Mens Health Cycles ("Super Cruise")

[KingTest]

Whats up guys,

SO i have been off gear for a while now. I used to be big on big boy blasts until I realized I was becoming something I didnt really want to be. Full of myself, life revolved around gear, food, and gym, and basically my identity was simply being the big shredded dude…

Anyways I have been off for a while and have made massive life, career, and all other non-gym type of gains.

Lately I have been looking and following more of the longevity, mens health, and funtional-bodybuilding, type of dudes and they all look amazing, they can sprint, jog, run, swim, are aesthetic, be strong ,etc, instead of just being a big ole slow, winded, posing bodybuilder.

This got me thinking, how many of you have gone this route and prioritized overall perfromance and healthVs plain ole looks with big boy blasts, so you went from say 750test/500tren to say TRT test and 200 deca?

Anyone have any experiences only running small anabolics on top of TRT to just stay healthy but with a minor edge?

Ex:
TRT with Ostarine
TRT with 100mg tren
TRT with Anavar
TRT with 200mg Deca
TRT with 200mg Mast
TRT with 300mg EQ

• All of these thoughts came from meeting two 65yr old badasses on TRT that could rep 225 on bench, jog, run, and had a full set of hair. Got me thinking hard as they bashed heavy gear doses and praised their TRT and 150mg Npp cycle haha. Health is truly the only true wealth after all

Thanks!

 

[Tony_Parks]

That’s what I do. TRT is 100 mg per week. I recently decided to up the test to 200 mg per week and add another compound. I started with 200 mg of test and 200 mg of mast. I loved it. I felt great, libido was quite healthy, and got surprising strength gains from it. I also got a bit more vascular, and random people at work commented about my appearance and that I must have lost weight.

I did that for about 3 months then switched to 200 mg of test and 200 mg of EQ. That I did not like and stopped it during week 4. I had planned to do it for 16-20 weeks, but my tendons felt like they were on fire (I read anecdotes of people feeling their tendons were more brittle on EQ-first I’d heard of that) and I was irritable all the time. I’ve never had issues with anxiety, so maybe the EQ anxiety some get manifested with me as irritability.

I’m now doing 200 mg of test and 200 mg of primo. I just started this past week so too soon to report anything. About two weeks ago, while on EQ, I added 25 mg per day of anavar also. I’ve never used anavar and wanted to see if I noticed much from 25 mg. I’m planning to do that for 6 weeks.

I’ve also thrown in very small amounts (e.g., 75 mg every 10 days) of deca solely for joint relief. It seems to help.

After primo, I will either go back to mast or perhaps try 400 mg of test for 12 weeks. My aim is to keep the total mg per week at 500 or below (not counting occasional use of orals).

 

[appropionate]

test, primo and var are the compounds I was thinking of, most other stuff comes with unwelcome sides and dosing them too little would forego their benefits in my experience/opinion

 

[Booger]

KingTest" pid='44424' dateline='1552161118:

Whats up guys,

SO i have been off gear for a while now. I used to be big on big boy blasts until I realized I was becoming something I didnt really want to be. Full of myself, life revolved around gear, food, and gym, and basically my identity was simply being the big shredded dude…

Anyways I have been off for a while and have made massive life, career, and all other non-gym type of gains.

Lately I have been looking and following more of the longevity, mens health, and funtional-bodybuilding, type of dudes and they all look amazing, they can sprint, jog, run, swim, are aesthetic, be strong ,etc, instead of just being a big ole slow, winded, posing bodybuilder.

This got me thinking, how many of you have gone this route and prioritized overall perfromance and healthVs plain ole looks with big boy blasts, so you went from say 750test/500tren to say TRT test and 200 deca?

Anyone have any experiences only running small anabolics on top of TRT to just stay healthy but with a minor edge?

Ex:
TRT with Ostarine
TRT with 100mg tren
TRT with Anavar
TRT with 200mg Deca
TRT with 200mg Mast
TRT with 300mg EQ

• All of these thoughts came from meeting two 65yr old badasses on TRT that could rep 225 on bench, jog, run, and had a full set of hair. Got me thinking hard as they bashed heavy gear doses and praised their TRT and 150mg Npp cycle haha. Health is truly the only true wealth after all

Thanks!

Eq safer than deca imo

 

[UnclePopHollows]

Tony Parks" pid='44427' dateline='1552164115:

That’s what I do. TRT is 100 mg per week. I recently decided to up the test to 200 mg per week and add another compound. I started with 200 mg of test and 200 mg of mast. I loved it. I felt great, libido was quite healthy, and got surprising strength gains from it. I also got a bit more vascular, and random people at work commented about my appearance and that I must have lost weight.

I did that for about 3 months then switched to 200 mg of test and 200 mg of EQ. That I did not like and stopped it during week 4. I had planned to do it for 16-20 weeks, but my tendons felt like they were on fire (I read anecdotes of people feeling their tendons were more brittle on EQ-first I’d heard of that) and I was irritable all the time. I’ve never had issues with anxiety, so maybe the EQ anxiety some get manifested with me as irritability.

I’m now doing 200 mg of test and 200 mg of primo. I just started this past week so too soon to report anything. About two weeks ago, while on EQ, I added 25 mg per day of anavar also. I’ve never used anavar and wanted to see if I noticed much from 25 mg. I’m planning to do that for 6 weeks.

I’ve also thrown in very small amounts (e.g., 75 mg every 10 days) of deca solely for joint relief. It seems to help.

After primo, I will either go back to mast or perhaps try 400 mg of test for 12 weeks. My aim is to keep the total mg per week at 500 or below (not counting occasional use of orals).

Any sides / hairloss on that Mast dose?

 

[Tony_Parks]

UnclePopHollows" pid='44439' dateline='1552176110:

Tony Parks" pid='44427' dateline='1552164115:

That’s what I do. TRT is 100 mg per week. I recently decided to up the test to 200 mg per week and add another compound. I started with 200 mg of test and 200 mg of mast. I loved it. I felt great, libido was quite healthy, and got surprising strength gains from it. I also got a bit more vascular, and random people at work commented about my appearance and that I must have lost weight.

I did that for about 3 months then switched to 200 mg of test and 200 mg of EQ. That I did not like and stopped it during week 4. I had planned to do it for 16-20 weeks, but my tendons felt like they were on fire (I read anecdotes of people feeling their tendons were more brittle on EQ-first I’d heard of that) and I was irritable all the time. I’ve never had issues with anxiety, so maybe the EQ anxiety some get manifested with me as irritability.

I’m now doing 200 mg of test and 200 mg of primo. I just started this past week so too soon to report anything. About two weeks ago, while on EQ, I added 25 mg per day of anavar also. I’ve never used anavar and wanted to see if I noticed much from 25 mg. I’m planning to do that for 6 weeks.

I’ve also thrown in very small amounts (e.g., 75 mg every 10 days) of deca solely for joint relief. It seems to help.

After primo, I will either go back to mast or perhaps try 400 mg of test for 12 weeks. My aim is to keep the total mg per week at 500 or below (not counting occasional use of orals).

Any sides / hairloss on that Mast dose?

I’ve shaved my head for years so I don’t worry about hair loss. My hematocrit jumped to 52 from a previous average of 46-47. I may have been a little dehydrated the morning of the test. Nonetheless, my doc is having me donate blood monthly to get it down and then every other month after that. I also started having a grapefruit with breakfast and a supplement that is supposed to help lower it. Donating blood will lower it but apart from that, if it leveled off and stayed in the 50-52 range I wouldn’t be concerned. I read that the normal scale includes people with low iron, and that up to 53 is fine for white and Asian men. My doc wants it below 50, however.

 

[UnclePopHollows]

Tony Parks" pid='44446' dateline='1552180638:

UnclePopHollows" pid='44439' dateline='1552176110:

Tony Parks" pid='44427' dateline='1552164115:

That’s what I do. TRT is 100 mg per week. I recently decided to up the test to 200 mg per week and add another compound. I started with 200 mg of test and 200 mg of mast. I loved it. I felt great, libido was quite healthy, and got surprising strength gains from it. I also got a bit more vascular, and random people at work commented about my appearance and that I must have lost weight.

I did that for about 3 months then switched to 200 mg of test and 200 mg of EQ. That I did not like and stopped it during week 4. I had planned to do it for 16-20 weeks, but my tendons felt like they were on fire (I read anecdotes of people feeling their tendons were more brittle on EQ-first I’d heard of that) and I was irritable all the time. I’ve never had issues with anxiety, so maybe the EQ anxiety some get manifested with me as irritability.

I’m now doing 200 mg of test and 200 mg of primo. I just started this past week so too soon to report anything. About two weeks ago, while on EQ, I added 25 mg per day of anavar also. I’ve never used anavar and wanted to see if I noticed much from 25 mg. I’m planning to do that for 6 weeks.

I’ve also thrown in very small amounts (e.g., 75 mg every 10 days) of deca solely for joint relief. It seems to help.

After primo, I will either go back to mast or perhaps try 400 mg of test for 12 weeks. My aim is to keep the total mg per week at 500 or below (not counting occasional use of orals).

Any sides / hairloss on that Mast dose?

I’ve shaved my head for years so I don’t worry about hair loss. My hematocrit jumped to 52 from a previous average of 46-47. I may have been a little dehydrated the morning of the test. Nonetheless, my doc is having me donate blood monthly to get it down and then every other month after that. I also started having a grapefruit with breakfast and a supplement that is supposed to help lower it. Donating blood will lower it but apart from that, if it leveled off and stayed in the 50-52 range I wouldn’t be concerned. I read that the normal scale includes people with low iron, and that up to 53 is fine for white and Asian men. My doc wants it below 50, however.

Probably better to play it safe on the hematocrit, my dude. Plus, you are literally saving lives by donating, and doing it monthly makes you pretty much a superhero. Good shit.

I hear nothing but good stuff about Mast, but the hair thing scares me. Mid 30s and just TRT Test has me thinning a bit. I feel like I’m one of those dudes that would look goofy as fuck with a shaved head, so I should probably get on that Dutasteride.

 

[MiniFridge]

Resurrecting this thread because I couldn’t find another regarding this topic.

Been considering using a blend (100mg Test E / 100mg Primo E / 50mg Mast E) every 5 days for TRT and wanted to get people’s thoughts on if this is sustainable as long as bloods are good. The idea of an “enhanced” TRT is more in line with my use of PEDs, was wondering if anyone else uses more than the standard Test and GH for their HRT.

 

[MikeAlstott]

MiniFridge" pid='65534' dateline='1566252502:

Resurrecting this thread because I couldn’t find another regarding this topic.

Been considering using a blend (100mg Test E / 100mg Primo E / 50mg Mast E) every 5 days for TRT and wanted to get people’s thoughts on if this is sustainable as long as bloods are good. The idea of an “enhanced” TRT is more inline with my use of PEDs, was wondering if anyone else uses more than the standard Test and GH for their HRT.

This is what Greg Doucette does minus the Mast. At least that’s what he said in a recent video.

I wonder if adding in say 2 iu HGH would be good as well.

 

[MiniFridge]

MikeAlstott" pid='65535' dateline='1566253715:

MiniFridge" pid='65534' dateline='1566252502:

Resurrecting this thread because I couldn’t find another regarding this topic.

Been considering using a blend (100mg Test E / 100mg Primo E / 50mg Mast E) every 5 days for TRT and wanted to get people’s thoughts on if this is sustainable as long as bloods are good. The idea of an “enhanced” TRT is more inline with my use of PEDs, was wondering if anyone else uses more than the standard Test and GH for their HRT.

This is what Greg Doucette does minus the Mast. At least that’s what he said in a recent video.

I wonder if adding in say 2 iu HGH would be good as well.

Greg is partly where I got the idea, John Meadows adds in some Mast on his TRT/Cruise doses. I’ve considered low dose Deca or NPP but idk how safe it’d be to run long term.

I don’t know what the opinion of Todd Lee (actual MD?) is around here, but I’ve heard him and a few others make the case that a GHRP + GHRH peptide combo is healthier. Something to do with the “downstream effects of exogenous HGH” but fuck if I really know.

 

[MikeAlstott]

MiniFridge" pid='65542' dateline='1566256105:

MikeAlstott" pid='65535' dateline='1566253715:

MiniFridge" pid='65534' dateline='1566252502:

Resurrecting this thread because I couldn’t find another regarding this topic.

Been considering using a blend (100mg Test E / 100mg Primo E / 50mg Mast E) every 5 days for TRT and wanted to get people’s thoughts on if this is sustainable as long as bloods are good. The idea of an “enhanced” TRT is more inline with my use of PEDs, was wondering if anyone else uses more than the standard Test and GH for their HRT.

This is what Greg Doucette does minus the Mast. At least that’s what he said in a recent video.

I wonder if adding in say 2 iu HGH would be good as well.

Greg is partly where I got the idea, John Meadows adds in some Mast on his TRT/Cruise doses. I’ve considered low dose Deca or NPP but idk how safe it’d be to run long term.

I don’t know what the opinion of Todd Lee (actual MD?) is around here, but I’ve heard him and a few others make the case that a GHRP + GHRH peptide combo is healthier. Something to do with the “downstream effects of exogenous HGH” but fuck if I really know.

I’d be curious to know that as well. I used to pin GHRP 2 + MOD 3x a day, sometimes 4, but it’s honestly a huge chore when you have to wait 30 minutes after to eat. Also carrying an insulin case around if you want to stay on top of it is slightly annoying…

 

[Animutiddies]

If you’re only looking for basically being as fit and strong as an average college guy for your later years, just run 250mg test weekly indefinitely and work the three powerlifting compounds 1-2x a week for low reps, throw in two or three accessory movements in a ‘bodybuilding’ manner (Focus on contraction and pump and stuff), then do some explosive work (Box jumps, sprints, sled drags, heavy medicine ball slams or throws) and finish with a bit of cardio. Easy way to get all the areas of fitness and strength covered plus hit some aesthetics work. Look into Elliott Hulse on Youtube and see how he used to train which is essentially this sort of mixture of different areas of strength and fitness, dude is pretty damn aesthetic and strong while maintaining athleticism as he cruises into his 40s. Ignore his beliefs if they bother you, but his training style coupled with the aforementioned test dose should be everything you need.

 

[PissedPajamas]

250mg Test/mast and 2-3iu GH preWO with IGF-LR3 cycled every 4 weeks is my favorite cruise stack. You look like you’re mid blast on it while letting all your bloods go back to base.

 

[uwotm8]

MikeAlstott" pid='65547' dateline='1566256989:

MiniFridge" pid='65542' dateline='1566256105:

MikeAlstott" pid='65535' dateline='1566253715:

MiniFridge" pid='65534' dateline='1566252502:

Resurrecting this thread because I couldn’t find another regarding this topic.

Been considering using a blend (100mg Test E / 100mg Primo E / 50mg Mast E) every 5 days for TRT and wanted to get people’s thoughts on if this is sustainable as long as bloods are good. The idea of an “enhanced” TRT is more inline with my use of PEDs, was wondering if anyone else uses more than the standard Test and GH for their HRT.

This is what Greg Doucette does minus the Mast. At least that’s what he said in a recent video.

I wonder if adding in say 2 iu HGH would be good as well.

Greg is partly where I got the idea, John Meadows adds in some Mast on his TRT/Cruise doses. I’ve considered low dose Deca or NPP but idk how safe it’d be to run long term.

I don’t know what the opinion of Todd Lee (actual MD?) is around here, but I’ve heard him and a few others make the case that a GHRP + GHRH peptide combo is healthier. Something to do with the “downstream effects of exogenous HGH” but fuck if I really know.

I’d be curious to know that as well. I used to pin GHRP 2 + MOD 3x a day, sometimes 4, but it’s honestly a huge chore when you have to wait 30 minutes after to eat. Also carrying an insulin case around if you want to stay on top of it is slightly annoying…

Greater minds than mine have surmised that 10-15 minutes post pin is plenty of time to wait. Basically, give your body some time to do it’s thing, and once the pulse peaks, eating won’t do a damn thing to stop it. Although, I don’t know if the extra 15 minutes would be significant to you or not.

 

[RaisinBalls]

PissedPajamas" pid='65559' dateline='1566262134:

250mg Test/mast and 2-3iu GH preWO with IGF-LR3 cycled every 4 weeks is my favorite cruise stack. You look like you’re mid blast on it while letting all your bloods go back to base.

You run the mast at 250 also?

 

[PissedPajamas]

RaisinBalls" pid='65570' dateline='1566265827:

PissedPajamas" pid='65559' dateline='1566262134:

250mg Test/mast and 2-3iu GH preWO with IGF-LR3 cycled every 4 weeks is my favorite cruise stack. You look like you’re mid blast on it while letting all your bloods go back to base.

You run the mast at 250 also?

Always. Permanent part of my stack

 

[r_on3]

Animutiddies" pid='65554' dateline='1566259258:

If you’re only looking for basically being as fit and strong as an average college guy for your later years, just run 250mg test weekly indefinitely and work the three powerlifting compounds 1-2x a week for low reps, throw in two or three accessory movements in a ‘bodybuilding’ manner (Focus on contraction and pump and stuff), then do some explosive work (Box jumps, sprints, sled drags, heavy medicine ball slams or throws) and finish with a bit of cardio. Easy way to get all the areas of fitness and strength covered plus hit some aesthetics work. Look into Elliott Hulse on Youtube and see how he used to train which is essentially this sort of mixture of different areas of strength and fitness, dude is pretty damn aesthetic and strong while maintaining athleticism as he cruises into his 40s. Ignore his beliefs if they bother you, but his training style coupled with the aforementioned test dose should be everything you need.

Does Elliot ever mention being on “TRT” in his videos. I used to watch his stuff way back when, it kinda got old for me after a while.

 

[Animutiddies]

r_on3" pid='65610' dateline='1566311760:

Animutiddies" pid='65554' dateline='1566259258:

If you’re only looking for basically being as fit and strong as an average college guy for your later years, just run 250mg test weekly indefinitely and work the three powerlifting compounds 1-2x a week for low reps, throw in two or three accessory movements in a ‘bodybuilding’ manner (Focus on contraction and pump and stuff), then do some explosive work (Box jumps, sprints, sled drags, heavy medicine ball slams or throws) and finish with a bit of cardio. Easy way to get all the areas of fitness and strength covered plus hit some aesthetics work. Look into Elliott Hulse on Youtube and see how he used to train which is essentially this sort of mixture of different areas of strength and fitness, dude is pretty damn aesthetic and strong while maintaining athleticism as he cruises into his 40s. Ignore his beliefs if they bother you, but his training style coupled with the aforementioned test dose should be everything you need.

Does Elliot ever mention being on “TRT” in his videos. I used to watch his stuff way back when, it kinda got old for me after a while.

He doesn’t talk on the topic of Natty vs Enhanced at all anymore. He does admit to being on steroids at the time when he was like 240ish pounds and deadlifted 600-something for reps but he otherwise doesn’t mention gear usage. I think it’s pretty well accepted that he’s either still on gear overall or at least just running Test at this point.

 

[Original_Gainz]

KingTest" pid='44424' dateline='1552161118:

Whats up guys,

SO i have been off gear for a while now. I used to be big on big boy blasts until I realized I was becoming something I didnt really want to be. Full of myself, life revolved around gear, food, and gym, and basically my identity was simply being the big shredded dude…

Anyways I have been off for a while and have made massive life, career, and all other non-gym type of gains.

Lately I have been looking and following more of the longevity, mens health, and funtional-bodybuilding, type of dudes and they all look amazing, they can sprint, jog, run, swim, are aesthetic, be strong ,etc, instead of just being a big ole slow, winded, posing bodybuilder.

This got me thinking, how many of you have gone this route and prioritized overall perfromance and healthVs plain ole looks with big boy blasts, so you went from say 750test/500tren to say TRT test and 200 deca?

Anyone have any experiences only running small anabolics on top of TRT to just stay healthy but with a minor edge?

Ex:
TRT with Ostarine
TRT with 100mg tren
TRT with Anavar
TRT with 200mg Deca
TRT with 200mg Mast
TRT with 300mg EQ

• All of these thoughts came from meeting two 65yr old badasses on TRT that could rep 225 on bench, jog, run, and had a full set of hair. Got me thinking hard as they bashed heavy gear doses and praised their TRT and 150mg Npp cycle haha. Health is truly the only true wealth after all

Thanks!

I cruise with Mast. 125 Test E, 125 Mast E.

I really like this, and love Mast. It had been part of my blast/cruise since I first tried it around 4 years ago.

I’m not prone to hair loss so cant comment on that. Test increases my libido slightly but usually levels off on the low end, while Mast keeps my libido on the higher end.

Overall I feel much better with a mast/ test combo vs just test alone.

 

[thamanz]

Why not 250/125 Test/Tren, sides shouldn’t be crazy… Low dose tren still works and sides should be small if you cycle off the tren when bloods and sides start to look negative.