HAHAHAHA!!!

[Blacklion3]

So, lucky for me I am on HAN’s White List. I’ve been running his NPP at 100mgs ED (700 per week) for the last 6 weeks. Today, I looked at the vial and noticed for the first time that HAN’s NPP is dosed at 150mg/ml. So I’ve actually been running over 1 gram of NPP per week! That’s all…just thought I’d share my ignorance. Have a great day!

 

[PissedPajamas]

How are the gains on 1g NPP? Does your slim jim still work?

 

[Blacklion3]

PissedPajamas" pid='21150' dateline='1532625982:

How are the gains on 1g NPP? Does your slim jim still work?

Gains are superb! Never used NPP before and I love it. Sexual function is perfectly fine. I’m not running any test either. NPP only. I’ve been blessed with the “no test needed” gene.

 

[Bearslovecheese]

PissedPajamas" pid='21150' dateline='1532625982:

How are the gains on 1g NPP? Does your slim jim still work?

Can’t speak for Han’s gear, but Master’s NPP followed by Versace’s Nand Cyp both had me trying to bang the wife like a screen door in a hurricane. Much more of an effect then Tren even.

 

[Master_Roshi]

Blacklion3" pid='21170' dateline='1532635057:

PissedPajamas" pid='21150' dateline='1532625982:

How are the gains on 1g NPP? Does your slim jim still work?

Gains are superb! Never used NPP before and I love it. Sexual function is perfectly fine. I’m not running any test either. NPP only. I’ve been blessed with the “no test needed” gene.

Have you had bloodwork done to see your levels?

 

[Jbruder]

Blacklion3" pid='21170' dateline='1532635057:

PissedPajamas" pid='21150' dateline='1532625982:

How are the gains on 1g NPP? Does your slim jim still work?

Gains are superb! Never used NPP before and I love it. Sexual function is perfectly fine. I’m not running any test either. NPP only. I’ve been blessed with the “no test needed” gene.

I lol’d… and i’m outta here.

 

[Jimmygym]

Hahahaha no test needed… goooooood luck with that

 

[Blacklion3]

Jimmygym" pid='21185' dateline='1532640139:

Hahahaha no test needed… goooooood luck with that

Been doing it for years. Wouldn’t do it any other way.

 

[system]

You guys are dumb for coming at OP over running nandrolone only. It’s actually very common and many report feeling fantastic without many/any sides. We’ve actually had other members do it as an experiment (on the old board) and they responded positively. Forgot which member it is but I’m pretty sure they’re still around-hopefully they see this and chime in.

 

[Master_Roshi]

kingofcarbz" pid='21241' dateline='1532656096:

You guys are dumb for coming at OP over running nandrolone only. It’s actually very common and many report feeling fantastic without many/any sides. We’ve actually had other members do it as an experiment (on the old board) and they responded positively. Forgot which member it is but I’m pretty sure they’re still around-hopefully they see this and chime in.

Do you know how their testosterone levels were? Did it not suppress them?

 

[system]

Master Roshi" pid='21243' dateline='1532656218:

kingofcarbz" pid='21241' dateline='1532656096:

You guys are dumb for coming at OP over running nandrolone only. It’s actually very common and many report feeling fantastic without many/any sides. We’ve actually had other members do it as an experiment (on the old board) and they responded positively. Forgot which member it is but I’m pretty sure they’re still around-hopefully they see this and chime in.

Do you know how their testosterone levels were? Did it not suppress them?

I’d assume 0/very low. It did, of course.

In simple terms, the viewpoint from those using nand only is that higher doses of nand can essentially ‘replace’ test and prevent most if not all of the sides related to test and estrogen. Most who run deca do so without AI and they’re fine, even with high doses such as 1g+. Some use proviron for the DHT, but some do not-I’ve seen positive reports from both sides.

 

[BrawnaldPump]

It would make sense that some 19-nors can do that, right, trestolone was designed to replace testosterone entirely.

 

[case_akilleez]

I’m doing the exact same thing op. Running hans NPP @ 1g a week, no test. Also using anavar at 100 mgs per day. This is my second nandrolone only run. If anybody has any questions, just ask

 

[Jimmygym]

Hahahahah yes shut yourself down and have no test… placebo is a hell of a drug people. If you did any blood work at all other than “feel” you would know this. I feel good when I booze too but that doesn’t mean it’s good for my body. Keep running it tho wth do I care just dont spout off information that will have some
Noob trying this and having to create a thread about their limp noodle

 

[system]

Jimmygym" pid='21311' dateline='1532707047:

Hahahahah yes shut yourself down and have no test… placebo is a hell of a drug people. If you did any blood work at all other than “feel” you would know this. I feel good when I booze too but that doesn’t mean it’s good for my body. Keep running it tho wth do I care just dont spout off information that will have some
Noob trying this and having to create a thread about their limp noodle

I highly suggest doing some research before formulating an opinion next time. You are wrong.

Did thinksteroids shutdown or something? How did we even get people like this on here…

 

[Jimmygym]

Me do research? I prefer to deal with facts, numbers, and blood results when it comes to this game:

Nandrolone has also been shown to decrease LH, FSH, and endogenous testosterone levels in animal models, indicating a negative feedback loop to inhibit the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal (HPG) axis (44). In this context, nandrolone acts as an androgen receptor agonist that is not converted endogenously to DHT (15). As such, it provides negative feedback to the HPG axis to suppresses testosterone levels, further decreasing the available testosterone and DHT, compounding its negative effects on erectile function.

Now if you want to show human trial results of test and no test with 19
Nor (you won’t) then I’ll change my mind. The next best thing would be blood work to back this under but I can guarantee it will have you suppressed. Meso is full of asshole but at least they deal in FACTS. Once agaIn, run whatever you want but anyone new thinking of doing this then I do actually suggest you research it. Can some get away with it sure but leave it to those than are experienced and know how these compounds affect their bodies.

No ill will to you or anything man I’ve just seen some people have gnarly long term ED issues for this exact reason especially with Deca. But hey to each their own and I’d agree with you on anything to do with what you are putting in your body is to research and make your own judgement!

 

[system]

Jimmygym" pid='21336' dateline='1532723911:

Me do research? I prefer to deal with facts, numbers, and blood results when it comes to this game:

Nandrolone has also been shown to decrease LH, FSH, and endogenous testosterone levels in animal models, indicating a negative feedback loop to inhibit the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal (HPG) axis (44). In this context, nandrolone acts as an androgen receptor agonist that is not converted endogenously to DHT (15). As such, it provides negative feedback to the HPG axis to suppresses testosterone levels, further decreasing the available testosterone and DHT, compounding its negative effects on erectile function.

Now if you want to show human trial results of test and no test with 19
Nor (you won’t) then I’ll change my mind. The next best thing would be blood work to back this under but I can guarantee it will have you suppressed. Meso is full of asshole but at least they deal in FACTS. Once agaIn, run whatever you want but anyone new thinking of doing this then I do actually suggest you research it. Can some get away with it sure but leave it to those than are experienced and know how these compounds affect their bodies.

No ill will to you or anything man I’ve just seen some people have gnarly long term ED issues for this exact reason especially with Deca. But hey to each their own and I’d agree with you on anything to do with what you are putting in your body is to research and make your own judgement!

Please read the post(s) before you respond next time. Nobody has said that it doesn’t suppress you nor have we said that it should be done by anybody “new” (beginners).

What holds more value?

1. Experienced users who use deca only citing citing positive results
2. Some random dude on the internet who is regurgitating the closed-minded ideologies of the ill educated steroid boards who lost all of their respect in the game like 10 years ago

I know I sure value the input of experienced users way over that of no avatar dude with 10 posts and ties back to boards with no credibility. If you have a deca only log by all means send it our way, but as somebody who doesn’t even use deca only himself I can say I’ve seen first-hand (friends included) at least 15-20 positive experiences with the only negative ones coming from people like you who haven’t done it, but have this unnecessary urge to throw in their “expert” dated opinion that somehow conflicts with the anecdotes available. Weird. Kinda like those “insulin only makes u fat”’ “u can’t inject aas with slin pins gotta use 23g skewers” type people who refuse to look at the big picture and see countless peers having success doing exactly what they’re claiming shouldn’t be done.

Not saying there aren’t people who just don’t respond well to deca (for whatever reason-acne, mood, dick, results, other sides) and wouldn’t want to take this route, but for you to immediately try to discredit the OP simply because he has success using deca only is just childish and closed-minded (reference your first response after he mentioned it). You should have simply asked him about it so that you could learn a thing or two first-hand from an experienced real world user instead of basing your stance off of “I’ve heard of guys getting ED from that hohoho!!” Maybe then you’d be able to look at it and say “hey, I guess some people do have success doing this. I’m not willing to try it, but if others are doing it and responding positively, I should consider not acting like a pompous asshole upon hearing about it next time”

 

[Brochacho_Prime]

An old unit mate of mine back in the day ran nandro only cycles with dbol because “good enough for Arnold, good enough for me” and he did just fine. He was a freak of a man though and I personally wouldn’t recommend anyone try it.

 

[KingTest]

case_akilleez" pid='21286' dateline='1532699698:

I’m doing the exact same thing op. Running hans NPP @ 1g a week, no test. Also using anavar at 100 mgs per day. This is my second nandrolone only run. If anybody has any questions, just ask

Hell yeah man! Expand on that. How does it feel compared to test cycles or test and nandro cycles? Also have you tried TRT and nandro?

 

[Jimmygym]

I am giving first hand account information regarding cycling this with no test. But whatever you want to say play the victim here when I am providing SCIENTIFIC evidence to back it up. Post your blood work at the end of your deca only cycle and see your test levels. Now imagine that cycle with a low dose amount of test. That’s all I’m saying. And I don’t care if you do it with your slin pin or not at least that has some science to back up the usage. More then one way to skin a cat and I’m not saying it won’t work but I’m saying is there is better ways to do this. Once again… to each their own but to preach this to someone to try who doesn’t know any better is wrong. I’m sorry on the 4th generation of this site I don’t have an avatar for you to make you feel safe with my posts.