Ment ace placebo? one week in and I fear im weaker and smaller

[Westosterone Enanthate]

Trestolone acetate placebo?? maybe not as powerful as I thought?

I have a quite a good amount of experience with lifting and gear. 5 years natty, then 5 yrs with hormones.


did a good test blast for 5 months or so and made good size and regular strength gains. i’m 212 lbs 13 percent body fat. I’d be bigger and blast more if I had it my way but Im poor and also don’t want to worry my family honestly, so I keep it modest. no huge stacks or trenbolone, tren made me sad and deeply antisocial the one time I tried it and It was strong but kinda retarded tbh.

I had been blasting test for several months until gains tapered off. Well, I decided to get one vial of trestolone ace, run it at 20mg ED, and drop my test E from 600 per week down to 200 per week. I heard- trestolone was powerful. 2300/650 rating right?

Well I am one week in, and every day I had felt surges of energy, hunger, mood boosts, and feeling like i’m in an anabolic state, until today. I also have been using aromasin for E.

I am now confused. today in the gym, all I can say is that my strength and endurance has noticeable gone down, basically to where I feel unaided by any exogenous hormone. There is nothing wrong with this for me, I’m still strong and wayyy better than how I looked at the beginning of the test blast.

I know it’s a given to feel weaker when going from supralhysiological T to trt level, But I didn’t expect to feel so weak all the sudden, I might as well just stop the ment and cruise. I believe the ment is legit, it is from an outstanding source here.

Any ideas? could overdoing it on aromasin do this? maybe it’s just an off day. I don’t truly suspect it is from lack of calories. I know how to eat, too well. Am I expecting too much from trestolone? I honestly look just a tad bit smaller too, and the scale isn’t going up or down.

one more thing, even picking up 45 lb plates to put onto the barbell is personally more difficult than it has been in 6+months. wow :/

 

[Gullinbursti]

I think it's likely you're overdoing your asin dosing. Low e2 can cause exactly what you're saying. Not to mention you're 1 week in. Give it time. Do what you want but why would you drop something after one bad day? That makes no sense. 20mg per day is a moderately strong dose of trest but nothing crazy. I'd give it time and stop nuking your estrogen if you have been? Speaking of. What's your dosing protocol been on your AI?

 

[Morningcupofjuice]

Trestolone acetate placebo?? maybe not as powerful as I thought?

I have a quite a good amount of experience with lifting and gear. 5 years natty, then 5 yrs with hormones.


did a good test blast for 5 months or so and made good size and regular strength gains. i’m 212 lbs 13 percent body fat. I’d be bigger and blast more if I had it my way but Im poor and also don’t want to worry my family honestly, so I keep it modest. no huge stacks or trenbolone, tren made me sad and deeply antisocial the one time I tried it and It was strong but kinda retarded tbh.

I had been blasting test for several months until gains tapered off. Well, I decided to get one vial of trestolone ace, run it at 20mg ED, and drop my test E from 600 per week down to 200 per week. I heard- trestolone was powerful. 2300/650 rating right?

Well I am one week in, and every day I had felt surges of energy, hunger, mood boosts, and feeling like i’m in an anabolic state, until today. I also have been using aromasin for E.

I am now confused. today in the gym, all I can say is that my strength and endurance has noticeable gone down, basically to where I feel unaided by any exogenous hormone. There is nothing wrong with this for me, I’m still strong and wayyy better than how I looked at the beginning of the test blast.

I know it’s a given to feel weaker when going from supralhysiological T to trt level, But I didn’t expect to feel so weak all the sudden, I might as well just stop the ment and cruise. I believe the ment is legit, it is from an outstanding source here.

Any ideas? could overdoing it on aromasin do this? maybe it’s just an off day. I don’t truly suspect it is from lack of calories. I know how to eat, too well. Am I expecting too much from trestolone? I honestly look just a tad bit smaller too, and the scale isn’t going up or down.

one more thing, even picking up 45 lb plates to put onto the barbell is personally more difficult than it has been in 6+months. wow :/

kind of odd that you aren't feeling the trest after a week in at 2Omg pinned daily? since it's an ace ester it should surely have kicked in by now... curious what source you got this through if you don't mind sharing. Did you notice significant water gain in the first week upon initiating the trest cycle? Test usually holds a lot of water hence why people talk about gaining 25+lb in a month on it.

 

[Gullinbursti]

kind of odd that you aren't feeling the trest after a week in at 2Omg pinned daily? since it's an ace ester it should surely have kicked in by now... curious what source you got this through if you don't mind sharing. Did you notice significant water gain in the first week upon initiating the trest cycle? Test usually holds a lot of water hence why people talk about gaining 25+lb in a month on it.

He said he has been feeling it, up until today. Unless I'm misunderstanding him. I'm running 5mg trest just as an addition to my current cycle. It's a low dose but I think it took me a bit to "feel" it, maybe a couple weeks but idk. Not sure I'm getting anything noticeable from it other than extra fullness, better mood and increased libido which is all I really wanted from it anyway

 

[Gullinbursti]

kind of odd that you aren't feeling the trest after a week in at 2Omg pinned daily? since it's an ace ester it should surely have kicked in by now... curious what source you got this through if you don't mind sharing. Did you notice significant water gain in the first week upon initiating the trest cycle? Test usually holds a lot of water hence why people talk about gaining 25+lb in a month on it.

What I'm really curious about is his "I've been using asin for e" comment. It leads me to believe he's dosed it both preemptively and more than once in that time frame. I think they'd the source of his "off day". Why that'd make him scrap the entire compound idk.

 

[Morningcupofjuice]

He said he has been feeling it, up until today. Unless I'm misunderstanding him. I'm running 5mg trest just as an addition to my current cycle. It's a low dose but I think it took me a bit to "feel" it, maybe a couple weeks but idk. Not sure I'm getting anything noticeable from it other than extra fullness, better mood and increased libido which is all I really wanted from it anyway

What I'm really curious about is his "I've been using asin for e" comment. It leads me to believe he's dosed it both preemptively and more than once in that time frame. I think they'd the source of his "off day". Why that'd make him scrap the entire compound idk.

Yes your correct I had to reread his post, he is feeling the effects and the way he wrote out this post leads me to think he jumped the gun on upping the AI before there was a chance for any significant aromatization. West I think you would probably benefit from lowering your aromisin dose until you see some signs of possible high E sides and gauge from there. I feel like absolute crap when my E is too low, might be an easy fix here. I wouldn't discontinue the compound because of just one off day.. maybe an off few days or week. Off days happen with any compound what matters is that you react and adjust ancillaries etc. accordingly.

 

[Westosterone Enanthate]

I think it's likely you're overdoing your asin dosing. Low e2 can cause exactly what you're saying. Not to mention you're 1 week in. Give it time. Do what you want but why would you drop something after one bad day? That makes no sense. 20mg per day is a moderately strong dose of trest but nothing crazy. I'd give it time and stop nuking your estrogen if you have been? Speaking of. What's your dosing protocol been on your AI?

Thanks for response, I think you may be correct. Being a semi heavy aromatiser, I wanted to be more prepared for estro than not and that’s what I did. I switched to pharma grade exemestane and was on 12.5mg per day the last several days out of fear of the rumored estrogen horrors of ment. However, my mood had been decent and not indicating low e, but now I think I have other low e symptoms as well. today I’ve noticed more things, how dumb of me. I will stop aromasin and keep updating.

 

[Gullinbursti]

Thanks for response, I think you may be correct. Being a semi heavy aromatiser, I wanted to be more prepared for estro than not and that’s what I did. I switched to pharma grade exemestane and was on 12.5mg per day the last several days out of fear of the rumored estrogen horrors of ment. However, my mood had been decent and not indicating low e, but now I think I have other low e symptoms as well. today I’ve noticed more things, how dumb of me. I will stop aromasin and keep updating.

That is literally an insane amount of aromasin. Seriously man, that's not good for you. No wonder you feel so bad. Don't use until it's needed. You may need half of that which is still a lot but go by feel not just bomb it all. Don't take any ai for at least three days. It's an ace Ester so you should start feeling better quickly as it aromatizes. I'd personally wait until high e2 sides and then go with 6.25 every three days and adjust according to feeling afterwards

 

[Westosterone Enanthate]

I won’t get rid of the ment lol, it’s from Syn. I was still so irritated when I wrote the post because It just happened lol. Guess i’m in a bad mood too. Yup too much aromasin. Apart from now, even since day 2 on ment I couldn’t do enough, I had so much energy and it was so hard leaving the gym, pumps were solid and painfully good in the quads one time in particular. Mood wise I did feel almost too good at times, was afraid I wouldn’t be able to unwind before bed.

 

[Westosterone Enanthate]

That is literally an insane amount of aromasin. Seriously man, that's not good for you. No wonder you feel so bad. Don't use until it's needed. You may need half of that which is still a lot but go by feel not just bomb it all. Don't take any ai for at least three days. It's an ace Ester so you should start feeling better quickly as it aromatizes. I'd personally wait until high e2 sides and then go with 6.25 every three days and adjust according to feeling afterwards

will do, thankyou

 

[Westosterone Enanthate]

update: feeling better, pinned again of course, and about to go lift. No aromasin today. I will warm up slowly, not sure what lifting to do since I may go to the gym twice today.

 

[Westosterone Enanthate]

my pump is feeling very good lol, do you guys think I should up the trest dose a bit since I don’t need to worry about e2 as much as I thought ?

 

[Gullinbursti]

my pump is feeling very good lol, do you guys think I should up the trest dose a bit since I don’t need to worry about e2 as much as I thought ?

No, I'd stick with the same dose for now. Give it a while and really get a good idea of where you're at over the course of a week. One day isn't enough to base a decision on typically

 

[Westosterone Enanthate]

update: still have not taken any ai. but I think i am up just one lb. not necessary feeling stronger, but have increased hunger and energy. Usually I need at least 7 hours of sleep to feel decent, but after 6 hours of sleep on ment I wake up, forget my coffee and get on with my day and being very productive. sometimes outside of the gym I have a sensation that i’m getting fuller and stronger, but the gym I don’t feel it as much., or I question it. I even feel like im slightly bloated in the stomach area+less muscular. I had an idea in my head that I’d experience some thing fast and similar to sdrol with strength and fullness, but there seems so far to be a slight lack of that. Libido is down but better than during the ai mishap.

just gonna continue doing what i’m doing and trying to realize that it’s too early probably still. my e probably isn’t optimal and I hope it’s responsible for the lack of fullness I think I feel. Maybe someone can comment? I believe this is day 9, and in hindsight I recall pinning like 15 mg of ment the first few days and I’ve since then increased as I noted already.

 

[Westosterone Enanthate]

i’m almost nearly certain my ment is complete bunk.

 

[Blastoiselabs]

You

i’m almost nearly certain my ment is complete bunk.

crashed your estrogen. Let it recover. Syn ment is good