I NEVER thought I would have to ask about girl problems on SST till now..

[PersianBody19]

To explain the problem im first gonna give you a hella short background story and not to make this a book lol:

1. So my University is opening up in less than 1 month and I will be moving back to my off-campus apartment that is around 600 sqft (small as HELL and this info will help you know what I’m dealing with).
2. I met this girl in my home town 1-2 months ago that also goes to my University and lives by my apartment like 5 min away literally… we found things in common, talked and talked, hung out a lot, we are in the same religion, She actually cares about her education and her future, and she has a mindset nothing like the other girls I have met… I met her dad (no joke he lifts too), our family is gonna all have dinner soon to meet, basically, we went through the whole talking phase and I know her deep lol.
3. I have had 3 diff relationships in Uni. 1st girl was crazy and wanted toooo much attention. 2nd I could not afford a proper cycle with pct and AI (I know I sound like an asshole) and I wasn’t feeling with her (short term thing). 3rd was too much a party girl. I am mentioning all of this not to brag or sound like a “player”… I am saying this because all of them had one thing in COMMON… When they came to my 600sqft apartment and got comfortable for a LITTLE BIT THEY WOULD GO THROUGH MY SHIT (this is gonna give you the clue of where I am going with this later)
4. I don’t look like Jay Cutler or Jeremy Buendia but I look like I take a lot of "creatine and BCAA’s " which one of my close friends said to me when I opened up to them about my gear. So I don’t look like a bodybuilder by no means but I can stand out of a group of people my age by my size.

NOW THE MAIN ISSUE… She doesn’t know I take gear and I don’t know if I should hide it for time being or tell her upfront. Basically I don’t want to lose her because I know for a fact that every girl/people think that “when you take steroids you get roid rage, small dick, acne, no kids” that type of thing and she is literally a keeper. I am done with the whole “college fun” thing and I can see her in my future (sounds cringy I know lol).

If All I had was a couple of pins, 2 bottles of PCT and Ai, and a couple of vials of shit it wouldn’t be a big problem… But I literally have 4 SHOE boxes STUFFED so tight that in order for them ALL to close it’s like a fuckin Tetris game lol. I have thought of hiding the gear but every girl I had met went THROUGH MY SHIT. I don’t know where the fuck to hide 4 boxes in a 600 sqft place, like hiding in my car is dumb as hell because this texas heat will kill, and I’m definitely NOT putting shit in my gym bros places ethier.

I already know the replies I am gonna get from saying I got 4 shoeboxes full of shit so let me clear this out:

1. I am not a roid addict or have body dysmorphia
2. 1 box is full of syringes, gauges, and loads of wipes
3. I like to have PCT, AI’s, Tudca, SERM’s always stocked up in case something happens
4. I buy in bulk because I get a fat discount (not too big of a discount but enough to where I can still buy Uni textbooks too lol)
5. No I don’t Sell shit because I don’t want to have competition or be reliable for someone’s stupidity.

Thanks for reading this and I hope I can get some help on here because I don’t wanna ask friends that just have “fun” with girls.

 

[adr]

You need to take a chill pill bro. You are way too stressed out about this, and you care way too much what people think.

If you really want a future with this girl, you need to be able to talk to her about it openly and show her there’s nothing to be worried about. You don’t have to go out and tell everyone, but communication is pretty important, especially in cases like this. At some point it’s going to come out though, so would you rather have been caught in a lie, or have been open from the start? Why be with someone if they can’t put up with your steroid usage down the line? I’ve never hid it from women, and I can’t say any of them have ever actually cared because I’m not an asshole.

 

[system]

My opinion is to always be transparent if you are serious about somebody. Think of it like this: if a girl were taking medication for depression, PTSD, anxiety, even smoking weed, whatever, every day, and you wanted to get serious with her, would you want to know about this stuff, and if so, earlier or later? I know that I would, absolutely, and as early on as possible before I’ve invested even more time/emotion. I’ve been transparent with everybody in my life since day one. Not one time have I had steroids blamed for anything. Why? Because I don’t act like a fucking asshole, I don’t yell, I don’t get into arguments, I don’t fight people, I’m calm, flexible and the opposite of on edge. If you don’t get mad, people won’t have anything to blame your anger on in the first place (‘roid rage’). Further, would you want to date a girl who is against steroids to the point she’d drop you on the spot and overlook all of the great attributes about you and the connection/bond you’ve formed? It’s better to know how she truly feels early on because she will find out one day - what if you’re X years invested and she finds out, then leaves you over it? You’d rather have just had that happen now, right? Before you waste years of your life on somebody incompatible with your lifestyle. If she’s truly this great girl who could “be the one” the way you think that she is, she’s going to be open minded and won’t just drop you because of one thing she may or may not disagree with.

This isn’t to say that if she expresses discontent with it that everything is over, if she’s open to becoming more educated and hearing you out, things can still work and her views can change. Now, if she’s dead set on it being 100% unacceptable morally, then your options are to either respect that and stop because you value the potential relationship with her over the gear, or to end things with her and proceed as you wish with all the gear you want.

Lying is bad. Lying to your friends is bad. Lying to your family is bad. Lying to your SO is bad. It’s immoral and it’s inexcusable. If a SO lied to me about drug use it would be a deal breaker, but if they were upfront I would be open to hearing about it and even if I did disagree I could work with her or entertain the possibility of finding middle ground. Once it’s lied about or hidden (hiding it is lying) there is no being open to hearing about it, that’s all I need to know to determine her moral compass isn’t compatible with mine. If somebody can lie about X they can lie about Y, severity/significance is irrelevant.

I’m brown like you btw, so I understand the culture and family aspect you’re referencing. It’s not cringy at all to want to settle down, start a family and love somebody unconditionally.

 

[thaatkiid6813]

Wait people will really go through your shoe boxes??? Wow… I’ve never had anyone go through my shit. (That or they never found anything worth confronting me about lol)

 

[PersianBody19]

kingofcarbz" pid='93352' dateline='1593199924:

My opinion is to always be transparent if you are serious about somebody. Think of it like this: if a girl were taking medication for depression, PTSD, anxiety, even smoking weed, whatever, every day, and you wanted to get serious with her, would you want to know about this stuff, and if so, earlier or later? I know that I would, absolutely, and as early on as possible before I’ve invested even more time/emotion. I’ve been transparent with everybody in my life since day one. Not one time have I had steroids blamed for anything. Why? Because I don’t act like a fucking asshole, I don’t yell, I don’t get into arguments, I don’t fight people, I’m calm, flexible and the opposite of on edge. If you don’t get mad, people won’t have anything to blame your anger on in the first place (‘roid rage’). Further, would you want to date a girl who is against steroids to the point she’d drop you on the spot and overlook all of the great attributes about you and the connection/bond you’ve formed? It’s better to know how she truly feels early on because she will find out one day - what if you’re X years invested and she finds out, then leaves you over it? You’d rather have just had that happen now, right? Before you waste years of your life on somebody incompatible with your lifestyle. If she’s truly this great girl who could “be the one” the way you think that she is, she’s going to be open minded and won’t just drop you because of one thing she may or may not disagree with.

This isn’t to say that if she expresses discontent with it that everything is over, if she’s open to becoming more educated and hearing you out, things can still work and her views can change. Now, if she’s dead set on it being 100% unacceptable morally, then your options are to either respect that and stop because you value the potential relationship with her over the gear, or to end things with her and proceed as you wish with all the gear you want.

Lying is bad. Lying to your friends is bad. Lying to your family is bad. Lying to your SO is bad. It’s immoral and it’s inexcusable. If a SO lied to me about drug use it would be a deal breaker, but if they were upfront I would be open to hearing about it and even if I did disagree I could work with her or entertain the possibility of finding middle ground. Once it’s lied about or hidden (hiding it is lying) there is no being open to hearing about it, that’s all I need to know to determine her moral compass isn’t compatible with mine. If somebody can lie about X they can lie about Y, severity/significance is irrelevant.

I’m brown like you btw, so I understand the culture and family aspect you’re referencing. It’s not cringy at all to want to settle down, start a family and love somebody unconditionally.

I appreciate your reply bro, I am definitely gonna have to open up to her because I wouldn’t know how to keep this in especially if I spend the rest of my life with her.

respect on the brown ppl point of view lol

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adr" pid='93351' dateline='1593199205:

You need to take a chill pill bro. You are way too stressed out about this, and you care way too much what people think.

If you really want a future with this girl, you need to be able to talk to her about it openly and show her there’s nothing to be worried about. You don’t have to go out and tell everyone, but communication is pretty important, especially in cases like this. At some point it’s going to come out though, so would you rather have been caught in a lie, or have been open from the start? Why be with someone if they can’t put up with your steroid usage down the line? I’ve never hid it from women, and I can’t say any of them have ever actually cared because I’m not an asshole.

I do agree with you too bro, definitely gonna have to open up

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thaatkiid6813" pid='93353' dateline='1593200079:

Wait people will really go through your shoe boxes??? Wow… I’ve never had anyone go through my shit. (That or they never found anything worth confronting me about lol)

That’s why I kept saying my place is 600sqft lol. yeah, I kept those shoeboxes in my kitchen next to the front door because I would pin then head to the class right after. pre-class ritual lol

 

[Beesting97]

Simple and easy bro buy a safe… and if it’s a real relationship just tell her eventually. She already knows you’re not the stereotypical roidrage dbag so it shouldn’t be a big deal, never has been for me.

 

[bodydysmorphia]

She likely already knows.

That said, be honest and open. I told my now fiancee on our first date that I take steroids.

If you using steroids is a deal breaker, find out now instead of a year from now when she finds them.

 

[PersianBody19]

bodydysmorphia" pid='93360' dateline='1593205393:

She likely already knows.

That said, be honest and open. I told my now fiancee on our first date that I take steroids.

If you using steroids is a deal breaker, find out now instead of a year from now when she finds them.

I agree with you bro I gotta do it right

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Beesting97" pid='93357' dateline='1593205151:

Simple and easy bro buy a safe… and if it’s a real relationship just tell her eventually. She already knows you’re not the stereotypical roidrage dbag so it shouldn’t be a big deal, never has been for me.

Yeah I def gonna tell her about it

 

[DHT]

Bro don’t tell her shit.
It’s not her fucking business unless you’re married and even then thats up to you
This is a personal choice, its a medication. You don’t owe anyone shit.
If there some fallout when you guys break up, you just gave someone that hates you leverage against you life to put you in jail. Not to mention rumors and social life etc.
Literally no good comes from it. Except some fairy tale “oh hes sooo honest”
Thats weak, you’re showing your hand, you’re making yourself vulnerable.
I’m really surprised a couple people have said to blab to someone you’ve known for a couple months about the felony in your possession because of some abstract morality. (FOUR SHOE BOXES)
Shits weak, you gonna confess all your sins to her too? You want her approval on everything?

I want EVERYONE to comment on this so I can school you youngins
“But… but…she LET me have sex with her! if I don’t tell her everything i took advantage of her! I have higher than average testosterone! She needs to know!”

 

[dudebro73]

DHT" pid='93689' dateline='1593631357:

Bro don’t tell her shit.
It’s not her fucking business unless you’re married and even then thats up to you
This is a personal choice, its a medication. You don’t owe anyone shit.
If there some fallout when you guys break up, you just gave someone that hates you leverage against you life to put you in jail. Not to mention rumors and social life etc.
Literally no good comes from it. Except some fairy tale “oh hes sooo honest”
Thats weak, you’re showing your hand, you’re making yourself vulnerable.
I’m really surprised a couple people have said to blab to someone you’ve known for a couple months about the felony in your possession because of some abstract morality. (FOUR SHOE BOXES)
Shits weak, you gonna confess all your sins to her too? You want her approval on everything?

I want EVERYONE to comment on this so I can school you youngins
“But… but…she LET me have sex with her! if I don’t tell her everything i took advantage of her! I have higher than average testosterone! She needs to know!”

^ Pay attention to what this fucker is saying, young gun. This is how you roll. Also, if this chick goes through your shit behind your back then she is not a keeper. Invading someone’s privacy like that is a serious betrayal of trust and an instant deal breaker. Actually, considering the possible repercussions don’t leave any person alone in your digs.

 

[PersianBody19]

dudebro73" pid='93999' dateline='1593955680:

DHT" pid='93689' dateline='1593631357:

Bro don’t tell her shit.
It’s not her fucking business unless you’re married and even then thats up to you
This is a personal choice, its a medication. You don’t owe anyone shit.
If there some fallout when you guys break up, you just gave someone that hates you leverage against you life to put you in jail. Not to mention rumors and social life etc.
Literally no good comes from it. Except some fairy tale “oh hes sooo honest”
Thats weak, you’re showing your hand, you’re making yourself vulnerable.
I’m really surprised a couple people have said to blab to someone you’ve known for a couple months about the felony in your possession because of some abstract morality. (FOUR SHOE BOXES)
Shits weak, you gonna confess all your sins to her too? You want her approval on everything?

I want EVERYONE to comment on this so I can school you youngins
“But… but…she LET me have sex with her! if I don’t tell her everything i took advantage of her! I have higher than average testosterone! She needs to know!”

^ Pay attention to what this fucker is saying, young gun. This is how you roll. Also, if this chick goes through your shit behind your back then she is not a keeper. Invading someone’s privacy like that is a serious betrayal of trust and an instant deal breaker. Actually, considering the possible repercussions don’t leave any person alone in your digs.

I appreciate your reply bro, you are completely right and this def opened my eyes after posting on here.

 

[bodydysmorphia]

PersianBody19" pid='94004' dateline='1593967922:

dudebro73" pid='93999' dateline='1593955680:

DHT" pid='93689' dateline='1593631357:

Bro don’t tell her shit.
It’s not her fucking business unless you’re married and even then thats up to you
This is a personal choice, its a medication. You don’t owe anyone shit.
If there some fallout when you guys break up, you just gave someone that hates you leverage against you life to put you in jail. Not to mention rumors and social life etc.
Literally no good comes from it. Except some fairy tale “oh hes sooo honest”
Thats weak, you’re showing your hand, you’re making yourself vulnerable.
I’m really surprised a couple people have said to blab to someone you’ve known for a couple months about the felony in your possession because of some abstract morality. (FOUR SHOE BOXES)
Shits weak, you gonna confess all your sins to her too? You want her approval on everything?

I want EVERYONE to comment on this so I can school you youngins
“But… but…she LET me have sex with her! if I don’t tell her everything i took advantage of her! I have higher than average testosterone! She needs to know!”

^ Pay attention to what this fucker is saying, young gun. This is how you roll. Also, if this chick goes through your shit behind your back then she is not a keeper. Invading someone’s privacy like that is a serious betrayal of trust and an instant deal breaker. Actually, considering the possible repercussions don’t leave any person alone in your digs.

I appreciate your reply bro, you are completely right and this def opened my eyes after posting on here.

I’d disregard all the redpilled people here personally.

Steroids, jail?

ya okay unless you own a UGL you aren’t going to jail, no one cares. Everyones does steroids now adays. There is literally nothing that can be used against you if you broke up.

Just tell her, don’t be such a pussy. Never understand the beta nerds who are afraid of telling women about their addiction because of some fake leverage.

Be a real man and just be honest.

 

[PersianBody19]

bodydysmorphia" pid='94005' dateline='1593971174:

PersianBody19" pid='94004' dateline='1593967922:

dudebro73" pid='93999' dateline='1593955680:

DHT" pid='93689' dateline='1593631357:

Bro don’t tell her shit.
It’s not her fucking business unless you’re married and even then thats up to you
This is a personal choice, its a medication. You don’t owe anyone shit.
If there some fallout when you guys break up, you just gave someone that hates you leverage against you life to put you in jail. Not to mention rumors and social life etc.
Literally no good comes from it. Except some fairy tale “oh hes sooo honest”
Thats weak, you’re showing your hand, you’re making yourself vulnerable.
I’m really surprised a couple people have said to blab to someone you’ve known for a couple months about the felony in your possession because of some abstract morality. (FOUR SHOE BOXES)
Shits weak, you gonna confess all your sins to her too? You want her approval on everything?

I want EVERYONE to comment on this so I can school you youngins
“But… but…she LET me have sex with her! if I don’t tell her everything i took advantage of her! I have higher than average testosterone! She needs to know!”

^ Pay attention to what this fucker is saying, young gun. This is how you roll. Also, if this chick goes through your shit behind your back then she is not a keeper. Invading someone’s privacy like that is a serious betrayal of trust and an instant deal breaker. Actually, considering the possible repercussions don’t leave any person alone in your digs.

I appreciate your reply bro, you are completely right and this def opened my eyes after posting on here.

I’d disregard all the redpilled people here personally.

Steroids, jail?

ya okay unless you own a UGL you aren’t going to jail, no one cares. Everyones does steroids now adays. There is literally nothing that can be used against you if you broke up.

Just tell her, don’t be such a pussy. Never understand the beta nerds who are afraid of telling women about their addiction because of some fake leverage.

Be a real man and just be honest.

I appreciate your reply bro, I def was afraid of the whole legality issue (not a prob anymore) but Im telling her when she comes this weekend.

 

[dudebro73]

PersianBody19" pid='94009' dateline='1593974981:

bodydysmorphia" pid='94005' dateline='1593971174:

PersianBody19" pid='94004' dateline='1593967922:

dudebro73" pid='93999' dateline='1593955680:

DHT" pid='93689' dateline='1593631357:

Bro don’t tell her shit.
It’s not her fucking business unless you’re married and even then thats up to you
This is a personal choice, its a medication. You don’t owe anyone shit.
If there some fallout when you guys break up, you just gave someone that hates you leverage against you life to put you in jail. Not to mention rumors and social life etc.
Literally no good comes from it. Except some fairy tale “oh hes sooo honest”
Thats weak, you’re showing your hand, you’re making yourself vulnerable.
I’m really surprised a couple people have said to blab to someone you’ve known for a couple months about the felony in your possession because of some abstract morality. (FOUR SHOE BOXES)
Shits weak, you gonna confess all your sins to her too? You want her approval on everything?

I want EVERYONE to comment on this so I can school you youngins
“But… but…she LET me have sex with her! if I don’t tell her everything i took advantage of her! I have higher than average testosterone! She needs to know!”

^ Pay attention to what this fucker is saying, young gun. This is how you roll. Also, if this chick goes through your shit behind your back then she is not a keeper. Invading someone’s privacy like that is a serious betrayal of trust and an instant deal breaker. Actually, considering the possible repercussions don’t leave any person alone in your digs.

I appreciate your reply bro, you are completely right and this def opened my eyes after posting on here.

I’d disregard all the redpilled people here personally.

Steroids, jail?

ya okay unless you own a UGL you aren’t going to jail, no one cares. Everyones does steroids now adays. There is literally nothing that can be used against you if you broke up.

Just tell her, don’t be such a pussy. Never understand the beta nerds who are afraid of telling women about their addiction because of some fake leverage.

Be a real man and just be honest.

I appreciate your reply bro, I def was afraid of the whole legality issue (not a prob anymore) but Im telling her when she comes this weekend.

I’d disregard all the blue-pilled cucks here personally, bro. If you have as much gear as you say (2 shoe boxes?) you won’t be able to claim that as personal use, the cops can charge possession with intent to distribute. Only a fool would encourage you to ignore jail time as a serious possibility.

Think of it from a game theory perspective: you have much to lose by telling her at this point and nothing tangible to gain. Be a real man and just keep your business to yourself.

Good luck whatever you choose to do, bro.

 

[bodydysmorphia]

PersianBody19" pid='94009' dateline='1593974981:

bodydysmorphia" pid='94005' dateline='1593971174:

PersianBody19" pid='94004' dateline='1593967922:

dudebro73" pid='93999' dateline='1593955680:

DHT" pid='93689' dateline='1593631357:

Bro don’t tell her shit.
It’s not her fucking business unless you’re married and even then thats up to you
This is a personal choice, its a medication. You don’t owe anyone shit.
If there some fallout when you guys break up, you just gave someone that hates you leverage against you life to put you in jail. Not to mention rumors and social life etc.
Literally no good comes from it. Except some fairy tale “oh hes sooo honest”
Thats weak, you’re showing your hand, you’re making yourself vulnerable.
I’m really surprised a couple people have said to blab to someone you’ve known for a couple months about the felony in your possession because of some abstract morality. (FOUR SHOE BOXES)
Shits weak, you gonna confess all your sins to her too? You want her approval on everything?

I want EVERYONE to comment on this so I can school you youngins
“But… but…she LET me have sex with her! if I don’t tell her everything i took advantage of her! I have higher than average testosterone! She needs to know!”

^ Pay attention to what this fucker is saying, young gun. This is how you roll. Also, if this chick goes through your shit behind your back then she is not a keeper. Invading someone’s privacy like that is a serious betrayal of trust and an instant deal breaker. Actually, considering the possible repercussions don’t leave any person alone in your digs.

I appreciate your reply bro, you are completely right and this def opened my eyes after posting on here.

I’d disregard all the redpilled people here personally.

Steroids, jail?

ya okay unless you own a UGL you aren’t going to jail, no one cares. Everyones does steroids now adays. There is literally nothing that can be used against you if you broke up.

Just tell her, don’t be such a pussy. Never understand the beta nerds who are afraid of telling women about their addiction because of some fake leverage.

Be a real man and just be honest.

I appreciate your reply bro, I def was afraid of the whole legality issue (not a prob anymore) but Im telling her when she comes this weekend.

You’ll be okay. Honesty is important in a relationship, drug use should never be a secret.

 

[MikeAlstott]

Why do you need to tell this person? You don’t even know her very well… Ever heard of the phrase “wait to worry” ??? Yea… apply that.

 

[DHT]

Telling her is an example of being young and naive. You’re your own man so you can make your own decisions when it comes to this… which also the same reason why you shouldn’t tell her. We all have stuff about us that is in our best interest to not willfully divulge. Again, you don’t owe anyone anything. Is she going to tell you everything? Are you going to tell her about all the times you’ve fucked other women? Is she going to tell you all the times shes hooked up with some random dude? Basically, bringing this up gives her power in the relationship and sets a bad precedent. A precedent where you need her approval for things.

You alluded to having traditional views on relationships. Picture a man in the 1950s… Would he willfully tell a broad things about himself for no reason? Shes not your priest, shes not your father… thats not her position and placing her in that position is not something a strong traditional male would do…Thats not even the position she wants to be in. Women look to men for guidance, men are leaders. By bringing this up to her, out of the blue, you’re making her the leader. A rough example of this is at a job, you have a problem or a concern, do you immediately run and tell a peer/coworker, or do you handle it yourself because why would you get someone else involved. If a coworker brings stuff up repeatedly to another coworker it shows they aren’t confident and look to them for guidance and approval. This is not the best anology.

This has nothing to do with her leaving you, I’m not saying this because “bro you gotta keep it a secret incase she doesnt like it and dump you!”. This is about you seeking her approval on things about your own life.

By even bringing this up out of the blue, it’s going to make gear look SERIOUS. You’re going to tell her the same way people say “Im a heroin addict”. Like you have a terminal disease she needs to know about before she gets commited to you because people with your disease die in their early 30s. Gear has nothing to do with other women, your relationship, your outlook on life or anything, again why even bring it up, and if you do she will THINK there IS some major consequence and something she will have to come to terms with and deal with down the road.

You don’t owe this random girl a thing. You think shes perfect because you’re young. And you think shes so perfect you just want to tell her everything about you good or bad, because you put her a on a pedestal

 

[CC19]

Hook them in with the D and only open up about it when things get serious/or if you’re asked. I’ve never really met anyone that cared deeply out of the serious relationships I’ve had and those that weren’t so serious never had it mentioned to them unless they were curious and asked.

 

[DHT]

CC19" pid='95134' dateline='1595483182:

Hook them in with the D and only open up about it when things get serious/or if you’re asked. I’ve never really met anyone that cared deeply out of the serious relationships I’ve had and those that weren’t so serious never had it mentioned to them unless they were curious and asked.

It’s too late bro, the younger ones are told masculine traits like having a spine, handling your own business, not seeking approval from others, are bad. They want their girlfriend to be their mommy

 

[bodydysmorphia]

DHT" pid='95167' dateline='1595542846:

CC19" pid='95134' dateline='1595483182:

Hook them in with the D and only open up about it when things get serious/or if you’re asked. I’ve never really met anyone that cared deeply out of the serious relationships I’ve had and those that weren’t so serious never had it mentioned to them unless they were curious and asked.

It’s too late bro, the younger ones are told masculine traits like having a spine, handling your own business, not seeking approval from others, are bad. They want their girlfriend to be their mommy

Nothing as spineless as hiding drug addictions from your significant other.