microdosing psilo or lsd

[hougie]

Hello. This has become a real topic lately and has shown to be very helpful for those with depression, anxiety and other brain issues.

Currently lsd is not obtainable in US but is in Canada.
Psilocybin is depending on which state you live in. I have found a couple of interesting websites.

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Anyway Im reading countless positive reviews on both of these from people who have improved significantly from just one small trial dose even.
Especially the lsd trial. Unfortunately in the US its much more difficult to find.
If anyone has any info or wants to point out anything please either reply here or send me a dm. Much appreciate.

Thanks

 

[EnhancedGrappler]

Discussion of microdosing LSD/Psilocybin is fine but no discussion of sources.

 

[Aoi_611]

Psilocybin is amazing. It’s like the one drug that I’ve felt completely content on and absolutely needed nothing. Super super enjoyable and could totally see it remedying a lot of ailments. Much more than mdma or ketamine while being completely natural.

Great stuff. That is all.

 

[T&H]

Psilocybin is amazing. It’s like the one drug that I’ve felt completely content on and absolutely needed nothing. Super super enjoyable and could totally see it remedying a lot of ailments. Much more than mdma or ketamine while being completely natural.

Great stuff. That is all.

Natural or not, anyone with an addiction to the same type of high would be a fool to use something like it. Same as kratom, stuff is garbage and touted as Natural.

Personally hate seeing discussion of recreational drugs on AAS sites. But mods allow so carry on I guess.

 

[hougie]

Natural or not, anyone with an addiction to the same type of high would be a fool to use something like it. Same as kratom, stuff is garbage and touted as Natural.

Personally hate seeing discussion of recreational drugs on AAS sites. But mods allow so carry on I guess.

You don’t get high from a micro dose so it’s not addicting also if you don’t think using aas or high doses of test can cause similar neurological transmitter issues you would be wrong

 

[Aoi_611]

Natural or not, anyone with an addiction to the same type of high would be a fool to use something like it. Same as kratom, stuff is garbage and touted as Natural.

Personally hate seeing discussion of recreational drugs on AAS sites. But mods allow so carry on I guess.

Pretty ignorant statement - actually just flat out stupid, really.

How about growing the fuck up and not having an aversed knee jerk reaction to something you read on the internet? Fucking grow a set.

Do you even understand what we’re talking about? You think people develop addictions to psychedelics lol?

 

[T&H]

Pretty ignorant statement - actually just flat out stupid, really.

How about growing the fuck up and not having an aversed knee jerk reaction to something you read on the internet? Fucking grow a set.

Do you even understand what we’re talking about? You think people develop addictions to psychedelics lol?

I grow up, knee jerk action? Did you even read your response. You're the one needing a drug to feel completely content. Pathetic.

 

[Aoi_611]

I grow up, knee jerk action? Did you even read your response. You're the one needing a drug to feel completely content. Pathetic.

English your 2nd language dog? What are you trying to say bro?

You can’t form sentences bro?

 

[Deucalion]

Pretty ignorant statement - actually just flat out stupid, really.

How about growing the fuck up and not having an aversed knee jerk reaction to something you read on the internet? Fucking grow a set.

Do you even understand what we’re talking about? You think people develop addictions to psychedelics lol?

I don't see what is wrong with him giving his opinion. I think he made a valid point about "natural". He didn't specifically say it was addictive in and of itself but that the high it gives can be. All you did was insult him after that too, makes me think you don't even know what you're talking about...

 

[Aoi_611]

I don't see what is wrong with him giving his opinion. I think he made a valid point about "natural". He didn't specifically say it was addictive in and of itself but that the high it gives can be. All you did was insult him after that too, makes me think you don't even know what you're talking about...

What we were talking about is pretty natural. Psilocybin isn’t a man made chemical, and there was literally no talk of anything addiction related. The discussion was about micro dosing psychedelics to improve people’s conditions.

Nothing to do with

“anyone with an addiction to the same type of high would be a fool to use something like it. Same as kratom, stuff is garbage and touted as Natural.

Personally hate seeing discussion of recreational drugs on AAS sites. But mods allow so carry on I guess.”

What does the above statement that I called out have anything productive to do with the conversation? What value does it add? What value does your comment about me knowing nothing add?

The original conversation was nothing more than how microdosing psychedelics can help people with certain conditions. The conversation was about trying to help people - injecting your own personal opinions about the subject doesn’t help anyone. It’s not constructive. We all have opinions,but if they aren’t constructive and add value than they’re not worth adding to the conversation. They’re just merely opinions.

I see shit all the time on the internet that I may disagree with. Everyone does and that’s fine, but if you have no real constructive response to add to the conversation, and only your opinion, it’s best to leave it be. Understand it takes a bigger man to do this.

 

[Deucalion]

What we were talking about is pretty natural. Psilocybin isn’t a man made chemical, and there was literally no talk of anything addiction related. The discussion was about micro dosing psychedelics to improve people’s conditions.

Nothing to do with

“anyone with an addiction to the same type of high would be a fool to use something like it. Same as kratom, stuff is garbage and touted as Natural.

Personally hate seeing discussion of recreational drugs on AAS sites. But mods allow so carry on I guess.”

What does the above statement that I called out have anything productive to do with the conversation? What value does it add? What value does your comment about me knowing nothing add?

The original conversation was nothing more than how microdosing psychedelics can help people with certain conditions. The conversation was about trying to help people - injecting your own personal opinions about the subject doesn’t help anyone. It’s not constructive. We all have opinions,but if they aren’t constructive and add value than they’re not worth adding to the conversation. They’re just merely opinions.

I see shit all the time on the internet that I may disagree with. Everyone does and that’s fine, but if you have no real constructive response to add to the conversation, and only your opinion, it’s best to leave it be. Understand it takes a bigger man to do this.

Your whole first comment was subjective and purely opinion. Some people may not hold your same belief, but hearing differing points of view on micro-dosing LSD and mushrooms IS constructive to this post. Instead of taking the chance to hear his point of view out, or even strengthening your stance to have a CONSTRUCTIVE conversation, you just insult the fuck out of him personally. What is constructive about that?

I think it was nice to read you had a good experience with your use of the aforementioned. I also think him alluding to the fact that natural or not, that doesn't add validity to its benefits? A lot of things are natural and are not good for you, he brought up kratom, which is a perfect example. People get addicted to the feeling of being on kratom, it has many side effects, just like micro-dosing mushrooms or LSD have.

 

[Aoi_611]

Your whole first comment was subjective and purely opinion. Some people may not hold your same belief, but hearing differing points of view on micro-dosing LSD and mushrooms IS constructive to this post. Instead of taking the chance to hear his point of view out, or even strengthening your stance to have a CONSTRUCTIVE conversation, you just insult the fuck out of him personally. What is constructive about that?

I think it was nice to read you had a good experience with your use of the aforementioned. I also think him alluding to the fact that natural or not, that doesn't add validity to its benefits? A lot of things are natural and are not good for you, he brought up kratom, which is a perfect example. People get addicted to the feeling of being on kratom, it has many side effects, just like micro-dosing mushrooms or LSD have.

Do you have any experience with psychedelics?
What is subjective about what I am saying?

I heard his point of view and it wasn’t relevant or constructive to what we were talking about. It was framed as a hard drug, something people rob their grandmas for, when in reality the stuff grows for free in a cow field. It’s not a destructive compound and I have experience to back it up. I’m not just saying this, but no one robs and steals and breaks up families for psychedelics lol. I’m speaking from a place that truly understands it. I’m not giving a blanket statement just because.

You can take one side or the other. That’s all you.

Now that thc is pretty mainstream, would you guys poopoo on the same benefits that offers?
The conversation is no different. It’s been proven that cbd and thc improve the quality of peoples lives - is that also a hard drug and should that also be looked at the same way?

And I’ll be honest - I absolutely did insult the fuck out of him to drive home the understanding that a knee jerk reaction to the discussion of something perfectly logical that he can’t wrap his head around is open for discussion.

I encourage everyone to approach everything with an open mind before responding with a knee jerk response. Realizing that you consider perspective and keep it constructive - think about the people this stuff benefits. You may have your opinion and that’s perfectly fine, just consider what good certain things do for people.

 

[Deucalion]

Do you have any experience with psychedelics?
What is subjective about what I am saying?

I heard his point of view and it wasn’t relevant or constructive to what we were talking about. It was framed as a hard drug, something people rob their grandmas for, when in reality the stuff grows for free in a cow field. It’s not a destructive compound and I have experience to back it up. I’m not just saying this, but no one robs and steals and breaks up families for psychedelics lol. I’m speaking from a place that truly understands it. I’m not giving a blanket statement just because.

You can take one side or the other. That’s all you.

Now that thc is pretty mainstream, would you guys poopoo on the same benefits that offers?
The conversation is no different. It’s been proven that cbd and thc improve the quality of peoples lives - is that also a hard drug and should that also be looked at the same way?

And I’ll be honest - I absolutely did insult the fuck out of him to drive home the understanding that a knee jerk reaction to the discussion of something perfectly logical that he can’t wrap his head around is open for discussion.

I encourage everyone to approach everything with an open mind before responding with a knee jerk response. Realizing that you consider perspective and keep it constructive - think about the people this stuff benefits. You may have your opinion and that’s perfectly fine, just consider what good certain things do for people.

I came to this discussion to see different people's points of view, I think you are wrong to shut down communication with personal insults, again it just makes you lose credibility as far as your opinions. Everything in your post is subjective, it is not measurable, you saying it is amazing is a subjective opinion.

I am interested personally in the possible applications of both weed and mushrooms, but not so much LSD. However, there are high risks with these substances, HPPD for instance, even in micro-doses. Well, thank you for deeming his post not relevant. I think it was a very fair point to compare it to kratom, for multiple reasons. Not well regulated, no real "standard" dose, etc.

I personally do believe weed should be looked at in a harsher light. It should be up to the individual to make the decision to indulge in that knowing the risks and benefits though, is my take on it. Weed is harsh on the lungs, not well regulated if obtained illegally, and some of its medical benefits that are not substantive enough for FDA clearance are no more beneficial than other drugs on the market which have less side effects. Addiction potential is there as well. Look around reddit if you'd prefer peoples subjective opinions on it, they get so addicted all they do is sit home and smoke, living no meaningful life. This is not everyone's experience with it though, but it's nice to see how some people can use low doses to function and others ruin their lives with it.

Everything comes with risks, I'd rather be well-informed and see a conversation portraying both sides. It may benefit some people, and others may suffer from its use, look at the insane things people do to themselves and people around them while on a bad trip. Microdosing or not, these things can occur.

 

[Aoi_611]

I came to this discussion to see different people's points of view, I think you are wrong to shut down communication with personal insults, again it just makes you lose credibility as far as your opinions. Everything in your post is subjective, it is not measurable, you saying it is amazing is a subjective opinion.

I am interested personally in the possible applications of both weed and mushrooms, but not so much LSD. However, there are high risks with these substances, HPPD for instance, even in micro-doses. Well, thank you for deeming his post not relevant. I think it was a very fair point to compare it to kratom, for multiple reasons. Not well regulated, no real "standard" dose, etc.

I personally do believe weed should be looked at in a harsher light. It should be up to the individual to make the decision to indulge in that knowing the risks and benefits though, is my take on it. Weed is harsh on the lungs, not well regulated if obtained illegally, and some of its medical benefits that are not substantive enough for FDA clearance are no more beneficial than other drugs on the market which have less side effects. Addiction potential is there as well. Look around reddit if you'd prefer peoples subjective opinions on it, they get so addicted all they do is sit home and smoke, living no meaningful life. This is not everyone's experience with it though, but it's nice to see how some people can use low doses to function and others ruin their lives with it.

Everything comes with risks, I'd rather be well-informed and see a conversation portraying both sides. It may benefit some people, and others may suffer from its use, look at the insane things people do to themselves and people around them while on a bad trip. Microdosing or not, these things can occur.

Well, great job of making whatever the fuck that response is to my argument. I’m going to leave you without giving two shits to your argument. That’s the internet. Thanks for playing.

 

[Qwerty7373]

Hello. This has become a real topic lately and has shown to be very helpful for those with depression, anxiety and other brain issues.

Currently lsd is not obtainable in US but is in Canada.
Psilocybin is depending on which state you live in. I have found a couple of interesting websites.

- Links Redacted by Moderators -

Anyway Im reading countless positive reviews on both of these from people who have improved significantly from just one small trial dose even.
Especially the lsd trial. Unfortunately in the US its much more difficult to find.
If anyone has any info or wants to point out anything please either reply here or send me a dm. Much appreciate.

Thanks

LSD for sure. Longer lasting ,cleaner more focus etc

LSD

 

[Deucalion]

Well, great job of making whatever the fuck that response is to my argument. I’m going to leave you without giving two shits to your argument. That’s the internet. Thanks for playing.

The point I was making is that you are a childish hypocrite who doesn't know what subjective means. You seem to be plagued by confirmation bias and just want people to half-wittedly agree with your opinion and not oppose or contrast it. His comment was relevant and constructive, just because it doesn't align with your views you insult. I am pretty neutral and want to see both sides, like a reasonable person would.

If this is how you act, and defend arguments, I am not sure if the mushrooms are to blame or if you should start taking them more often to level yourself out.

 

[T&H]

Didn't intend to cause all this back and forth. As a prior user of LSD and shrooms years ago for recreation, I know the effects and how enjoyable they can be. Simply wanted others reading to think about the other side, if they assumed it was completely safe to try based on what was posted in support of it.

Even if someone can use either for true help with depression, anxiety, etc, I still think one should use caution. It might be ok for some Temporary relief but definitely not the long term answer.

 

[psauce]

Aside from the (true) TRT-only guys here, we're all recreational drug users, so none of this is to rain on anyone's parade. The use of psychedelic's to treat things like trauma, depression, addiction, and so forth... those are coming in so fast that it's impartible to keep up, and a great deal is encouraging.

However, microdosing is somewhat different. The gold standard for pharma research is placebo controlled, double blind structure. There was a very good and cleverly named study, Microdosing with psilocybin mushrooms: a double-blind placebo-controlled study, looking at the effect of psilocybin micodosing. [That link should take you to a free copy.] Interestingly, most science papers have their own TLDR, and here is what this one had to say about itself:

>In conclusion, we conducted a controlled study of microdosing in individuals who were already planning to start their own microdosing protocol. While small amounts of dried Psilocybe cubensis mushrooms reliably induced significant subjective effects, their impact in other domains was negligible or even indicative of impaired performance. Clearly, more research is needed to decide whether microdosing with psychedelics can deliver at least some of its promised positive effects.

This one (A systematic study of microdosing psychedelics) is essentially a collection of the TLDRs of other papers.

In short, there my be some promise to microdosing, but so far evidence for it is limited and proof of detriment is real even if small.

 

[Bando]

LSD for sure. Longer lasting ,cleaner more focus etc

LSD

How much and how often?