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Iv ran roughly 4 cycles now between them iv used test obviously deca / npp masteron anavar and proviron I haven't really ventured out of these compounds I'm looking for something different this time 28 200 lbs 5 10 very little fat looking to do a decent bulk before summer then cut looking for overall size give me some advice on what you would run thanks in advance!!
 

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for size, change your diet and up the carbs and protein, UNLESS you respond better to high fats and low carbs. then add dbol and focus on contracting the muscle through your lifts so we dont just add water weight. at the start of the cycle, have your test, eq, dbol and run those and have (whatever "cutting compound"), minus the dbol for the majority of your cycle, then when youre ready to cut, drop the test c/e for test p(or faster acting to drop water weight) then drop the test low to 100-200 and run your eq high and (whatever "cutting compound") add once you drop your calories and carb cycle. only eat your carbs pre and post work out to help knock out calories.

once you get into an extreme enough cut, clen, t3/t4 combo can come into play. if youre brave enough, halo would be good too lol

if youve been in this for any length of time, you know its diet and not the compounds so i would focus on the diet and the let drugs be secondary. personally i think its too late to try and bulk then cut because summer is right around the corner and youll have an extreme cut which wont be fun.

obviously this is a hypothetical conversion and you shouldnt listen to me
 

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If I was in your position and running my fifth cycle I would go with Test+EQ+Deca or Test+Deca+Winstrol.
 

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for size, change your diet and up the carbs and protein, UNLESS you respond better to high fats and low carbs. then add dbol and focus on contracting the muscle through your lifts so we dont just add water weight. at the start of the cycle, have your test, eq, dbol and run those and have (whatever "cutting compound"), minus the dbol for the majority of your cycle, then when youre ready to cut, drop the test c/e for test p(or faster acting to drop water weight) then drop the test low to 100-200 and run your eq high and (whatever "cutting compound") add once you drop your calories and carb cycle. only eat your carbs pre and post work out to help knock out calories.

once you get into an extreme enough cut, clen, t3/t4 combo can come into play. if youre brave enough, halo would be good too lol

if youve been in this for any length of time, you know its diet and not the compounds so i would focus on the diet and the let drugs be secondary. personally i think its too late to try and bulk then cut because summer is right around the corner and youll have an extreme cut which wont be fun.

obviously this is a hypothetical conversion and you shouldnt listen to me
Well I’m wanting to throw some size on say without much (fat) I’ve got the diet nailed what compounds would you then run ?
 

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Well I’m wanting to throw some size on say without much (fat) I’ve got the diet nailed what compounds would you then run ?
test, nandrolone(npp or deca i like npp fast in fast out) eq and gh

combo of drugs are endless, depends on how you respond and can handle.
npp fucks with my emotions a lot but im strong in a deficit at 239 and still rep 315 on bench for 3x5. before anyone says its not a lot, i bodybuild and dont powerlift i just wanted to see where my strength is.
 

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npp fucks with my emotions a bit too maybe I’ll go with test npp and winstrol and add in proviron for the oral
 

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My 5th cycle was
No test 750mg Primo, 750mg NPP, 20mg superdrol last 2 weeks. Everything tapered up over 16 weeks. Great cycle
 

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test, nandrolone(npp or deca i like npp fast in fast out) eq and gh

combo of drugs are endless, depends on how you respond and can handle.
npp fucks with my emotions a lot but im strong in a deficit at 239 and still rep 315 on bench for 3x5. before anyone says its not a lot, i bodybuild and dont powerlift i just wanted to see where my strength is.
npp fucks with my emotions a bit too maybe I’ll go with test npp and winstrol and add in proviron for the oral

How many mg's did u run where it started to mess with ur emotions? Was about to add it in starting at 100 a week but am not sure when these types of sides start for most ppl
 
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If your pockets are deep..

Test E - 400-600mg
Primo E-400-800mg
inj superdrol- 5-10mg three times a week

Option 2:

Test (preferably P since you will be doing ED or EOD injections anyway)- 400-600mg
Tren A- 140mg (if you don't get too many sides and can handle it, your choice to up the dose after 2 weeks in, don't up by more than 60mg at a time)
tbol- 40mg daily first 5 weeks

Id definitely recommend ED injections if you end up with option two since its your first time running tren. Ive done 3 tren cycles and still always do ED inj when using Tren A, I don't get nearly as bad side effects this way.
 

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How many mg's did u run where it started to mess with ur emotions? Was about to add it in starting at 100 a week but am not sure when these types of sides start for most ppl
i hit 400 and had problems and im at 200-250 and still have problems. look when you run it and POSSIBLY have problems, take your a.i. RECOMMEND labs first to make sure youre high e2, but just take a step back, realize hey my life doesnt suck its the nandrolone. then continue on. thats how i get by. its fun. one min im ready to fuck whatever moves, then im ready to fight everyone, then all i wanna do is cry. lol still recommend npp.
 

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How many mg's did u run where it started to mess with ur emotions? Was about to add it in starting at 100 a week but am not sure when these types of sides start for most ppl
Right around 400 mg a week
 

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If your pockets are deep..

Test E - 400-600mg
Primo E-400-800mg
inj superdrol- 5-10mg three times a week

Option 2:

Test (preferably P since you will be doing ED or EOD injections anyway)- 400-600mg
Tren A- 140mg (if you don't get too many sides and can handle it, your choice to up the dose after 2 weeks in, don't up by more than 60mg at a time)
tbol- 40mg daily first 5 weeks

Id definitely recommend ED injections if you end up with option two since its your first time running tren. Ive done 3 tren cycles and still always do ED inj when using Tren A, I don't get nearly as bad side effects this way.
What would you say is the worst sides u get with tren over been really curious about it and have done my research on it but haven’t had the balls to actually run it lol I get mental sides off high deca doses 300-450 wonder how bad it would be on tren
 

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i hit 400 and had problems and im at 200-250 and still have problems. look when you run it and POSSIBLY have problems, take your a.i. RECOMMEND labs first to make sure youre high e2, but just take a step back, realize hey my life doesnt suck its the nandrolone. then continue on. thats how i get by. its fun. one min im ready to fuck whatever moves, then im ready to fight everyone, then all i wanna do is cry. lol still recommend npp.
Same for me lol it’s a rollercoaster I can’t have a girlfriend on that shit iv learned I just end up breaking their hearts and leaving them lol or even worse trying to re consolidate with my ex wife haha
 
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What would you say is the worst sides u get with tren over been really curious about it and have done my research on it but haven’t had the balls to actually run it lol I get mental sides off high deca doses 300-450 wonder how bad it would be on tren
Everybody loves to throw tren under the bus, as far as mental sides go, so people actually benefit from a small dose of tren (140-200mg). On the contrary tren can also f*** your mental health. It all depends on what type of person you are.

Possible good side effects from tren:

Drive
wakefullness
increase in workout intensity
confidence
increase in sex drive

Some of the possible negative sides from tren:

Night sweats (pretty much inevitable)
trouble sleeping
Anxiety
Anger Issues
trouble keeping an erection
& many more

I have both good and bad cycles with tren, a lot depends on what mindset you have going in.
 
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