I lol’dSo if your ugl has an opiate business on the side you might want to avoid taking anything from them.
"During the second search, investigators found the following:
three liters of suspected liquid fentanyl.
four pounds of suspected anabolic steroid powder.
tens of thousands of various unidentified pills.
several hundred vials of suspected liquid fentanyl and liquid anabolic steroids."
the smallest amount of carfentanyl can kill you. There are even unconfirmed reports of people dying upon making skin contactOne good thing everyone is fentanyl is very strong so maybe each bottle or batch of orals we get just pin small amount or take half a tab at first pretty sure we will know if there is something in it. I do this anyways with new sources just for allergy testing. Although just thought of that 1 tab in the bag that could have whatever in it ?.
this makes zero sense. you want a source who potentially is also selling opiates cut with fentanyl to test their steroids to see if they are also cut with fentanyl? uhh lolIs it possible for sources to test or have their products tested for fent? Or would that be too much work/expense?
Ok first you can’t die from touching fent. The technology used for transdermal gent patches took decades to develop. On top of that think about the supply line. The person making it would die, the person bagging it would die, the people who use it everyday would die. There would literally be a lot more deaths just from exposure. In fact you wouldn’t even need to inject it you could just pour it all over your body.10gramsuvtrenEOD" pid='6642' dateline='1523323874:
the smallest amount of carfentanyl can kill you. There are even unconfirmed reports of people dying upon making skin contactOne good thing everyone is fentanyl is very strong so maybe each bottle or batch of orals we get just pin small amount or take half a tab at first pretty sure we will know if there is something in it. I do this anyways with new sources just for allergy testing. Although just thought of that 1 tab in the bag that could have whatever in it ?.
For some dumb reason I was thinking that the raws coming from China were the issue when I posted that. I have no clue why because I know that isn’t the case. MY BAD LOLkingofcarbz" pid='6578' dateline='1523309937:
this makes zero sense. you want a source who potentially is also selling opiates cut with fentanyl to test their steroids to see if they are also cut with fentanyl? uhh lolIs it possible for sources to test or have their products tested for fent? Or would that be too much work/expense?
carfent is for tranquilizing elephants, certainly not prescribed to humans. But you do have some valid pointsbigmamba" pid='6686' dateline='1523339763:
Ok first you can’t die from touching fent. The technology used for transdermal gent patches took decades to develop. On top of that think about the supply line. The person making it would die, the person bagging it would die, the people who use it everyday would die. There would literally be a lot more deaths just from exposure. In fact you wouldn’t even need to inject it you could just pour it all over your body.10gramsuvtrenEOD" pid='6642' dateline='1523323874:
the smallest amount of carfentanyl can kill you. There are even unconfirmed reports of people dying upon making skin contactOne good thing everyone is fentanyl is very strong so maybe each bottle or batch of orals we get just pin small amount or take half a tab at first pretty sure we will know if there is something in it. I do this anyways with new sources just for allergy testing. Although just thought of that 1 tab in the bag that could have whatever in it ?.
Also, if anyone is interested you can buy fent test strips and test your own stuff. In fact the test strips work really well and are super sensitive. Here is an article https://www.futurity.org/fentanyl-test-strips-1673542/
Did not retain the article, but two detectives who entered a drug house where carfentanyl was (unknowingly to them) being cut down into the heroin required narcan shots from limited airborne exposure that caused them to suffer OD-like symptoms rapidly. Short on details, it was in a mainstream media news story a while back.10gramsuvtrenEOD" pid='6642' dateline='1523323874:
the smallest amount of carfentanyl can kill you. There are even unconfirmed reports of people dying upon making skin contactOne good thing everyone is fentanyl is very strong so maybe each bottle or batch of orals we get just pin small amount or take half a tab at first pretty sure we will know if there is something in it. I do this anyways with new sources just for allergy testing. Although just thought of that 1 tab in the bag that could have whatever in it ?.
Yes I’m aware of the article and it states that it may have become airborne which would likely lead to inhalation which means OD. Still can’t OD from touching it. Without exposing myself on here and what I do for a living it’s safe to say I come into contact with fent quite regularly, and not as a drug user, so I’m very familiar with its properties and traits. Whenever we are in any type of new epidemic we see a lot of fear monger stories especially in the news. I remember when HIV epidemic hit and people were dropping everywhere, they used to go into the houses of the deceased in biohazard suits because they were scared that simply being in the same room would cause infection. I actually know of some gear testing positive in Georgia recently for fent so it seems that either there is cross contamination in Chinese factories or cross contamination with sellers in the States. It’s not unreasonable to think that people who sell gear may also have side hustles in more illicit markets. For now I will believe cross contamination and not that someone is intentionally putting fent in gear until I hear otherwise.bigmamba" pid='6686' dateline='1523339763:
Did not retain the article, but two detectives who entered a drug house where carfentanyl was (unknowingly to them) being cut down into the heroin required narcan shots from limited airborne exposure that caused them to suffer OD-like symptoms rapidly. Short on details, it was in a mainstream media news story a while back.10gramsuvtrenEOD" pid='6642' dateline='1523323874:
the smallest amount of carfentanyl can kill you. There are even unconfirmed reports of people dying upon making skin contactOne good thing everyone is fentanyl is very strong so maybe each bottle or batch of orals we get just pin small amount or take half a tab at first pretty sure we will know if there is something in it. I do this anyways with new sources just for allergy testing. Although just thought of that 1 tab in the bag that could have whatever in it ?.
I think cross contamination coming from the source is more worrying than individual labs with side hustles. Considering that pretty much everyone sources their raws from China, perhaps even from the same supplier. And I don’t see anyone providing analysis from Jano anymoreBearslovecheese" pid='6889' dateline='1523400136:
Yes I’m aware of the article and it states that it may have become airborne which would likely lead to inhalation which means OD. Still can’t OD from touching it. Without exposing myself on here and what I do for a living it’s safe to say I come into contact with fent quite regularly, and not as a drug user, so I’m very familiar with its properties and traits. Whenever we are in any type of new epidemic we see a lot of fear monger stories especially in the news. I remember when HIV epidemic hit and people were dropping everywhere, they used to go into the houses of the deceased in biohazard suits because they were scared that simply being in the same room would cause infection. I actually know of some gear testing positive in Georgia recently for fent so it seems that either there is cross contamination in Chinese factories or cross contamination with sellers in the States. It’s not unreasonable to think that people who sell gear may also have side hustles in more illicit markets. For now I will believe cross contamination and not that someone is intentionally putting fent in gear until I hear otherwise.bigmamba" pid='6686' dateline='1523339763:
Did not retain the article, but two detectives who entered a drug house where carfentanyl was (unknowingly to them) being cut down into the heroin required narcan shots from limited airborne exposure that caused them to suffer OD-like symptoms rapidly. Short on details, it was in a mainstream media news story a while back.10gramsuvtrenEOD" pid='6642' dateline='1523323874:
the smallest amount of carfentanyl can kill you. There are even unconfirmed reports of people dying upon making skin contactOne good thing everyone is fentanyl is very strong so maybe each bottle or batch of orals we get just pin small amount or take half a tab at first pretty sure we will know if there is something in it. I do this anyways with new sources just for allergy testing. Although just thought of that 1 tab in the bag that could have whatever in it ?.
ya i volunteer with harm redux and we give out testers for freeAlso, if anyone is interested you can buy fent test strips and test your own stuff. In fact the test strips work really well and are super sensitive. Here is an article https://www.futurity.org/fentanyl-test-strips-1673542/
agreed. what would be the motive? adding it to other drugs that actually get you high makes sense. adding it to your tren? not so muchFor now I will believe cross contamination and not that someone is intentionally putting fent in gear until I hear otherwise.