Help With AI

[Fnomegucker]

From watching some youtube I see bodybuilders say that you should never run an ai in an off season, and they say use masteron or primo instead. Is using 12.5mg or aromasin eod really killing my gains or causing any issues? Some people say they use aromasin always when running high test while others say to avoid it like the plague, I just wanted to see what some of you guys thought.

 

[KillTheKing]

From watching some youtube I see bodybuilders say that you should never run an ai in an off season, and they say use masteron or primo instead. Is using 12.5mg or aromasin eod really killing my gains or causing any issues? Some people say they use aromasin always when running high test while others say to avoid it like the plague, I just wanted to see what some of you guys thought.

I was on 400 Test C a week for 5 weeks and had all the high E2 signs. Emotional, hard, sensitive nipples, bloated, high BP, no drive or motivation like Test should give. I was so scared of crashing my estrogen that I just fought through it until I had blood work. My E2 was 92. Last week I took 12.5 on MWF when I pinned and I feel great. Nipples aren't hard, I'm not all depressed, haven't checked BP but I haven't had those hot flashes and headaches. 12.5 eod seems to be what most people take. I think I'm going to cut it back to half that on pin days and see how it goes. I would definitely get blood work and see where you're at. I think this "don't touch ai" and "you'll crash your estrogen" are just tossed around too much. Start with a low dose for a week and see how you feel.

 

[RasputinOP]

I was on 400 Test C a week for 5 weeks and had all the high E2 signs. Emotional, hard, sensitive nipples, bloated, high BP, no drive or motivation like Test should give. I was so scared of crashing my estrogen that I just fought through it until I had blood work. My E2 was 92. Last week I took 12.5 on MWF when I pinned and I feel great. Nipples aren't hard, I'm not all depressed, haven't checked BP but I haven't had those hot flashes and headaches. 12.5 eod seems to be what most people take. I think I'm going to cut it back to half that on pin days and see how it goes. I would definitely get blood work and see where you're at. I think this "don't touch ai" and "you'll crash your estrogen" are just tossed around too much. Start with a low dose for a week and see how you feel.

Especially with aromasin. You gotta have no idea what youre doing to crash on aromasin. And arimidex youll at least rebound.

 

[Synergy Forge]

I was on 400 Test C a week for 5 weeks and had all the high E2 signs. Emotional, hard, sensitive nipples, bloated, high BP, no drive or motivation like Test should give. I was so scared of crashing my estrogen that I just fought through it until I had blood work. My E2 was 92. Last week I took 12.5 on MWF when I pinned and I feel great. Nipples aren't hard, I'm not all depressed, haven't checked BP but I haven't had those hot flashes and headaches. 12.5 eod seems to be what most people take. I think I'm going to cut it back to half that on pin days and see how it goes. I would definitely get blood work and see where you're at. I think this "don't touch ai" and "you'll crash your estrogen" are just tossed around too much. Start with a low dose for a week and see how you feel.

"I would definitely get blood work and see where you're at. I think this "don't touch ai" and "you'll crash your estrogen" are just tossed around too much. Start with a low dose for a week and see how you feel."

I completely agree, I only interject because I think I can add something worth value here, and that is to say that @Fnomegucker , I wanted to remind you that everyone is different and we all respond differently to an AI, so the secret is figuring out what works best for you. I subscribe to the theory that you should research your question, and try everything that sounds reasonable and safe at least once to determine which method works best for your particular case. Bloodwork will be your best friend in this trial period. Many of the things that are posted as "fact" are simply what works for that particular person and they will defend their position to the bitter end, and why not? It clearly works for them so it must be true, yeah? Unfortunately that is not always the case. So accept advice with a grain of salt and if it's not dangerous, try it, and if nothing works for you then perhaps you'll find a variable to one of the pieces of advice that does and you can help those that come walking in your footsteps.

 

[Fnomegucker]

"I would definitely get blood work and see where you're at. I think this "don't touch ai" and "you'll crash your estrogen" are just tossed around too much. Start with a low dose for a week and see how you feel."

I completely agree, I only interject because I think I can add something worth value here, and that is to say that @Fnomegucker , I wanted to remind you that everyone is different and we all respond differently to an AI, so the secret is figuring out what works best for you. I subscribe to the theory that you should research your question, and try everything that sounds reasonable and safe at least once to determine which method works best for your particular case. Bloodwork will be your best friend in this trial period. Many of the things that are posted as "fact" are simply what works for that particular person and they will defend their position to the bitter end, and why not? It clearly works for them so it must be true, yeah? Unfortunately that is not always the case. So accept advice with a grain of salt and if it's not dangerous, try it, and if nothing works for you then perhaps you'll find a variable to one of the pieces of advice that does and you can help those that come walking in your footsteps.

Hey Syn thanks for your input I hope you had a nice Xmas. I take 12.5 mg aromasin eod like I said and I don't really notice any negative side affect, I was thinking of adding primo to use as an ai moving forward seems more productive. What do you think? Could I use mast instead for cost?

 

[IronCody]

i was having a gyno lump off 500 test, regardless of nolvadex or arimidex. i am now cruising on 250 test and 200 primo , not taking any AI, and my gyno is rapidly disappearing.

 

[Fnomegucker]

i was having a gyno lump off 500 test, regardless of nolvadex or arimidex. i am now cruising on 250 test and 200 primo , not taking any AI, and my gyno is rapidly disappearing.

I'm gonna try 400 primo 600 test and see how that works

 

[lifter6973]

I'm gonna try 400 primo 600 test and see how that works

What about getting the bloodwork as mentioned? That's the most important item to check off when trying to dial in your E2.

 

[IronCody]

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What about getting the bloodwork as mentioned? That's the most important item to check off when trying to dial in your E2.

i am going to second this, even on my cruise i am gonna pull bloods 3 months in, i would like to dial in before i blast .