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Kratom - Different strains?

HeathGT

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I recently tried kratom for the first time. It seems to give me energy in the morning and now I don’t have to drink coffee. I’ve just been taking baby doses, 1g twice a day. My question is: Are the different colors/strains really all that different? I’ve tried a couple but at only 1g dose I haven’t been able to tell much difference. Which ones are the best, which do you guys recommend?
 
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I… am conflicted about this thread because it’s legality is changing across the states… just don’t be cunts or source mkay?
 
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HeathGT

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Ah, yeah you can buy it anywhere here (central southern US) . It’s in stores, clearnet, etc. My bad.
 
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Ah, yeah you can buy it anywhere here (central southern US) . It’s in stores, clearnet, etc. My bad.
You’re good my man, I can walk down the street and buy a kilo apparently, I just learned. Convo is good AKAIK, my opinion being outside sourcing due to some legality.

Anyway, didn’t mean to impede conversation <3 will see myself out haha.

(PS, I used the shit in some tea, it tastes…like smashed asshole…imo)
 
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HeathGT

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I just took 2g preworkout and had one of the best shoulder/trap days I’ve ever had. It definitely gives me a energy/mood boost. I was drinking coffee and/or taking caffeine daily but haven’t had any last few days taking Kratom, and I actually feel better. You’re right though it does taste like sour/bitter asshole lol
 
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thallandchill

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HeathGT" pid='70608' dateline='1570213442:
Ah, yeah you can buy it anywhere here (central southern US) . It’s in stores, clearnet, etc. My bad.
You’re good my man, I can walk down the street and buy a kilo apparently, I just learned. Convo is good AKAIK, my opinion being outside sourcing due to some legality.

Anyway, didn’t mean to impede conversation <3 will see myself out haha.

(PS, I used the shit in some tea, it tastes…like smashed asshole…imo)
Smashed asshole should be a part of any balanced breakfast, sir.
 
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yelruP

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I prefer reds/greens as they seem to have the best effect in easing anxiety. Whites usually make me jittery and worsen my anxiety, similar to how caffeine would be.

Red = Slow
Green = Middle
White = Fast
 
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HeathGT

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I prefer reds/greens as they seem to have the best effect in easing anxiety. Whites usually make me jittery and worsen my anxiety, similar to how caffeine would be.

Red = Slow
Green = Middle
White = Fast
What kinda dosage do you recommend? I was doing just 1g in the am and 1g in the afternoon last couple days, but from everything I read those are baby doses.
 
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yelruP

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I prefer reds/greens as they seem to have the best effect in easing anxiety. Whites usually make me jittery and worsen my anxiety, similar to how caffeine would be.

Red = Slow
Green = Middle
White = Fast
What kinda dosage do you recommend? I was doing just 1g in the am and 1g in the afternoon last couple days, but from everything I read those are baby doses.
I do 5g, but I worked my way up to that. I started around 1g too, I recommend not going overboard on dosage or else you get some pretty negative effects and zero positive effects. Wobbles/nausea are no fun
 
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JPelle

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I guess Bali is more sedative and Maeng Da is more stimulating. Honestly I don’t notice much of a difference.

Just be careful with the shit. I’ve been taking it for 2ish years and now if I go more than 8-12 hours without I start to get mild opiate withdrawal symptoms (runny nose, GI issues, etc). YMMV.
 
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HeathGT

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I guess Bali is more sedative and Maeng Da is more stimulating. Honestly I don’t notice much of a difference.

Just be careful with the shit. I’ve been taking it for 2ish years and now if I go more than 8-12 hours without I start to get mild opiate withdrawal symptoms (runny nose, GI issues, etc). YMMV.
How much do you take, what is your dosage like and how often?
 
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dexes

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Be careful with this opiate shit. It will give withdrawals, it is addictive by nature. Sort of reminds me of the “stimulative” effect the Oxy’s have. Only the best pain killers you can have the energy to work, clean and take care of the kids. Regardless of legality I wish, or this forum not being harm reduction, that this substance was banned from being talked about on the board.
 
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Be careful with this opiate shit. It will give withdrawals, it is addictive by nature. Sort of reminds me of the “stimulative” effect the Oxy’s have. Only the best pain killers you can have the energy to work, clean and take care of the kids. Regardless of legality I wish, or this forum not being harm reduction, that this substance was banned from being talked about on the board.
I was taking Kratom for a bit and when I stopped it sucked. It wasn’t near as bad as coming off of Oxy but overall not an enjoyable experience. I still have some but haven’t touched it since.

There are worse things out there by far but this doesn’t come without its consequences.
 
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halfjack

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Be careful with this opiate shit. It will give withdrawals, it is addictive by nature. Sort of reminds me of the “stimulative” effect the Oxy’s have. Only the best pain killers you can have the energy to work, clean and take care of the kids. Regardless of legality I wish, or this forum not being harm reduction, that this substance was banned from being talked about on the board.
So instead of having adult conversations about it, we should just ban it? Isn’t this the “Off Topic” forum? Now if it was heroin that was being discussed, I would agree, but the discussion is a legal substance that many use. I take aspirin every once in a while for headaches. Should we ban that conversation since aspirin kills 3,000 people a year?
 
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dexes

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Be careful with this opiate shit. It will give withdrawals, it is addictive by nature. Sort of reminds me of the “stimulative” effect the Oxy’s have. Only the best pain killers you can have the energy to work, clean and take care of the kids. Regardless of legality I wish, or this forum not being harm reduction, that this substance was banned from being talked about on the board.
So instead of having adult conversations about it, we should just ban it? Isn’t this the “Off Topic” forum? Now if it was heroin that was being discussed, I would agree, but the discussion is a legal substance that many use. I take aspirin every once in a while for headaches. Should we ban that conversation since aspirin kills 3,000 people a year?
I agree with you 100% it’s legal and stuff like Aspirin and so on kill thousands of people. I come from a place where I saw opiates wreck many people. This stuff walks a fine line before it crosses that line. I’ve heard good things about Kraton, a lot about it procuring mild withdrawals overtime. I feel strongly about opiates, so my response is directing that tone. Open discussion can be positive, but IME/opinion, if someone doesnt understand opiates, that “good” is going to nip them in the ass hard. Aspirin doesnt cause a release of feel good brain chemicals, Kratom does. Please share your experience, I’d like to hear another experience/opinion as my knowledge isn’t too broad on this particular topic.
 
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halfjack

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Be careful with this opiate shit. It will give withdrawals, it is addictive by nature. Sort of reminds me of the “stimulative” effect the Oxy’s have. Only the best pain killers you can have the energy to work, clean and take care of the kids. Regardless of legality I wish, or this forum not being harm reduction, that this substance was banned from being talked about on the board.
So instead of having adult conversations about it, we should just ban it? Isn’t this the “Off Topic” forum? Now if it was heroin that was being discussed, I would agree, but the discussion is a legal substance that many use. I take aspirin every once in a while for headaches. Should we ban that conversation since aspirin kills 3,000 people a year?
I agree with you 100% it’s legal and stuff like Aspirin and so on kill thousands of people. I come from a place where I saw opiates wreck many people. This stuff walks a fine line before it crosses that line. I’ve heard good things about Kraton, a lot about it procuring mild withdrawals overtime. I feel strongly about opiates, so my response is directing that tone. Open discussion can be positive, but IME/opinion, if someone doesnt understand opiates, that “good” is going to nip them in the ass hard. Aspirin doesnt cause a release of feel good brain chemicals, Kratom does. Please share your experience, I’d like to hear another experience/opinion as my knowledge isn’t too broad on this particular topic.
I did not mean for my post to come across as harsh. I don’t have much experience with Kratom, but I don’t see the need to censor the subject of it here in the off topic forum as it is not illegal.
 
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Aspirin doesnt cause a release of feel good brain chemicals, Kratom does.
Oh, I thought Kratom does have a binding affinity to the dopamine receptors, but it does not activate it the same way - to a much lesser, if any, degree - that “real” opiates do. So no mind-altering effects etc.

I have heard a lot of good stuff about it from Chris Bell (and Tony Huge), that it does have a place in pain management etc. I wouldn’t use it ever though, especially not for recreational use, since I have an addictive personality.
 
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JPelle

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I guess Bali is more sedative and Maeng Da is more stimulating. Honestly I don’t notice much of a difference.

Just be careful with the shit. I’ve been taking it for 2ish years and now if I go more than 8-12 hours without I start to get mild opiate withdrawal symptoms (runny nose, GI issues, etc). YMMV.
How much do you take, what is your dosage like and how often?
Sorry for the late reply…generally take between 10-12 grams spread throughout the day (like 5 total dosings). Smoke shop capsules. Tapered to this point from 20ish. Will probably cut down to like 7 and then jump off because it kills my sex drive and my body metabolizes it so quickly it gives me mood fluctuations throughout the day.

The kick seems more mental than physical, and much milder than kicking a real opiate habit (kicked IV heroin and oxymorphone a dozen times), but still…anything resembling an opiate detox isn’t fun by any means.
 
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Are we allowed to post the SST version, but for kratom?

I met Chris Bell a while back and watched his Netflix movie. Awesome guy, decent product ( I prefer Kelly Dunns products though).
I’m on 2g of green and 1g of white, 2x daily. Changes my mood in a good way and gets me thinking more. Also less body aches.
 
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Haven’t looked into all the different strains, but I believe the white strains like Maeng Da are what people tend to find the best for physical performance. It’s supposed to help you feel more energized and also provide some pain tolerance.
 
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