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Anyone here used low dose Ment (Trest A) in lieu of testosterone for TRT? Maybe like 5-10mg ED or EOD?

Cant remember where I was reading about it but I saw a couple guys that were reporting great results with that. I’m considering something like that with maybe 250-300mg of Mast or Primo alongside for some E2 control. I don’t like AIs and will avoid them if at all possible. I know Ment aromatizes heavily but not sure how 5-10mg/day would aromatize if at all.
 

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Trestolone is the only steroid in production today that is capable of sustaining normal male physiology in the complete absence of testosterone, including sexual functioning. In many users, the compound conveys positive psychological effects including a sense of confidence, euthymia and well-being—effects to some degree shared by DHT-related compounds Testosterone, Dianabol, Proviron and Masteron. However, MENT is not subject to metabolism by the 5α-reductase enzyme, so the compound's psychological benefits are unrelated to the those conveyed by DHT. Unlike sister compound Dimethandrolone (DMAU), MENT undergoes aromatization, so all the benefits of estrogen will still be conveyed on cycle: extra strength, better glycogen use, androgen receptor upregulation, increased GH output, and boosted IGF-1.

c. TRT Dosage​

In a 1992 study in rats investigating the pharmacology of MENT, researchers found the anabolic potency of MENT to be 10× greater than Testosterone, while also being 12× more suppressive to the HTPA. The average male produces 4-7mg of testosterone daily to keep muscle mass and sexual function, so 400-700mcg of MENT daily (10× less) is sufficient to produce the same results. A clinical contraceptive study employed doses of one, two and four patches that released 400mcg per day each, for an effective daily dose of 400mcg, 800mcg, and 1600mcg (1.6mg). Clinical studies ranging from 400-700mcg on up to 1-2mg found a close approximation to TRT dose. Given the lack of side effects or negative impact on bloodwork, many bodybuilders have opted to follow an “enhanced” cruise protocol of 5-10mg/day—technically a blast and not a true cruise at all, yet yielding enhanced strength and recovery with minimal impact on measurable markers.
 

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Anyone here used low dose Ment (Trest A) in lieu of testosterone for TRT? Maybe like 5-10mg ED or EOD?

Cant remember where I was reading about it but I saw a couple guys that were reporting great results with that. I’m considering something like that with maybe 250-300mg of Mast or Primo alongside for some E2 control. I don’t like AIs and will avoid them if at all possible. I know Ment aromatizes heavily but not sure how 5-10mg/day would aromatize if at all.
5-10 mg of ment per day is a solid blast not trt. 400-700mcg is what was considered trt as far as ment goes, 1mg tops. But yeah people do it, they usually seem to end up dropping it for various reasons though. I might give it a shot at some point myself
 

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Also important to note that while it is far more suppressive, your natural production returns much quicker than if you were using test
Trestolone is the only steroid in production today that is capable of sustaining normal male physiology in the complete absence of testosterone, including sexual functioning. In many users, the compound conveys positive psychological effects including a sense of confidence, euthymia and well-being—effects to some degree shared by DHT-related compounds Testosterone, Dianabol, Proviron and Masteron. However, MENT is not subject to metabolism by the 5α-reductase enzyme, so the compound's psychological benefits are unrelated to the those conveyed by DHT. Unlike sister compound Dimethandrolone (DMAU), MENT undergoes aromatization, so all the benefits of estrogen will still be conveyed on cycle: extra strength, better glycogen use, androgen receptor upregulation, increased GH output, and boosted IGF-1.

c. TRT Dosage​

In a 1992 study in rats investigating the pharmacology of MENT, researchers found the anabolic potency of MENT to be 10× greater than Testosterone, while also being 12× more suppressive to the HTPA. The average male produces 4-7mg of testosterone daily to keep muscle mass and sexual function, so 400-700mcg of MENT daily (10× less) is sufficient to produce the same results. A clinical contraceptive study employed doses of one, two and four patches that released 400mcg per day each, for an effective daily dose of 400mcg, 800mcg, and 1600mcg (1.6mg). Clinical studies ranging from 400-700mcg on up to 1-2mg found a close approximation to TRT dose. Given the lack of side effects or negative impact on bloodwork, many bodybuilders have opted to follow an “enhanced” cruise protocol of 5-10mg/day—technically a blast and not a true cruise at all, yet yielding enhanced strength and recovery with minimal impact on measurable markers.
 

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Also important to note that while it is far more suppressive, your natural production returns much quicker than if you were using test
Ah, very interesting and the one aspect of Ment I was concerned about the most. Last year or so I have been dabbling with daily micro doses of test cyp plus HCG and occasionally some Enclomiphene. The reason is that I discovered my natural testosterone coming back with the low dose testosterone protocol. So I wanted to see how far I could ramp up natural levels while still enjoying the crutch of exogenous testosterone.

So although so much of Ment looks like a good fit for me I was concerned about potential issues getting my natural levels to even register again if I did go with Ment for a while and decided to come off for whatever reason. So that’s good to know about what you shared. I’m early 40s btw so I have to think about these things lol
 

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Ah, very interesting and the one aspect of Ment I was concerned about the most. Last year or so I have been dabbling with daily micro doses of test cyp plus HCG and occasionally some Enclomiphene. The reason is that I discovered my natural testosterone coming back with the low dose testosterone protocol. So I wanted to see how far I could ramp up natural levels while still enjoying the crutch of exogenous testosterone.

So although so much of Ment looks like a good fit for me I was concerned about potential issues getting my natural levels to even register again if I did go with Ment for a while and decided to come off for whatever reason. So that’s good to know about what you shared. I’m early 40s btw so I have to think about these things lol
That's interesting. How are you sure that your natural levels are returning rather than being enhanced by what you're taking? Just asking out of curiosity. Yeah ment was developed as a male birth control and it's extremely suppressive but designed to allow normal functions to return much faster than any other anabolic, interesting properties for sure
 

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I'll keep you posted; I'm waiting for bloodwork results before I plan my 200mg MENT/200mg Stenbolone blast weekly. No orals, no TRT dose (I'm on prescription test cyp), only insulin and HGH with it. :sneaky:
 

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I'll keep you posted; I'm waiting for bloodwork results before I plan my 200mg MENT/200mg Stenbolone blast weekly. No orals, no TRT dose (I'm on prescription test cyp), only insulin and HGH with it. :sneaky:
That sounds beastly. Never used Sten but it looks fun.
 

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That's interesting. How are you sure that your natural levels are returning rather than being enhanced by what you're taking? Just asking out of curiosity. Yeah ment was developed as a male birth control and it's extremely suppressive but designed to allow normal functions to return much faster than any other anabolic, interesting properties for sure
I noticed in my brain and libido first but just wrote it off to some supplement or something I probably added. I had always thought it was impossible for natural testosterone to come back while on exogenous test because that was what was preached as truth when I first started down this path 13-14 years ago. So I was not expecting any of the natural stuff coming back when I decided to go blast n cruise.

But anyways the brain and libido first. And then my nuts started getting fuller. So then I really started researching deeper and found it’s actually pretty common.

Theres like a 100 page thread on promuscle called 10mg/day by a man named Emeric. He pretty much lays it all out. I had even commented in the thread but never really understood it fully but I started experimenting with low daily doses of test cyp. It was years later and after several more blasts that I settled in longer on doses in the 10-15mg range for my cruise which turned into a full blown TRT (no more real blasts). And that is when the symptoms of my natural levels coming back slowly over time.
 

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Ment and primo would be the champagne stack. Being primo the e2 control and filling the DHT convertion department that ment lacks. It's about finding the right dosage by feel, since ment form of estradiol doesn't show up in regular analysis.
 

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Ment and primo would be the champagne stack. Being primo the e2 control and filling the DHT convertion department that ment lacks. It's about finding the right dosage by feel, since ment form of estradiol doesn't show up in regular analysis.
Yeah that would be a great stack. I was also thinking about trying ment and eq got the same reason but like you said the dht would probably be better. I'd probably go with ment, eq and mast if I tried it out for that reason
 

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Yeah that would be a great stack. I was also thinking about trying ment and eq got the same reason but like you said the dht would probably be better. I'd probably go with ment, eq and mast if I tried it out for that reason
Unless you find some quality ment enanthate I see no reason why not to use regular test as trt. Now if you're going to blast that's a different story.. ment, primo, anavar and some gh if you can and you have the god tier cycle. The thing with masteron is that it doesn't compite for aromatase like primo does, instead it masks the symptoms of e2. EQ on the other hand does inhibit e2 but if I were you I'll spend that money on primo instead of mast and eq
 

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Unless you find some quality ment enanthate I see no reason why not to use regular test as trt. Now if you're going to blast that's a different story.. ment, primo, anavar and some gh if you can and you have the god tier cycle. The thing with masteron is that it doesn't compite for aromatase like primo does, instead it masks the symptoms of e2. EQ on the other hand does inhibit e2 but if I were you I'll spend that money on primo instead of mast and eq
I wasn't talking about for trt. I'm talking about ment in general and yeah for a blast
 

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Unless you find some quality ment enanthate I see no reason why not to use regular test as trt. Now if you're going to blast that's a different story.. ment, primo, anavar and some gh if you can and you have the god tier cycle. The thing with masteron is that it doesn't compite for aromatase like primo does, instead it masks the symptoms of e2. EQ on the other hand does inhibit e2 but if I were you I'll spend that money on primo instead of mast and eq
Also I wasn't talking about mast for e2 control but for the dht properties lacking in ment. Eq is also far cheaper than primo. But either way, yeah ment and primo would be great for a blast
 
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