Looking for advice for a second compound

[superglue]

I've been on prescribed TRT for a few years. Training for over 5 years after a really long break. I believe that while my training may not be perfect (still looking for the ideal program), it's pretty solid so I don't think that's my problem.

Currently doing a 500mg test cycle (my first) and I'm pretty underwhelmed. I'm about 8 or 9 weeks into a 20 week cycle. Going to be doing labs soon to see where my numbers are but so far I've seen no difference between this blast and my normal 150mg cruise. My weight has definitely gone up but that may be because I increased my eating intentionally during the cycle. Zero sides either so I guess that's good.

Anyway, I'd like a recommendation on what to run next? Primarily looking for more mass but the options are overwhelming. I'm reading like crazy but still having a hard time trying to pick. Deca vs NPP vs Mast vs Primo etc. How does a guy decide?

 

[makeway]

If you’re looking for straight mass, I love the old school test/deca stack. This was actually my first stack back in 2003. Excellent gains in both size and strength, but be prepared to retain some water. It’s also a good beginners cycle as both compounds don’t have any pip given you’re using normal concentrations. NPP requires frequent injections, Primo is expensive, requires 2-4ccs a week and is known for PIP; and mast isn’t very anabolic.

 

[Gbunk]

strength going up at all? Running an AI? Might be interesting to see labs. Mast and primo don’t worry about unless you are very lean as that is when they shine. Otherwise you could look at orals for a kickstart or finisher as options too?

 

[Reapercrew150]

strength going up at all? Running an AI? Might be interesting to see labs. Mast and primo don’t worry about unless you are very lean as that is when they shine. Otherwise you could look at orals for a kickstart or finisher as options too?

What orals are easiest on the liver with least bad side effects?

 

[makeway]

What orals are easiest on the liver with least bad side effects?

Anavar

 

[psauce]

For mass, deca or dianabol are my favorites. For a compound that really delivers and has almost no side effects, anavar and test is the pairing.

 

[Reapercrew150]

Anavar

Thanks. I’ll have to research Anavar.

 

[Reapercrew150]

For mass, deca or dianabol are my favorites. For a compound that really delivers and has almost no side effects, anavar and test is the pairing.

I may have to try Anavar. What will that give me that test isn’t?

 

[makeway]

I may have to try Anavar. What will that give me that test isn’t?

Very painful pumps lol.

Anavar is best used in a cut or contest prep. I know it’s a difficult concept to grasp (it was for me), but there aren’t really any orals worth taking in the offseason. The risk/reward just isn’t there. Same em for the cut.

 

[Reapercrew150]

Very painful pumps lol.

Anavar is best used in a cut or contest prep. I know it’s a difficult concept to grasp (it was for me), but there aren’t really any orals worth taking in the offseason. The risk/reward just isn’t there. Same em for the cut.

Since I’m used to injecting test, any injectables that would give me a little extra muscle building capability? The other option would be to increase my weekly 160mg dose to something higher.

 

[makeway]

Since I’m used to injecting test, any injectables that would give me a little extra muscle building capability? The other option would be to increase my weekly 160mg dose to something higher.

My first cycle back in 2003 was test and deca, and I loved every moment of it. I suggest giving test 500 + 350 NPP (50mg a day) a go. You could also run primo, but pip can be quite painful, it’s very expensive, and you’ll get 1/4 of the muscle gain of NPP. My current cycle after 20 years experience is 750 test, 500primo, 500npp, HGH, Slin, and Var if I feel like it.