Help on pct!!

[TooBald826]

I’m planning on running test e, Deca, and dbol as a kickstarter. Here’s my plan.

Week 1-4: test e-500mg/wk, Deca-300mg/wk dbol 50mg/ed
Week 5-16: test e-500mg/wk, Deca-300mg/wk

I know this is a long cycle and I just need some help getting a proper pct ready before starting. I will have, clomid, nolvadex, Aromasin, and hcg on hand im just not sure what the best approach for my pct is. Last cycle I ran test e 500mg a week for 12 weeks and ran nolva and clomid at 25mgs/ed for 4 weeks and i didn’t recover like I should have so I think that’s why I lost most of my gains. I know I didn’t do enough research on pct before starting my cycle which I regret because it turned out to be a waste lol. My diet and workout is solid so it had to be a bad recovery. I’m wanting to run something during cycle to help keep estrogen low as well. I’m just looking for the best approach. Thanks for any advice fellas.

 

[Savagemannn]

You have to wait the proper amount of time after last pin to start pct or it’s a waste

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For example most people do this for their test cyp/enan cycle

1-16 test
1-14 deca
Wait two weeks (hcg 1000iu mon, wed, Friday)then pct for 4 weeks
First three days 100 clomid. 40 nolvadex
Finish rest of week 1 and 2 with 50 clomid and 40 nolvadex
Last two weeks of pct. 25 clomid and 20 nolvadex

 

[Bearslovecheese]

Savage has you fixed up. Cut the Deca before the test because of its longer (almost double) half life so that it doesn’t ruin the prime portion of your kickstart.

If you have clomid side effects or it doesn’t agree with you (far more common then issues with nolva) you can skip a day or two and run it 25mg or even just drop it all together. Nolva alone will do the job.

The nice thing about Aromasin is it is a suicidal AI so you don’t run the risk of estrogen rebound that you would have with Adex as you get into your PCT and the test/deca start to clear.

 

[DNPstoney]

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I’m planning on running test e, Deca, and dbol as a kickstarter. Here’s my plan.

Week 1-4: test e-500mg/wk, Deca-300mg/wk dbol 50mg/ed
Week 5-16: test e-500mg/wk, Deca-300mg/wk

I know this is a long cycle and I just need some help getting a proper pct ready before starting. I will have, clomid, nolvadex, Aromasin, and hcg on hand im just not sure what the best approach for my pct is. Last cycle I ran test e 500mg a week for 12 weeks and ran nolva and clomid at 25mgs/ed for 4 weeks and i didn’t recover like I should have so I think that’s why I lost most of my gains. I know I didn’t do enough research on pct before starting my cycle which I regret because it turned out to be a waste lol. My diet and workout is solid so it had to be a bad recovery. I’m wanting to run something during cycle to help keep estrogen low as well. I’m just looking for the best approach. Thanks for any advice fellas.

As savage said, Deca is a long ester so you want to stop Deca 2 weeks before you stop Test, or else the Deca will keep you suppressed.

As for PCT, I would suggest:

Week 1-2 Post Cycle: 500-1000iu HCG E3.5 Days
Week 3-8: Nolva 40/40/20/20/20/20
Week 3-8: Clomid 50/50/25/25/25/25

And I would drop the clomid if the sides don’t agree with you.

 

[Savagemannn]

Yes I should of added that. Clomid does mess with some people. Luckily for me it doesn’t. Only sexually haha

 

[Giantnerd11]

Clomid gives me crazy vision issues, I’ve been b&c for awhile now so that’s no longer a concern for me.