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Is it possible or am I overthinking?

KillTheKing

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Is it possible to get e2 symptoms, mainly sensitive nips, after only 2 pins of test c? Not necessarily sore, just different. First one was 150 and second one was 100. This is my first cycle so maybe I'm just overthinking it. I did have blood work before I started, but I only had test and free test done. I'm planning on doing mid cycle blood work around 6 weeks.
 
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Guc_Nukem

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Yes. Most folks blasting with enanthate/cypionate, or shorter esters usually have to start taking AI between their 2nd and 3rd pins.

Also, if you're using Test C, why only run for 6 weeks? You're hopping off cycle a week or two after it reaches saturation. That just sounds like a waste of money and testosterone to me.
 

KillTheKing

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Yes. Most folks blasting with enanthate/cypionate, or shorter esters usually have to start taking AI between their 2nd and 3rd pins.

Also, if you're using Test C, why only run for 6 weeks? You're hopping off cycle a week or two after it reaches saturation. That just sounds like a waste of money and testosterone to me.
I'm going to do it for at least 16 weeks. I was saying I'm going to have blood work around 6 weeks to check everything.

I'll give it a few more days. I have Nolva and Aromasin so maybe I'll take half an Aromasin twice a week to see if that helps.
 

Guc_Nukem

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I'm going to do it for at least 16 weeks. I was saying I'm going to have blood work around 6 weeks to check everything.

I'll give it a few more days. I have Nolva and Aromasin so maybe I'll take half an Aromasin twice a week to see if that helps.

Gotcha, I misunderstood you then. Yes, I would start with 6.25mg of asin on the days you pin, and titrate up as needed.

If you have symptoms now, no need to hesitate or wait until you next pin. You can take it now, and then take the asin again on the pin after your next, depending on how close you are taking the asin to your next pin that is.
 
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I'm going to do it for at least 16 weeks. I was saying I'm going to have blood work around 6 weeks to check everything.

I'll give it a few more days. I have Nolva and Aromasin so maybe I'll take half an Aromasin twice a week to see if that helps.
Honestly, you are likely better off just getting on a schedule with AI til you get the hang of it. Like half a tab every 7-10 days or so and see how it goes. Gyno is a bitch once it starts.

I have aromasin and arimidex. I take 12.5mg aromasin every ten days or so. If I am using arimidex I'll take half a tab or .5mg every Sunday. If I forget I just skip it so it doesn't tank me for taking too much just in case and just use as needed the following week.

Good luck
 

MuscleMongoose

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Honestly, you are likely better off just getting on a schedule with AI til you get the hang of it. Like half a tab every 7-10 days or so and see how it goes. Gyno is a bitch once it starts.

I have aromasin and arimidex. I take 12.5mg aromasin every ten days or so. If I am using arimidex I'll take half a tab or .5mg every Sunday. If I forget I just skip it so it doesn't tank me for taking too much just in case and just use as needed the following week.

Good luck
Yeah I was one of those people when I first started who never took ai because all I heard was ai are bad ai are terrible don’t take ai high estrogen is good etc

Now I have two permanent pea size lumps under both nipples. While blasting the left one can be managed with ai but my right one always gets worse and more noticeable

Pain in the ass.

Wish I did ai from the start
 

MuscleMongoose

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Yeah I was one of those people when I first started who never took ai because all I heard was ai are bad ai are terrible don’t take ai high estrogen is good etc

Now I have two permanent pea size lumps under both nipples. While blasting the left one can be managed with ai but my right one always gets worse and more noticeable

Pain in the ass.

Wish I did ai from the start
I’m starting to suspect the people who scream DoNt ToUcH Ai EvEn iF YoUr E2 iS aT 90

Are the people who have gyno and want everyone else to have it too lol

It’s Borderline mentally insane how some people are afraid to touch an ai but they have no problem injecting tren made in some bathtub from China.
 

KillTheKing

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I’m starting to suspect the people who scream DoNt ToUcH Ai EvEn iF YoUr E2 iS aT 90

Are the people who have gyno and want everyone else to have it too lol

It’s Borderline mentally insane how some people are afraid to touch an ai but they have no problem injecting tren made in some bathtub from China.
I injected heroin and meth for many years and never once asked where it came from lol. I'm not sure why this bothers me so much. I guess because I'm finally trying to get healthy. My test level was 198 on one test and 210 on the next. I can't feel much worse than I was feeling.
 

MuscleMongoose

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I injected heroin and meth for many years and never once asked where it came from lol. I'm not sure why this bothers me so much. I guess because I'm finally trying to get healthy. My test level was 198 on one test and 210 on the next. I can't feel much worse than I was feeling.
Yeah I get that totally.

I just find it bonkers people will run massive amounts of test or other compounds without any thought of how dangerous that is… but then when you mention take an ai to keep your estrogen in check they act like they will die from it. It’s just comical.

Then someone else made a good point when people say for ancillaries or pct go pharma only no ugl !!!!

Okay? But the whole cycle you just ran wasn’t Pharma….it was ugl….

So the whole notion about ai are bad ! High estrogen is good! Is all bullshit imo

If you need to take ai so you don’t get gyno or other e2 symptoms the take the damn ai
 
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Yeah I was one of those people when I first started who never took ai because all I heard was ai are bad ai are terrible don’t take ai high estrogen is good etc

Now I have two permanent pea size lumps under both nipples. While blasting the left one can be managed with ai but my right one always gets worse and more noticeable

Pain in the ass.

Wish I did ai from the start
Try 4 or 5 days of novaldex should clear that up. 20mg a day worked for me
 

MuscleMongoose

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Try 4 or 5 days of novaldex should clear that up. 20mg a day worked for me
I’ve tried 3-4 weeks of nolvadex 20mg everyday and it still didn’t touch them. But I was also blasting then.

So either it’s permanent gyno or my actual nipple gland that I am mistaken for gyno. But I’m almost positive it’s gyno cause in the mirror in certain lightings you can see the gyno lump like everyone has
 
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I’ve tried 3-4 weeks of nolvadex 20mg everyday and it still didn’t touch them. But I was also blasting then.

So either it’s permanent gyno or my actual nipple gland that I am mistaken for gyno. But I’m almost positive it’s gyno cause in the mirror in certain lightings you can see the gyno lump like everyone has
Sucks. You're right though for people reading. I don't care what anyone says. If you are on gear ( any amount )keep and eye on your estrogen and take something to manage it. Yeah AI isn't good for you, but neither are everything else you're taking. Gotta take measures to prevent further issues. I'm a little drunk rn so if this is ranting my apologies
 

MuscleMongoose

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Sucks. You're right though for people reading. I don't care what anyone says. If you are on gear ( any amount )keep and eye on your estrogen and take something to manage it. Yeah AI isn't good for you, but neither are everything else you're taking. Gotta take measures to prevent further issues. I'm a little drunk rn so if this is ranting my apologies
Hey man if I still drank I’d be drinking some brews and popping arimidex all night 😂

Have a few shots for musclemongoose !!!
 
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