I’m convinced I’m allergic to something in ugl gear

[bigsmith97]

So I’ve been on TRT threw my doctor for 2.5 years. Last year I decided I wanted to run 300 test/ 400 primo/ 50var. I used colonials test cyp and primo 200. Every other week I would get knots and painful pip everyday for 16 weeks. Switched back to trt test and no pain. Now I am trying pharmahgh’s primo and same shit, injecting same way as test 1” needle and mother fucker I keep getting horrible pip every injection & im heating oil with heating pad. What could I be allergic too?

 

[BigarmsAL]

Could be the carrier oil mct,Grapeseed i belive trt test use cottonseed oil correct me if I'm wrong

 

[bigsmith97]

Could be the carrier oil mct,Grapeseed i belive trt test use cottonseed oil correct me if I'm wrong

My trt is GSO & so is the primo from pharmahgh

 

[Musclehead34]

Smaller more frequent shots.

 

[bahamu7]

My trt is GSO & so is the primo from pharmahgh

it's the GSO for sure, I used colonials test on GSO and had knots and mild pip. Switched to viper's test cyp in mct and it's like injecting water.

 

[bigsmith97]

it's the GSO for sure, I used colonials test on GSO and had knots and mild pip. Switched to viper's test cyp in mct and it's like injecting water.

What’s the difference in the GSO from pharmacy vs ugl??

 

[Nandrolorian]

What’s the difference in the GSO from pharmacy vs ugl??

In a perfect world? Nothing. Realistically who knows man. How fast are you injecting, when you say you switched back, did you switch back to trt doses or did you keep it the same as your blast dose? I'm trying to figure out if when you're getting pip you've injected a higher volume or not or if you experience the same trading out the test 1 for 1. Where are you injecting with the 1"? I can't do VG with a 1" has to be 1.5" otherwise it's rough. Glutes I can kind of get away with 1 but prefer 1.5

 

[BINGBONG]

@bigsmith97 Could be higher solvents in those UGLs, could be the higher injection volume, could be carrier oil. Only way to find out would be to try MCT at ur TRT dose and inject super slow.

@Nandrolorian what do u mean its rough when u go shorter? I have been using a 1/2" slin pin ventro glutes for my cruise no problems but I stay under 10% bf. I switch to 1" when adding higher doses or mixing in other compounds.

 

[bigsmith97]

In a perfect world? Nothing. Realistically who knows man. How fast are you injecting, when you say you switched back, did you switch back to trt doses or did you keep it the same as your blast dose? I'm trying to figure out if when you're getting pip you've injected a higher volume or not or if you experience the same trading out the test 1 for 1. Where are you injecting with the 1"? I can't do VG with a 1" has to be 1.5" otherwise it's rough. Glutes I can kind of get away with 1 but prefer 1.5

I switched back to my pharmacy test. Tried trt dose with ugl test GSO and made me swell like a mf, test from pharmacy I could inject anywhere and no pain. I am injecting the 1” into my upper glutes. Just tried VG yesterday with .28cc of the primo and It’s so sore I can’t lay on it. The primo from colonial GSO and pharmahgh GSO both made me swell & painfully knot up. I even einjected a whole ml of my pharmacy test and a whole ml of ugl test from colonial and my god my left side was pain free and left side hurt so bad I couldn’t sit on it

 

[bigsmith97]

My main this is almost every shot rn with this primo hurts bad,gets hot and swollen & is hard as a rock. I’m thinking about stopping this primo and buying MCT from vyper and trying it out

 

[mastrblastrr]

Get gear with MCT and should be fine.

 

[thelastnut]

Heat up your primo or any gear on a candle warmer for 10 minutes makes a huge difference

 

[Luxferro]

Dude interestingly my pharma test does the same thing to me too LMAO.

I literally can’t explain it brother. After certain injections I legitimately become Ill and my BW shows elevated WBC and neutrophils. Go fucking figure.

 

[bigsmith97]

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Heat up your primo or any gear on a candle warmer for 10 minutes makes a huge difference

I wrap it in a heating pad

 

[Luxferro]

One thing I also want to note is that sometimes you can give yourself a pulmonary microembolism when injecting if the oil depot happens to seep a bit into a vein.

Though not a medical emergency, this typically causes shortness of breath, malaise/fatigue, and dizziness which passes after a few hours.

The best way to mitigate/avoid this issue altogether is to inject subQ but this isn’t really feasible for the volume of oil we’re running generally. Alternatively, just aspirate and make sure to avoid pinning in areas with lots of veins. Also, injecting smaller volumes and more deeply will help as well.

 

[bigsmith97]

Iv

One thing I also want to note is that sometimes you can give yourself a pulmonary microembolism when injecting if the oil depot happens to seep a bit into a vein.

Though not a medical emergency, this typically causes shortness of breath, malaise/fatigue, and dizziness which passes after a few hours.

The best way to mitigate/avoid this issue altogether is to inject subQ but this isn’t really feasible for the volume of oil we’re running generally. Alternatively, just aspirate and make sure to avoid pinning in areas with lots of veins. Also, injecting smaller volumes and more deeply will help as well.

Ive never had that issue. Is it possible to inject primo subq mct with daily injections ?

 

[bahamu7]

Iv

Ive never had that issue. Is it possible to inject primo subq mct with daily injections ?

of course it is

 

[Aoi_611]

I run into this a lot with enthanate. Either test or primo, which is pretty much all I run.

I initially thought I was allergic to GSO then went to Test cyp in CSO thinking it was resolved only to have the same issue with primo, etc, etc.
It was never the carrier oil, it’s just something I react to in ugl gear. Never tried pharma so can’t comment.

Best way I’ve found around this is just mixing shots in a 1:1 ratio with a sterile carrier oil. I usually pull .5 mil of gear then .5 of oil and so on. It’s a little more volume to pin but it’s well worth not dealing with the shitty reaction and deformed lumps.

 

[bigsmith97]

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I run into this a lot with enthanate. Either test or primo, which is pretty much all I run.

I initially thought I was allergic to GSO then went to Test cyp in CSO thinking it was resolved only to have the same issue with primo, etc, etc.
It was never the carrier oil, it’s just something I react to in ugl gear. Never tried pharma so can’t comment.

Best way I’ve found around this is just mixing shots in a 1:1 ratio with a sterile carrier oil. I usually pull .5 mil of gear then .5 of oil and so on. It’s a little more volume to pin but it’s well worth not dealing with the shitty reaction and deformed lumps.

I wonder if it’s that we are allergic to EO? Bc some places use EO to make the gear

 

[Aoi_611]

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I wonder if it’s that we are allergic to EO? Bc some places use EO to make the gear

That’s what I was thinking honestly