Thanks for the reply! Your a wealth of information bud! I take Losartan 100mg ed. But doesn’t seem like it gets below 145/70 during the day. Is dizziness and brain fog part of this hematocrit issue (I have those symptoms all the time now)? Some ppl have no sides up around 55.I’m a lifetime drainer.
Some data points to those over 40 (that’s me) having much more problems with AAS induced high hct.
I’ve had hct as high as 68%, I drain off 500cc every month. Found a source of 19g butterfly needles that are dirt cheap without safety devices that get the job done much easier then the 21g I was using before.
My symptoms of high hct: high bp, headache, red swollen extremities(my lower legs turn red if I don’t drain every month).
At the moment I use calcium channel blockers, sometimes ACE inhibitors to control my bp as well. Don’t use HCTZ as this will dehydrate which is exactly the opposite of what you want to do to keep plasma volume up, also they make you feel like shit.
For those under the care of a physician, this is a deal breaker, doctors withdraw treatment until your hct is lowered and often times they refuse to help you in your goals.
Only thing you need to do besides draining is taking a vitamin with 18mg of iron every day to make sure ferritin levels don’t drop overtime. It takes about three weeks of supplementation to replace the iron lost in 500cc of whole blood.
Blood pressure is something you need to keep your eye on everyday, it wrecks your entire body overtime if you don’t manage it. So eat a low sodium diet, don’t eat anything with added salt, stick with veggies, fruits, and lean meats, stay away from packaged and canned crap with added salt.
Gym 6 times week and LISS 3 x 30 mins. Just running test e nothing else. Was 500 then dropped to 250. I’m wondering if those finger prick hct meters at donation places are accurate. I do have the funky headaches etc. time for some labs I guess. Is hct rise dose dependent?Which compounds are you using, what dosage? How active are you throughout the day? What did you change before you got this high value?
Phlebotomy is just a bandaid and will not fix your problem. I’d suggest to at least take one baby aspirin daily to reduce stroke risk, anything over 50 is really asking for trouble. The side-effects of the ASS are not as worse as dieing from the stroke. Be more active throughout the day, more cardio, a few times a day. Grapefruit extract anecdotally has the reputation to lower HCT.
But in the end, you have to stop using the compound that turns your blood to the consistency of pudding. Especially if you also have high BP, that is a bad combo mate.
So Finasturide will keep hct from rising?!Androgenic stimulation of kidneys is directly correlated to the androgenicity of the compound.
Stop using heavy androgens and use a 5AR blocker for your test. Too bad it didn’t get funding https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02548117
So I’m planning on draining 250 ml / wk for three weeks along with grapefruit ed to get hct down… is this a bad idea? Is there anything you would recommend?The problem with 5AR blocker is that you want that DHT.
I’ve studied the effect of DHT and yes the studies of how it effects erythrocytosis wasn’t conclusive. We knew that Test was doing it’s part, but how much DHT was doing wasn’t known for sure. That study you point to would have been interesting.
I will say this, I won’t block my DHT ever. DHT is the ultimate male hormone, it’s what makes a man a man, gives him his sex drive, cognitive function, energy and drive and elevates his mood. Sure you’ll go bald, your lipid levels won’t look as good, but you will have an erection that is a deadly weapon.
So I take masteron 8 weeks on 4 off all year round. DHT derivatives are the called the “nectar of the gods” for a reason.
Hey I’m on 320 Valsartan and 5 amlodipine and got 145/60 am and 157/66 pm. Can’t get systolic down. Any experience with that odd of a BP. Got funky headaches ?I’m a lifetime drainer.
Some data points to those over 40 (that’s me) having much more problems with AAS induced high hct.
I’ve had hct as high as 68%, I drain off 500cc every month. Found a source of 19g butterfly needles that are dirt cheap without safety devices that get the job done much easier then the 21g I was using before.
My symptoms of high hct: high bp, headache, red swollen extremities(my lower legs turn red if I don’t drain every month).
At the moment I use calcium channel blockers, sometimes ACE inhibitors to control my bp as well. Don’t use HCTZ as this will dehydrate which is exactly the opposite of what you want to do to keep plasma volume up, also they make you feel like shit.
For those under the care of a physician, this is a deal breaker, doctors withdraw treatment until your hct is lowered and often times they refuse to help you in your goals.
Only thing you need to do besides draining is taking a vitamin with 18mg of iron every day to make sure ferritin levels don’t drop overtime. It takes about three weeks of supplementation to replace the iron lost in 500cc of whole blood.
Blood pressure is something you need to keep your eye on everyday, it wrecks your entire body overtime if you don’t manage it. So eat a low sodium diet, don’t eat anything with added salt, stick with veggies, fruits, and lean meats, stay away from packaged and canned crap with added salt.