Good cycle for TRT user (light)

[elmatonx]

22 years old. Was prescribed TRT back when I was 18 for having levels between 150 and 350 over a period of 3-5 months.

I did run tren at 19 (young age of peace) and got into contest size /shape. Hair had no real issues.

I started mildly thinning recently and plan to get on finastride. I was considering tren again but realize that for my goals, and my age, I’d rather go lighter.

Other than blasting test e at a higher dosage, are there any other good compounds for someone that’s slightly eating under deficit to lean out more? I’ve seen NPP and Anavar recommended, but I’m new to anything but Test and Tren.

What would you recommend that wont destroy my higher but will help me get some decent size/leanness?

 

[Naveln]

You could bump the test up to 400-500 mg/wk and try a moderate dose of EQ with something like a tbol kickstart.

 

[elmatonx]

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You could bump the test up to 400-500 mg/wk and try a moderate dose of EQ with something like a tbol kickstart.

That’s interesting. I’ve always been interested in trying EQ. I know there is a shorter derivative one since EQ has 10-11 days half life.

Is it milder on hair loss, and what it’s main feature/benefit as to what it does to your strength and aesthetics?

 

[Naveln]

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Naveln" pid='36053' dateline='1546651004:

You could bump the test up to 400-500 mg/wk and try a moderate dose of EQ with something like a tbol kickstart.

That’s interesting. I’ve always been interested in trying EQ. I know there is a shorter derivative one since EQ has 10-11 days half life.

Is it milder on hair loss, and what it’s main feature/benefit as to what it does to your strength and aesthetics?

Yes, it’s mild in the hairline. Normal eq has the undecanoate ester. Cypionate and acetate versions exist, but the pip is pretty awful. Strength and size gains are slow as the compound is relatively weak, but side effects are mild (some people experience increased hunger and/or anxiety).

 

[elmatonx]

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You could bump the test up to 400-500 mg/wk and try a moderate dose of EQ with something like a tbol kickstart.

That’s interesting. I’ve always been interested in trying EQ. I know there is a shorter derivative one since EQ has 10-11 days half life.

Is it milder on hair loss, and what it’s main feature/benefit as to what it does to your strength and aesthetics?

Yes, it’s mild in the hairline. Normal eq has the undecanoate ester. Cypionate and acetate versions exist, but the pip is pretty awful. Strength and size gains are slow as the compound is relatively weak, but side effects are mild (some people experience increased hunger and/or anxiety).

Doesnt sound like the benefit really is worth it. I see the majority of people recommend running EQ in the 16th week range.

Might just stick with tren, but keep it ace to manage and then throw in finastride.

BTW, would you still suggest keeping t-bol there with tren, or switch to anavar which tends to be mixed with tren more often?

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Just saw you wrote “kickstart”. Might not need to do that with tren, especially acetate.

What other compounds have you ran with tren that’s an oral, if any?

 

[Naveln]

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Naveln" pid='36053' dateline='1546651004:

You could bump the test up to 400-500 mg/wk and try a moderate dose of EQ with something like a tbol kickstart.

That’s interesting. I’ve always been interested in trying EQ. I know there is a shorter derivative one since EQ has 10-11 days half life.

Is it milder on hair loss, and what it’s main feature/benefit as to what it does to your strength and aesthetics?

Yes, it’s mild in the hairline. Normal eq has the undecanoate ester. Cypionate and acetate versions exist, but the pip is pretty awful. Strength and size gains are slow as the compound is relatively weak, but side effects are mild (some people experience increased hunger and/or anxiety).

Doesnt sound like the benefit really is worth it. I see the majority of people recommend running EQ in the 16th week range.

Might just stick with tren, but keep it ace to manage and then throw in finastride.

BTW, would you still suggest keeping t-bol there with tren, or switch to anavar which tends to be mixed with tren more often?

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Just saw you wrote “kickstart”. Might not need to do that with tren, especially acetate.

What other compounds have you ran with tren that’s an oral, if any?

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Finasteride works by inhibiting the 5 alpha reductase enzyme which converts testosterone into DHT. It will not affect balding caused by trenbolone as this enzymatic conversation doesn’t occur. If you were thinning before, nothing will save you this time.

Tbol does not have a dht base, unlike anavar. Anavar can cause hair thinning in those sensitive. However, this appears to be less likely with tbol. tbol is also a ‘dry’ compound and won’t cause estrogenic side effects unlike dbol/anadrol. I like winstrol too but that’ll destroy your hairline.

EQ does need to be run for a long time to shine, but it’s comfortable to run and shouldn’t cause the problems that you’re trying to avoid. I use it in every cycle now just because it’s one of the few steroids that I can run high without feeling like absolute shit.

 

[elmatonx]

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Naveln" pid='36053' dateline='1546651004:

You could bump the test up to 400-500 mg/wk and try a moderate dose of EQ with something like a tbol kickstart.

That’s interesting. I’ve always been interested in trying EQ. I know there is a shorter derivative one since EQ has 10-11 days half life.

Is it milder on hair loss, and what it’s main feature/benefit as to what it does to your strength and aesthetics?

Yes, it’s mild in the hairline. Normal eq has the undecanoate ester. Cypionate and acetate versions exist, but the pip is pretty awful. Strength and size gains are slow as the compound is relatively weak, but side effects are mild (some people experience increased hunger and/or anxiety).

Doesnt sound like the benefit really is worth it. I see the majority of people recommend running EQ in the 16th week range.

Might just stick with tren, but keep it ace to manage and then throw in finastride.

BTW, would you still suggest keeping t-bol there with tren, or switch to anavar which tends to be mixed with tren more often?

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Just saw you wrote “kickstart”. Might not need to do that with tren, especially acetate.

What other compounds have you ran with tren that’s an oral, if any?

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Finasteride works by inhibiting the 5 alpha reductase enzyme which converts testosterone into DHT. It will not affect balding caused by trenbolone as this enzymatic conversation doesn’t occur. If you were thinning before, nothing will save you this time.

Tbol does not have a dht base, unlike anavar. Anavar can cause hair thinning in those sensitive. However, this appears to be less likely with tbol. tbol is also a ‘dry’ compound and won’t cause estrogenic side effects unlike dbol/anadrol. I like winstrol too but that’ll destroy your hairline.

EQ does need to be run for a long time to shine, but it’s comfortable to run and shouldn’t cause the problems that you’re trying to avoid. I use it in every cycle now just because it’s one of the few steroids that I can run high without feeling like absolute shit.

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Excellent point. I’m open to giving it a try?

Now in terms of dosage, do you suggest keeping EQ over 600mg per week and testosterone low, or keep testosterone at blast levels as well?

 

[Naveln]

I’d run test at 400-600 mg/wk and EQ at 500-800 mg/wk. Some people like to frontload their EQ but I don’t think it’s necessary. I’d probably also run 50mg of tbol for 6 weeks as a kickstart.

 

[Tony_Parks]

Consider mast or primo.

 

[elmatonx]

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Consider mast or primo.

Gonna be in my target sites. Pulling trig on EQ and commiting for next foresable weeks.

fuark. So excited to be back.

 

[Naveln]

Mast tends to be rough on the hairline. Primo is an option but rough on the wallet.

 

[Tony_Parks]

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Tony Parks" pid='36307' dateline='1546811272:

Consider mast or primo.

Gonna be in my target sites. Pulling trig on EQ and commiting for next foresable weeks.

fuark. So excited to be back.

I’m rotating to EQ after mast. On only 220 mg per week of test and 200 mg per week of mast, I feel excellent, seem to have more definition, and have gotten a noticeable strength boost. After mast, I’m going to do test and EQ for 16-20 weeks then rotate to test and primo, then back to test and mast. I have a TRT script and decided to bump up the test and add other compounds. So far I’m pleased with the results.