Low dose tren for longer?

[dick_starbuck]

So how was it prescribed to women if it was never marketed?

Bro seriously? Even a quick Google search and Wikipedia proves what I'm saying.

Trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[BurninSeagul]

It is NOT five times stronger than testosterone. That is just broscience.

The real history of trenbolone is that it was a pharmaceutical drug called parabolan marketed in France for women experiencing osteoporosis and age related sarcopenia. It was sold in 76mg ampules of Trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate yielding 50mg of base trenbolone.

It is safe to use at that dosage and slightly higher. 100mg a week is a reasonable dose.

HOWEVER the real issue with trenbolone is that it is fairly neurotoxic, so it should be used sparingly. If you aren't stepping on stage there isn't a compelling reason to use tren in my opinion.

Prime example of neurotoxic damage from tren…. @ghostinmyhouse

 

[dick_starbuck]

Prime example of neurotoxic damage from tren…. @ghostinmyhouse

I will never understand why those who have done little in the way of educating themselves and research speak the loudest and are the MOST sure of themselves.

The idea that trenbolone is 5x as powerful as testosterone is based off of rat assays on the weight of dissected rat levator ani muscles and prostate seminal vessicals. How is that possibly reflected in tissue accruals in human beings? Especially when all human clinical trials show that at the upper end of the dosages tested for therapeutic treatment showed the same results in tissue accrual and nitrogen retention.

Who has truly experienced FIVE TIMES the growth of their muscle tissues using trenbolone vs other steroids including testosterone. If that were the case we would all be IFBB pros within a few cycles. It doesn't even pass basic scrutiny.

Trenbolone isn't used because it is 5x stronger than testosterone, it's used because of its other characteristics of direct anticatabolism through its effect on glucocorticoids, and fat burning. As well as the "look" that tren can give you at low body fat.

 

[ghostinmyhouse]

I will never understand why those who have done little in the way of educating themselves and research speak the loudest and are the MOST sure of themselves.

The idea that trenbolone is 5x as powerful as testosterone is based off of rat assays on the weight of dissected rat levator ani muscles and prostate seminal vessicals. How is that possibly reflected in tissue accruals in human beings? Especially when all human clinical trials show that at the upper end of the dosages tested for therapeutic treatment showed the same results in tissue accrual and nitrogen retention.

Who has truly experienced FIVE TIMES the growth of their muscle tissues using trenbolone vs other steroids including testosterone. If that were the case we would all be IFBB pros within a few cycles. It doesn't even pass basic scrutiny.

Trenbolone isn't used because it is 5x stronger than testosterone, it's used because of its other characteristics of direct anticatabolism through its effect on glucocorticoids, and fat burning. As well as the "look" that tren can give you at low body fat.

 

[ghostinmyhouse]

And then????

 

[dick_starbuck]

And then????

And then you should reread what I wrote previously, where I already addressed that claim.

 

[300]

What are the thoughts on running Tren A at 100mg a week for say like 13 weeks?? I would pin like 25mg EOD or 33mg 3x a week.

I am going to be doing a hard cut with semaglutide. I jumped about 5-7% BF over the last few months. My thyroid doesn't work and they switched me to a generic brand of meds and it didn't work. So getitng back into the sub 15% I was just at.

Can I run say 100mg or 150 mg tren A for like 13 weeks? Has to be better than these people that blast 400+ for 8 to 10 weeks. At least I would think The idea would be muscle preservation during a hard cut and speeding up the cut. Nutrition partitioning.

(on cruise/trt)

Ran Tren 2x before.. no big issues. Handled it well.

Even low dose tren will be toxic dude, I would look into Anavar or primo before tren.

 

[CountryGains]

Fredflinstone… not to derail your thread but I have to ask, are you the same guy with this username on getbig?

I haven’t been on there in ages but your name feels familiar lol.

 

[KillTheKing]

Prime example of neurotoxic damage from tren…. @ghostinmyhouse

Hey BurninSeagul what ever happened to all that stuff from a certain source you decided you didn't want to use? Hit me up please.

 

[psauce]

I don't think anyone has a scientifically based answer. Long term, low dose exposure or short duration, high dose exposure. I wouldn't call 100 mg/week a "low" dose, either, but I'm not a fan of tren to begin with and that's also something everyone has an opinion on.

The way I choose to think about it: if you're running a cycle, you have to be on point with your training, nutrition, sleep, and side management. If not, you're exposing your body to a bunch of stress and potential damage that you're not going to take advantage of... it's a waste of your organs. So the question is, can you stay fully dialed in for as long as you're going to run low dose tren? Are you sure that work, health, your kids, etc... nothing is going to come up that's going to get in the way of a week's worth of training?

There is something to be said for people who blast the fuck out of compounds for short periods. If you're gonna accrue that much exposure, you ought to ensure that you're maximizing the effect of each mg. The answer may have more to do with how predictable your life is and how you can manage the drugs than anything else.

 

[BurninSeagul]

Hey BurninSeagul what ever happened to all that stuff from a certain source you decided you didn't want to use? Hit me up please.

What about it? Idk what imma do with it. I already got replacements for my cycle from another source so i dont have to worry about missing pins or what not.

 

[KillTheKing]

What about it? Idk what imma do with it. I already got replacements for my cycle from another source so i dont have to worry about missing pins or what not.

Can I help you with it?

 

[FredFlinstone85]

Fredflinstone… not to derail your thread but I have to ask, are you the same guy with this username on getbig?

I haven’t been on there in ages but your name feels familiar lol.

No, thats not me. No idea

 

[FredFlinstone85]

So to get this back on track....

So like 100mg to 150mg over say 13 weeks?

Has to be less than 300 to 400mg a week for 10?

 

[Bigdovis2]

It’s called “hey siri”

My guy went off lol


Agreed, fuck tren.

 

[Bigdovis2]

So to get this back on track....

So like 100mg to 150mg over say 13 weeks?

Has to be less than 300 to 400mg a week for 10?

You can, I mean people run it 20 weeks at 500+

It’s insane, but they do it. Just get tren ace, 1 vial. See how you like it. If you enjoy it alright cool if not then alright at last you didn’t waste 100+$

To answer he question 100mg for 13 weeks I think should be completely fine.

 

[ChevoGuap]

On the anabolic scale testosterone is a 100and tren is a 500. 100 times 5 is what? Hmmm

The anabolic scale is bro science. Those studies were done on rats and their prostates.

Are you made up of a rats asshole and prostate lining? Stop watching MPMD and Greg Doucette.

Yes, tren is harmful. It’s a trade off for crazy results and possibly damaging your body. All steroids are. But it’s no worse than drinking, smoking, rec drugs, pills, etc.

The real problem is most people don’t need tren. If you’re still above 10% body fat you can probably accomplish your goals without it. But it makes no sense to try and tell people not to do drugs. The dude has done it twice already, he isn’t changing his mind because you’re citing bro science.

Most people take absurd amounts of tren. If a 500lb cattle only needs 300mg then a 200lb human can absolutely get away with 75mg.

 

[FredFlinstone85]

You can, I mean people run it 20 weeks at 500+

It’s insane, but they do it. Just get tren ace, 1 vial. See how you like it. If you enjoy it alright cool if not then alright at last you didn’t waste 100+$

To answer he question 100mg for 13 weeks I think should be completely fine.

I have ran Tren E 300 -400 2x now for 10 weeks. Besides just insane sex drive, I was pretty fine. Blood work was good too.

 

[dick_starbuck]

The anabolic scale is bro science. Those studies were done on rats and their prostates.

Are you made up of a rats asshole and prostate lining? Stop watching MPMD and Greg Doucette.

Yes, tren is harmful. It’s a trade off for crazy results and possibly damaging your body. All steroids are. But it’s no worse than drinking, smoking, rec drugs, pills, etc.

The real problem is most people don’t need tren. If you’re still above 10% body fat you can probably accomplish your goals without it. But it makes no sense to try and tell people not to do drugs. The dude has done it twice already, he isn’t changing his mind because you’re citing bro science.

Most people take absurd amounts of tren. If a 500lb cattle only needs 300mg then a 200lb human can absolutely get away with 75mg.

This. Exactly this.

 

[dick_starbuck]

So to get this back on track....

So like 100mg to 150mg over say 13 weeks?

Has to be less than 300 to 400mg a week for 10?

100mg a week is enough. I use 70-100mg per week during contest preps and usually start it 8 weeks from show day. Low sides, great results, bloodwork is always pretty good.