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Anyone have experience with this?
My co-worker is seeking either testosterone therapy or GH therapy from the VA for bone mineral density (BMD) loss. The docs at the VA have consented to provide therapy but the first thing they offered him was a T patch or an oral. I told him that I wasn’t familiar with an actual oral testosterone application. The first pubmed article does mention a test u oral though but that is new to me.
I told him that without looking at anything, I would assume that growth would be a better treatment. Pubmed has some articles that come up with a quick google search but I’m having a hard time interpreting which, test or growth, is a preferred therapy. It looks to me, like a lower dose of growth is preferred over test or even a higher dose of growth.
Any help is appreciated. Obviously, he’s going to go with what the doc prescribes but for my own interest, I’d like to know what this community believes.
The first article from Pubmed that came up indicated that testosterone therapy IS NOT a good protocol from BMD loss: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2811355/ “Despite the positive effect of androgen therapy on the bone only hypogonadism can be treated with testosterone replacement therapy, because the associated androgenic effects limit, especially in the older patient the benefits.”
2d article here but it’s just the abstract: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12414848 “We conclude that 2 yr of intermittent or continuous treatment with GH in men with idiopathic osteoporosis results in an increase in BMD and BMC that is sustained for at least 1 yr post treatment.”
My co-worker is 45yr AA male, natty test is 517 and he’s in a wheel chair for a spinal injury from 22 years ago. This came up because he wants to start competing in some type of athletic event. I told him that at 517, I’d try to avoid TRT especially being that he’s 45. His test levels are great.
My co-worker is seeking either testosterone therapy or GH therapy from the VA for bone mineral density (BMD) loss. The docs at the VA have consented to provide therapy but the first thing they offered him was a T patch or an oral. I told him that I wasn’t familiar with an actual oral testosterone application. The first pubmed article does mention a test u oral though but that is new to me.
I told him that without looking at anything, I would assume that growth would be a better treatment. Pubmed has some articles that come up with a quick google search but I’m having a hard time interpreting which, test or growth, is a preferred therapy. It looks to me, like a lower dose of growth is preferred over test or even a higher dose of growth.
Any help is appreciated. Obviously, he’s going to go with what the doc prescribes but for my own interest, I’d like to know what this community believes.
The first article from Pubmed that came up indicated that testosterone therapy IS NOT a good protocol from BMD loss: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2811355/ “Despite the positive effect of androgen therapy on the bone only hypogonadism can be treated with testosterone replacement therapy, because the associated androgenic effects limit, especially in the older patient the benefits.”
2d article here but it’s just the abstract: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12414848 “We conclude that 2 yr of intermittent or continuous treatment with GH in men with idiopathic osteoporosis results in an increase in BMD and BMC that is sustained for at least 1 yr post treatment.”
My co-worker is 45yr AA male, natty test is 517 and he’s in a wheel chair for a spinal injury from 22 years ago. This came up because he wants to start competing in some type of athletic event. I told him that at 517, I’d try to avoid TRT especially being that he’s 45. His test levels are great.
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