’t feel like I’m the right guy for them. You hear enough stories and your heart breaks.

 

[Primobro]

Bro you’re thinking too much, which is completely normal but you need to get over that. You need to “fake it till ya make it” with the confidence and females. Do not be arrogant or cocky but be sure of yourself and don’t be a pussy, girls don’t like pussies. In all seriousness you’re at a tough age (assuming early 20’s) where most people focus on looks and not so much inner character. During this time I agree that you should focus on getting laid as the gf will come sooner or later. You need to start with small doses and ask some of your classmates to casually grab a drink or something then work your way up to asking the girl you like on a date. I know it’s easier said than done but ALL of us guys have dealt with this to a certain degree at some point in our lives.

 

[CamelCrewBodybuilder]

DNPstoney" pid='61190' dateline='1563334715:

CamelCrewBodybuilder" pid='61187' dateline='1563334332:

Harbenger" pid='61186' dateline='1563333935:

Ask her out, all she can say is no. Try again with another girl. Do not give up.

How is that estrogen? I’m always reading that mood swings come with estrogen levels.

I’m not taking anything, I’ve never taken anything either. However I’ve been feeling very tired, down I don’t know how to explain it. I’m not feeling myself lately. I’m not focused. I don’t know, something just doesn’t feel right. However I just joined the site to get my hands on some stuff and build up a really good body.

Yeah man - don’t. You aren’t in the right mental state to start cycling or commit to BnC. At the most; get a bloodtest to find out what is going on with your hormones; you will want a pre-cycle test anyway.

Yeah, see a therapist if you are that conflicted. It seems like you are just in school, feeling a bit lonely, and feel directionless. That is not a reason to start taking AAS.

Or just don’t listen to me, and start AAS anyway. I would say you are more likely to regret it than if you waited and made an educated decision, but w/e. It is your life, not mine.

“I should also add that I’m a nice guy”

Lol. Seems like you have a lot of learning to do. I would start doing a lot of reading, then transition into the real world. I don’t think AAS are going to do for you want you think they are.

Not trying to start an argument and thanks for your input but…

I never said that AAS would do me any good in the dating/live department. What do you mean I have a lot of learning to do? Are you talking about reading about AAS? I’ve done my research for the last 3-4 years and I’ve waited until my mid 20s. I’m doing fine in school and work and I’m just inexperienced in the love and dating department. I’ve worked several jobs putting in 50-70 hours a week and lived and seen a lot of things. I just neglected myself when it came to talking to girls and dating so now I’m getting older and lonely. That is all.

 

[cmlaracy]

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DNPstoney" pid='61190' dateline='1563334715:

CamelCrewBodybuilder" pid='61187' dateline='1563334332:

Harbenger" pid='61186' dateline='1563333935:

Ask her out, all she can say is no. Try again with another girl. Do not give up.

How is that estrogen? I’m always reading that mood swings come with estrogen levels.

I’m not taking anything, I’ve never taken anything either. However I’ve been feeling very tired, down I don’t know how to explain it. I’m not feeling myself lately. I’m not focused. I don’t know, something just doesn’t feel right. However I just joined the site to get my hands on some stuff and build up a really good body.

Yeah man - don’t. You aren’t in the right mental state to start cycling or commit to BnC. At the most; get a bloodtest to find out what is going on with your hormones; you will want a pre-cycle test anyway.

Yeah, see a therapist if you are that conflicted. It seems like you are just in school, feeling a bit lonely, and feel directionless. That is not a reason to start taking AAS.

Or just don’t listen to me, and start AAS anyway. I would say you are more likely to regret it than if you waited and made an educated decision, but w/e. It is your life, not mine.

“I should also add that I’m a nice guy”

Lol. Seems like you have a lot of learning to do. I would start doing a lot of reading, then transition into the real world. I don’t think AAS are going to do for you want you think they are.

Not trying to start an argument and thanks for your input but…

I never said that AAS would do me any good in the dating/live department. What do you mean I have a lot of learning to do? Are you talking about reading about AAS? I’ve done my research for the last 3-4 years and I’ve waited until my mid 20s. I’m doing fine in school and work and I’m just inexperienced in the love and dating department. I’ve worked several jobs putting in 50-70 hours a week and lived and seen a lot of things. I just neglected myself when it came to talking to girls and dating so now I’m getting older and lonely. That is all.

He meant that in the real world anyone who says “I’m a nice guy” is usually a piece of shit. Now, I don’t think you are, you DO seem like a nice guy. But if you say “I’m a nice guy” people are going to immediately red-flag you in their head. It’s a pretty well known social trope that you should know by now. Thats what he meant *I think lol

Best of luck man, you’ll do fine, just get out there and talk to people and act confident until you actually feel confident. Chin up dawg, we all make it.

 

[DNPstoney]

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CamelCrewBodybuilder" pid='61198' dateline='1563336629:

DNPstoney" pid='61190' dateline='1563334715:

CamelCrewBodybuilder" pid='61187' dateline='1563334332:

Harbenger" pid='61186' dateline='1563333935:

Ask her out, all she can say is no. Try again with another girl. Do not give up.

How is that estrogen? I’m always reading that mood swings come with estrogen levels.

I’m not taking anything, I’ve never taken anything either. However I’ve been feeling very tired, down I don’t know how to explain it. I’m not feeling myself lately. I’m not focused. I don’t know, something just doesn’t feel right. However I just joined the site to get my hands on some stuff and build up a really good body.

Yeah man - don’t. You aren’t in the right mental state to start cycling or commit to BnC. At the most; get a bloodtest to find out what is going on with your hormones; you will want a pre-cycle test anyway.

Yeah, see a therapist if you are that conflicted. It seems like you are just in school, feeling a bit lonely, and feel directionless. That is not a reason to start taking AAS.

Or just don’t listen to me, and start AAS anyway. I would say you are more likely to regret it than if you waited and made an educated decision, but w/e. It is your life, not mine.

“I should also add that I’m a nice guy”

Lol. Seems like you have a lot of learning to do. I would start doing a lot of reading, then transition into the real world. I don’t think AAS are going to do for you want you think they are.

Not trying to start an argument and thanks for your input but…

I never said that AAS would do me any good in the dating/live department. What do you mean I have a lot of learning to do? Are you talking about reading about AAS? I’ve done my research for the last 3-4 years and I’ve waited until my mid 20s. I’m doing fine in school and work and I’m just inexperienced in the love and dating department. I’ve worked several jobs putting in 50-70 hours a week and lived and seen a lot of things. I just neglected myself when it came to talking to girls and dating so now I’m getting older and lonely. That is all.

He meant that in the real world anyone who says “I’m a nice guy” is usually a piece of shit. Now, I don’t think you are, you DO seem like a nice guy. But if you say “I’m a nice guy” people are going to immediately red-flag you in their head. It’s a pretty well known social trope that you should know by now. Thats what he meant *I think lol

Best of luck man, you’ll do fine, just get out there and talk to people and act confident until you actually feel confident. Chin up dawg, we all make it.

That is pretty much exactly what I meant. And further, men who call themselves “nice guys” normally do it because they put women on a pedestal. They are going out of their way to appear “nice” to them, instead of actually just treating them like people, or potential bang/life partners.

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CamelCrewBodybuilder" pid='61198' dateline='1563336629:

DNPstoney" pid='61190' dateline='1563334715:

CamelCrewBodybuilder" pid='61187' dateline='1563334332:

Harbenger" pid='61186' dateline='1563333935:

Ask her out, all she can say is no. Try again with another girl. Do not give up.

How is that estrogen? I’m always reading that mood swings come with estrogen levels.

I’m not taking anything, I’ve never taken anything either. However I’ve been feeling very tired, down I don’t know how to explain it. I’m not feeling myself lately. I’m not focused. I don’t know, something just doesn’t feel right. However I just joined the site to get my hands on some stuff and build up a really good body.

Yeah man - don’t. You aren’t in the right mental state to start cycling or commit to BnC. At the most; get a bloodtest to find out what is going on with your hormones; you will want a pre-cycle test anyway.

Yeah, see a therapist if you are that conflicted. It seems like you are just in school, feeling a bit lonely, and feel directionless. That is not a reason to start taking AAS.

Or just don’t listen to me, and start AAS anyway. I would say you are more likely to regret it than if you waited and made an educated decision, but w/e. It is your life, not mine.

“I should also add that I’m a nice guy”

Lol. Seems like you have a lot of learning to do. I would start doing a lot of reading, then transition into the real world. I don’t think AAS are going to do for you want you think they are.

Not trying to start an argument and thanks for your input but…

I never said that AAS would do me any good in the dating/live department. What do you mean I have a lot of learning to do? Are you talking about reading about AAS? I’ve done my research for the last 3-4 years and I’ve waited until my mid 20s. I’m doing fine in school and work and I’m just inexperienced in the love and dating department. I’ve worked several jobs putting in 50-70 hours a week and lived and seen a lot of things. I just neglected myself when it came to talking to girls and dating so now I’m getting older and lonely. That is all.

I was not stating that I think you are planning on using AAS specifically because of your dating life or anything about your knowledge about AAS, sorry if I insinuated that. Though, looking into it for 3-4 years and still having similar questions either leads me to think you are trying to reinvent the wheel or are just ignoring information which doesn’t line up with your train of thought. Or, you could be using poor sources or just not be devoting much time to researching and planning it out. Either way, that wasn’t the point I was trying to make.

I would not advise you to begin taking AAS when you are feeling so conflicted about your everyday life. It seems like you are really at a crossroad in life, and I would suggest that you work on figuring it out. AAS are not going to magically make you feel better. You complain:

“However I’ve been feeling very tired, down I don’t know how to explain it. I’m not feeling myself lately. I’m not focused.”

That does not sound like a very good place to throw AAS in the mix. In fact, due to some learning curve with dialing in certain things, you will likely end up feeling worse. Like I said; I wouldn’t suggest it, but it is your life and you can choose to live it how you like.

I referenced school because I think you are making strides in life. You might feel lonely and down now, but it sounds like if you keep your head down for a bit longer, you will finish your schooling and be able to start your career. I know it seems like everyone in their youth is living it up and having a blast, but having fun in your youth isn’t worth sacrificing your career and health in your 30s and beyond.

You have gotten a ton of good advice from posters here, and a few have offered to reach out and help you. I would definitely take advantage of that and try to get more personalized advice. Lots of have been at the stage you are at or lower. Take the help offered, it will do you a lot of good.

 

[Masterofron]

What the hell is “ugly sexual baggage”?

If it means what what I think it means, which is how many guys they’ve fucked, then who the hell cares. Those things shouldn’t concern you. If they do seem concerning or like they’d be an issue for yourself m then your just dealing with the wrong type of woman.

 

[nlite2k]

Masterofron" pid='61223' dateline='1563359619:

What the hell is “ugly sexual baggage”?

If it means what what I think it means, which is how many guys they’ve fucked, then who the hell cares. Those things shouldn’t concern you. If they do seem concerning or like they’d be an issue for yourself m then your just dealing with the wrong type of woman.

Nah,I don’t care about promiscuity, especially in somebody’s past. Somebody’s “past” is up to and including the day I meet them.

I’m talking about girls who’ve been abused. It’s not…uncommon among women in recovery. It’s not that I feel like they’re broken or no good, or whatever. It’s that it literally breaks my heart that it’s a pain I can’t fix, or make go away. I just don’t think “I avoid romantic entanglements women with histories of substance abuse” is an outlandish thing. I feel like I would do the same if I were a gay dude or a female of any persuasion. Some girls won’t date guys who are under 6 feet tall, I tend to avoid dating women who are active or former substance abusers.

 

[don_c]

bro relationships are like a job or hobby…

#1 you have to try (put yourself out there)
#2 you will fail… but keep trying
#3 you will learn from each experience
#4 you will have ups and downs
#5 you will improve over time

but it all starts with #1!!! if you don’t try then you’ll never get a yes.

oh and where to go…

the best place to meet girls is going to be somewhere that you go regularly, not a night at the bar or club. by meeting a girl during your daily or weekly routine, you will have a commonality and increased trust without having to do anything. if you meet a girl at a bar or club then you’re basically starting from scratch and it’s not the best environment.

#1 the gym (find a time where there are a lot of girls and go at the same time every day. be polite and friendly. rack your weights. clean up after yourself. work hard. after a while say hello to people or ask how their day is going but leave it at that. they will start to recognize you and consider you a part their daily routine. then go from there.)

#2 dog park (you need a dog for this, obviously. but tons of girls. once again, a lot of people go at the same time every day.)

#3 coffee shops, cafes, etc. (find a good location where you can regularly go to work on the computer or get a bite to eat. just post up at the same spot a couple days out of the week and enjoy your day. if you see someone that catches your eye say hello… ask how their day is going… make some small conversation then leave it at that. i can’t tell you how many times i’ve done this with hot waitresses at restaurants… a lot of my meals have ended up being free and i’ve even gotten a chick fired because she kept giving me free shit!)

anyways man… once again it’s all about trying, failing, learning, trying again, etc. don’t be too hard on yourself.

oh and as a last thought… something i heard on mtv cribs when i was like 10 years old, “if you look good and smell good then someone’s going to notice you.” i’ve found that to be true too! lol!

 

[Masterofron]

nlite2k" pid='61225' dateline='1563364049:

Masterofron" pid='61223' dateline='1563359619:

What the hell is “ugly sexual baggage”?

If it means what what I think it means, which is how many guys they’ve fucked, then who the hell cares. Those things shouldn’t concern you. If they do seem concerning or like they’d be an issue for yourself m then your just dealing with the wrong type of woman.

Nah,I don’t care about promiscuity, especially in somebody’s past. Somebody’s “past” is up to and including the day I meet them.

I’m talking about girls who’ve been abused. It’s not…uncommon among women in recovery. It’s not that I feel like they’re broken or no good, or whatever. It’s that it literally breaks my heart that it’s a pain I can’t fix, or make go away. I just don’t think “I avoid romantic entanglements women with histories of substance abuse” is an outlandish thing. I feel like I would do the same if I were a gay dude or a female of any persuasion. Some girls won’t date guys who are under 6 feet tall, I tend to avoid dating women who are active or former substance abusers.

It’s not outlandish it’s just an absurd standard. The love of your life could have been a meth addict 5 years ago… you never know. Some people make mistakes and move on from them entirely, as if they had never happened. The more requirements you have, the less likely it is that you’ll find anybody who’s worth your time.

 

[don_c]

Masterofron" pid='61232' dateline='1563372132:

nlite2k" pid='61225' dateline='1563364049:

Masterofron" pid='61223' dateline='1563359619:

What the hell is “ugly sexual baggage”?

If it means what what I think it means, which is how many guys they’ve fucked, then who the hell cares. Those things shouldn’t concern you. If they do seem concerning or like they’d be an issue for yourself m then your just dealing with the wrong type of woman.

Nah,I don’t care about promiscuity, especially in somebody’s past. Somebody’s “past” is up to and including the day I meet them.

I’m talking about girls who’ve been abused. It’s not…uncommon among women in recovery. It’s not that I feel like they’re broken or no good, or whatever. It’s that it literally breaks my heart that it’s a pain I can’t fix, or make go away. I just don’t think “I avoid romantic entanglements women with histories of substance abuse” is an outlandish thing. I feel like I would do the same if I were a gay dude or a female of any persuasion. Some girls won’t date guys who are under 6 feet tall, I tend to avoid dating women who are active or former substance abusers.

It’s not outlandish it’s just an absurd standard. The love of your life could have been a meth addict 5 years ago… you never know. Some people make mistakes and move on from them entirely, as if they had never happened. The more requirements you have, the less likely it is that you’ll find anybody who’s worth your time.

that’s called maturity bro! thank god people don’t judge me based on who i was 8 years ago because i’ve lived a lot of life and some of it doesn’t look good on paper!

i used to judge girls based on shit like that. the girl i’m dating now is covered in tattoos and is a hair stylist. back in the day i would have dismissed her because she didn’t meet my “standards”. but she’s one of the sweetest girls i’ve ever met. extremely caring and goes out of her way to help me and other people without expecting anything in return. i don’t care what or who did she 5 years ago. all that matters is who she is now. she’s also financially independent and has huge fake tits!!!

 

[pano100]

Same bro, I don’t know what love is. I feel frustrated about it and I don’t know how to work on it. I know I’m not ugly, I had some girls approached to me. Even guys tried to hit on me. But the thing is that I don’t know how to react because all of my life I feel alone. I tried to talk to my family and they said the same bullshit, you have nothing. It’s like nobody can understand how I feel. But I won’t give up and one day I will see and feel the love. All I need is a hug and nobody wants to support me. I have being a good person all of my life. But apparently that doesn’t work in this world.

Keep it up, you’re not alone.

 

[Zombpacalypse]

For sure ask that girl out. If you’re nervous ask her to lunch. Going on a lunch date is precieved as less serious than a dinner/night date. This can allow you to have a good stress free conversation with her. Talk to her, if you’re nervous do a lot of listening. Ask her questions and follow up questions so she knows you’re listening and you care about what she has to talk about. Keep that first conversation light and just try to feel the situation out and you’ll be comfortable by the end.

If everything goes well ask her on another date somewhat quickly. Get her number. Text her without blowing up her phone. No dick pics.

If she’s not interested in a date when you ask her well that sucks, it happens, gotta suck it up and move on. Dating can be a numbers game sometimes. Don’t get discouraged and keep asking girls out. It won’t always go well but it will never work if you don’t try. Just gotta keep doing it and get comfortable with the whole process.

Best of luck my dude,
Zom

 

[grognstuff]

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yelruP" pid='61194' dateline='1563335516:

Hey man! If you need someone to talk to I’m here. If you wanna make a wickr we can talk there, or we can just reply to each other on this thread if you’d like!

I know how it feels to be lonely. Sometimes you just gotta get yourself out there. After I got clean I struggled with meeting people so one day I got sick of it and just started talking to every cute girl I could. You don’t have to do what I did but you should try to put yourself out there. Rejection is part of life! Don’t be afraid of it. A Simple hello can start a conversation, just smile and be yourself. Again, I’m here if you want a friend to talk to. Things do get better, so just stay positive.

I had a real tough time when I got sober with meeting women. Women in recovery seemed like a disaster (still a rule I stand by) and without going out drinking, I had literally no idea how to go about getting laid. It was something I just fell ass backwards into when I was drinking/doing drugs. I literally had to learn how to cold approach, and talk to girls out of my comfort zone, at the mall, supermarket etc etc. The best advice I ever got was just pretend everybody is 80 years old. You know how you’re compelled to say hello to old people?

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^The reason I say women in recovery are a “disaster” is that they often have so much (ugly sexual)baggage, and I don’t feel like I’m the right guy for them. You hear enough stories and your heart breaks.

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LOL…I’m going on 9 years sober and fuck it was real hard to start dating again after getting sober.

Luckily, sobriety involves a lot of meetings and self-improvement, which helps a lot with confidence and being NGAF when taking to strangers.

Read, “The Game” by Neil Strauss, OP. It’s a hilarious book, and will give you a little window into how losers figured out how to pickup girls when they were not a natural at approaching women.

Just like you can change the way you look, you can also chsnge the way you act and the way people perceive you. You can learn how to make people attracted to you, but it takes a lot of hard work, just like building muscle.