Grapefruit (Naringin) on lowering Hematocrit?

[HeathGT]

Anyone have any experiences with using grapefruit or specifically the naringin to reduce HCT levels? I’m thinking about trying it as my HCT on a cruise of 100mg test a week is 51, and that’s after I donated double red two and a half months ago.

 

[Akula]

I cant give blood and im too skurd to vampire drain myself, so i use it all the time. Naringin and grapefruit seed extract. It works for me because once when i was on a cruze, and got slack in taking it, my DR. Freaked the fuck out when my rbcs came back high and referred me to a Hemotologist. Word of warning though, naringin tastes like pure sweaty ass that rolled around in swamp mud and tried to clean off with a lemon. Its nasty.

 

[HeathGT]

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I cant give blood and im too skurd to vampire drain myself, so i use it all the time. Naringin and grapefruit seed extract. It works for me because once when i was on a cruze, and got slack in taking it, my DR. Freaked the fuck out when my rbcs came back high and referred me to a Hemotologist. Word of warning though, naringin tastes like pure sweaty ass that rolled around in swamp mud and tried to clean off with a lemon. Its nasty.

I just ordered some Naringin capsules. 500mg ea. Was planning on taking one a day. How much do you take of this stuff and when?

 

[Akula]

I use the bulk supplements powder and take around 1k -1.5k mgs at night. I also take 600-1.2k grapefruit seed extract in the AM.

 

[appropionate]

one grapefruit a day always gets HCT from 50-52 down to 45-46 in my experience

 

[Tony_Parks]

I started recently after mine jumped up and am going to see if it makes a difference. My level had always been fine, around 46, then jumped to 52 on my last blood test. I see the doc tomorrow for my twice-a-year visit and am going to ask him about it. I’ve read varying things about what level is appropriate. One lab treats 51 or below as normal, mine has a cutoff of 50. And I’ve also read that 54 or below is normal for adult males.

Dehydration is the most common cause of high hematocrit, so consider whether you were properly hydrated the day you had blood drawn. I suspect that is what caused mine–I had blood drawn first thing in the morning after drinking coffee and taking a diuretic for blood pressure. In addition to grapefruit, I’m adding a quart of gatorade following my morning workout to see if that makes a difference. I’m often rushed in the mornings and don’t drink much water until later in the day. If not, I’m going to donate blood a few times a year.

 

[appropionate]

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I started recently after mine jumped up and am going to see if it makes a difference. My level had always been fine, around 46, then jumped to 52 on my last blood test. I see the doc tomorrow for my twice-a-year visit and am going to ask him about it. I’ve read varying things about what level is appropriate. One lab treats 51 or below as normal, mine has a cutoff of 50. And I’ve also read that 54 or below is normal for adult males.

Dehydration is the most common cause of high hematocrit, so consider whether you were properly hydrated the day you had blood drawn. I suspect that is what caused mine–I had blood drawn first thing in the morning after drinking coffee and taking a diuretic for blood pressure. In addition to grapefruit, I’m adding a quart of gatorade following my morning workout to see if that makes a difference. I’m often rushed in the mornings and don’t drink much water until later in the day. If not, I’m going to donate blood a few times a year.

I researched rehydration recently and gatorade isn’t much superior to water/coconut water, I currently believe that one should manage mineral intake primarily through nutrition/supplements

I’m not sure about reference ranges for HCT and correlation to optimal health vs “acceptable health” but I believe there’s no downside to keeping it around 45, should be easy enough.

I donate bloods every 8 weeks as that is the minimum time allowed between donations but I’ve not checked how much of an impact that has on HCT, anyone got data?

 

[FixerUpper]

Don’t stress too much about your HCT levels. Assuming that you’re an otherwise healthy human (no history of clotting factor disorders, Afib, etc.), there is nothing dangerous about a HCT value that’s well into the 50’s.

The reference range for HCT is somewhat unrelated to an association of what’s considered optimal, or “in good health”. It takes an extremely high HCT value for there to be a legitimate concern about ones safety or cardiovascular risk. There is a very distinct and important difference between a person with an isolated HCT value that is elevated, and someone who has that same HCT result in addition to other hematology lab value (mainly platelet) abnormalities. One is a non-issue, the other is a legitimate medical concern.

It’s more important to focus on your RBC count rather than HCT. It’s time to donate blood when RBC are becoming problematic. But even then, mild elevation of RBC count is far from an immediate life threat as well. Although it’s absolutely not something that you want to ignore either.

Point being, there’s a very significant difference between erythrocytosis and polycythemia.

 

[Teemo]

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I started recently after mine jumped up and am going to see if it makes a difference. My level had always been fine, around 46, then jumped to 52 on my last blood test. I see the doc tomorrow for my twice-a-year visit and am going to ask him about it. I’ve read varying things about what level is appropriate. One lab treats 51 or below as normal, mine has a cutoff of 50. And I’ve also read that 54 or below is normal for adult males.

Dehydration is the most common cause of high hematocrit, so consider whether you were properly hydrated the day you had blood drawn. I suspect that is what caused mine–I had blood drawn first thing in the morning after drinking coffee and taking a diuretic for blood pressure. In addition to grapefruit, I’m adding a quart of gatorade following my morning workout to see if that makes a difference. I’m often rushed in the mornings and don’t drink much water until later in the day. If not, I’m going to donate blood a few times a year.

I researched rehydration recently and gatorade isn’t much superior to water/coconut water, I currently believe that one should manage mineral intake primarily through nutrition/supplements

I’m not sure about reference ranges for HCT and correlation to optimal health vs “acceptable health” but I believe there’s no downside to keeping it around 45, should be easy enough.

I donate bloods every 8 weeks as that is the minimum time allowed between donations but I’ve not checked how much of an impact that has on HCT, anyone got data?

What about ferritin deficiency? that s what i got donating blood every 8 weeks.
I’m on ferritin deficiency with high RBC/hematocrit on TRT