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Finding raws & melting points. DO, Buck, QSC, TC

hHhcolt49

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I've pretty much run out of next steps. In 4 years I've used around 35 vendors for oils, testing some, & batting around 50%. I've been home brewing also for a year, using 4 raws sources, Tejas, QSC, Dragon ordnance & now Buck. Roughly 20 vials brewed, 12 dif products, At 1st there was awful pip but at this point, with better equipment & exp my vials are smooth, look great & pin nicely. But as always, no active substance & hence a hormonal crash. I don't see what else to improve on. Concentrations are right, it's holding great & there's no excuse other than the raws & I can't believe I'd be 0/12 on raws.

Test Prop, NPP & Deca are what I've made. All seem to dissolve at their melting points, tho DOs stuff liquified much lower than it should've. I go around 2 ba & 18 bb. Use autoclave & magnetic stirring plate. 25-30 mins at melt point. Usually twice filtered. Is it the case that you cant get real raws anymore? Obviously the good vendors do
I asked Synergy, as his oils are great & he refuses to sell raws or say where they're from.
 
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I've pretty much run out of next steps. In 4 years I've used around 35 vendors for oils, testing some, & batting around 50%. I've been home brewing also for a year, using 4 raws sources, Tejas, QSC, Dragon ordnance & now Buck. Roughly 20 vials brewed, 12 dif products, At 1st there was awful pip but at this point, with better equipment & exp my vials are smooth, look great & pin nicely. But as always, no active substance & hence a hormonal crash. I don't see what else to improve on. Concentrations are right, it's holding great & there's no excuse other than the raws & I can't believe I'd be 0/12 on raws.

Test Prop, NPP & Deca are what I've made. All seem to dissolve at their melting points, tho DOs stuff liquified much lower than it should've. I go around 2 ba & 18 bb. Use autoclave & magnetic stirring plate. 25-30 mins at melt point. Usually twice filtered. Is it the case that you cant get real raws anymore? Obviously the good vendors do
I asked Synergy, as his oils are great & he refuses to sell raws or say where they're from.
There is no evidence that hitting melting point is required or even beneficial for brewing.

I'd start with my supplies...change oil brands/suppliers and ba/bb suppliers..
 

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I'm confused. Your saying the oils that you've made don't work at all.?
 

hHhcolt49

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I don't yet know on Bucks NPP & Test P. I'm 5 days into using it. It was the smoothest pinning batch so far. The other 3 were all busts & initially I didn't brew as long or as hot & got horrible pip. Now I'm more concerned of over doing it. Cotton seed also wasn't great for me but Grape seed feels a lot better. I just see so many diff variations with temps & time. Also dif compounds require dif concentrations. Ive went low on ba since I'm not storing for long.
 

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Also ive had no issues with ancillaries. DOs Cialis, Viagra & telmisartan were all good but the oils no. Still high hopes for Bucks stuff.
 

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You didn’t really explain much other than you brewed from 4 different vendors and you got pip but now the pip is going away?

I’m confused on the actual reason for the post. Are you saying all 4 vendors raws are shit or what?

Have you send any of your vials off? If not I would
 
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I've pretty much run out of next steps. In 4 years I've used around 35 vendors for oils, testing some, & batting around 50%. I've been home brewing also for a year, using 4 raws sources, Tejas, QSC, Dragon ordnance & now Buck. Roughly 20 vials brewed, 12 dif products, At 1st there was awful pip but at this point, with better equipment & exp my vials are smooth, look great & pin nicely. But as always, no active substance & hence a hormonal crash. I don't see what else to improve on. Concentrations are right, it's holding great & there's no excuse other than the raws & I can't believe I'd be 0/12 on raws.

Test Prop, NPP & Deca are what I've made. All seem to dissolve at their melting points, tho DOs stuff liquified much lower than it should've. I go around 2 ba & 18 bb. Use autoclave & magnetic stirring plate. 25-30 mins at melt point. Usually twice filtered. Is it the case that you cant get real raws anymore? Obviously the good vendors do
I asked Synergy, as his oils are great & he refuses to sell raws or say where they're from.
A little confused as well. Did you send out raws from the 4 names listed?

The crashing id not be surprised. I never ask where some of the sources I order from get their raws, but sometimes even my goto's I feel like garbage on.
 
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Sounds like you either are a terrible brewer, or you just go based in feelz. Or both
 

hHhcolt49

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I wasn't intending to diss the sources as much as legit wonder about temps unless my raws had been bad. It's actually a chance to sing source praise since Bucks raws worked out well.. & not much changed since my DO brews. DOs off this board anyway but ya I don't mind dissing their oil raws, even if the ancillaries were good. This brew has had very minor pip but not often & it's accurately dosed, which blood work can show so I'll get that in a few weeks.
 
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