High Concentrations

[dantespeak]

I was wondering if anyone had any experience with any high concentration AAS. I wanted to get some NPP but don’t want my arm to feel like it’s gonna fall off or not be able to walk due to the PIP. I was seeing if the PIP is more subtle when it’s diluted with a regular doses compound like my Test. So mL Test to 1 mL NPP200

 

[MuscleMongoose]

Idk man sometimes test e 300 will give you pip for a whole week.

There’s a source here who sells high concentrations I think 500mg/ml of test and maybe 200 of NPP but he warns you about the pip before buying.

So to answer your question yes I would assume higher than normal concentrations would leave your arm like it’s going to fall offf if you didn’t dilute it

 

[Bigdovis2]

There’s rlly only 200 npp wasn’t bad, usually just use 100mg/ml since I rarely go over 300.

You can buy just one vial and see how bad it is. Tbh you’d probably get used to it after a week or two unless you pinning yourself kinda fucked up.

 

[Lee_48157]

I prefer regularly dosed gear & single compounds myself. Blends typically are not dosed correctly & high doses per ml can require more solvents in the carrier to keep from crashing. I just don’t mess w them myself.

 

[Guc_Nukem]

It really depends on the compounds, but in general higher concentrations will give you pretty bad pip. If I'm blasting, after a few injections of a higher concentration gear, I'll actually inject a less concentrated compound into it and mix them to reduce the pip.

The thing that sucks about PIP is that it's not really something you get used to, it sucks every time.

 

[MuscleCandy]

High concentrations are definitely more prone to PIP.
Let’s say (just as an example) it takes your body 24hrs to absorb 1ml of MCT oil and 100mg of NPP..
Using NPP 100mg- your body will absorb them at the same rate = no pain.
Using NPP 200mg- with that same 1ml, the oil is absorbed faster, leaving 100mg crystallized in the injection area = pain.

EDIT: this is why water based injectables are more prone to PIP. The body absorbs the water faster than oil.

To answer your question- it would depend on the rate that your body is absorbing the other compounds vs the oil.
It may make it better, could make it worse.

We get a lot of “complaints” (I use that term loosely because typically the customer knew what they were getting into when they purchased it) on our Test E (500). We’re debating if we should just discontinue the 500mg and maybe do a 400mg concentration instead. I certainly need to add a warning in the description of the website.

I don’t really hear many complaints about the PIP on other high concentration compounds, though. With that being said, they’re still more prone to PIP in comparison to the lower concentrations.

If it’s something you’re concerned about, you could always purchase some sterile oil to dilute it just in case you can’t handle it.
Or you could just be a man and lift through the pain.

 

[dantespeak]

I guess I’m just gonna get some and see. Some of the pre workout blends I’ve used were absolutely terrible and I’m still here lol

 

[Guc_Nukem]

High concentrations are definitely more prone to PIP.
Let’s say (just as an example) it takes your body 24hrs to absorb 1ml of MCT oil and 100mg of NPP..
Using NPP 100mg- your body will absorb them at the same rate = no pain.
Using NPP 200mg- with that same 1ml, the oil is absorbed faster, leaving 100mg crystallized in the injection area = pain.

EDIT: this is why water based injectables are more prone to PIP. The body absorbs the water faster than oil.

To answer your question- it would depend on the rate that your body is absorbing the other compounds vs the oil.
It may make it better, could make it worse.

We get a lot of “complaints” (I use that term loosely because typically the customer knew what they were getting into when they purchased it) on our Test E (500). We’re debating if we should just discontinue the 500mg and maybe do a 400mg concentration instead. I certainly need to add a warning in the description of the website.

I don’t really hear many complaints about the PIP on other high concentration compounds, though. With that being said, they’re still more prone to PIP in comparison to the lower concentrations.

If it’s something you’re concerned about, you could always purchase some sterile oil to dilute it just in case you can’t handle it.
Or you could just be a man and lift through the pain.

Have you ever thought about playing around with slower absorbing oils, something like a high concentration using castor oil to try and avoid some of the PIP?

I will also say that your 500mg/ml Test E is on the smoother side even with the wicked pip. It would probably be kicking my ass if I was not mixing it with another compound prior to injecting.

Maybe just mark the price up 10% to subsidize including the sterile oil to be safe lol

 

[Seanbhs]

The 500mg/ml test gave me really bad pip even at .25ml in a shot.

Instead of just a swollen lump like when a shot leaks subq. It was like a hard crystallized knot that touching would cause pain and if you rolled onto that shoulder it would pretty much wake you up out of sleep. I have high pain tolerance but there’s literally no point of using test above 300mg cost vs reward

I still finished the bottle mixing 1:2 ratio with eq but it still was worse then normal brewed test