Pip longer than normal

[mastermas619]

so this will be my 5th cycle. This time i went with test prop 200mg/ml.

Doing 100mg eod. Injected my right quad on thursday. and the pip is way more than normal.
Any suggestions on bringing down the swelling?

5,7"/189lbs/%12 Bf(dexa scan)

 

[MattMatt93]

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so this will be my 5th cycle. This time i went with test prop 200mg/ml.

Doing 100mg eod. Injected my right quad on thursday. and the pip is way more than normal.
Any suggestions on bringing down the swelling?

5,7"/189lbs/%12 Bf(dexa scan)

Massaging and applying heat to the area usually aids in PIP. Test prop at 200mg/ml is also higher in concentration than normal (100mg/ml) so you should expect more PIP regardless. It will subside eventually.

 

[Mirahane]

I am starting to think the short esters are not worth it for guys with sensitivity to PIP. I am in this boat and have never been able to tolerate gear that causes PIP. Long time gear user as well, circa 1997.

 

[mdwilson2011]

What are you other injection sites in your rotation? Does this happen in other sites?

 

[mastermas619]

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What are you other injection sites in your rotation? Does this happen in other sites?

Thank you all for your input.

I rotate between GLutes, ventri Glutes, delts en quads. Never tried chest. And it does happen to other sites. i know i’m not alergic to the carrier oil used, so it must me the high concentration.

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mastermas619" pid='56651' dateline='1560255746:

so this will be my 5th cycle. This time i went with test prop 200mg/ml.

Doing 100mg eod. Injected my right quad on thursday. and the pip is way more than normal.
Any suggestions on bringing down the swelling?

5,7"/189lbs/%12 Bf(dexa scan)

Massaging and applying heat to the area usually aids in PIP. Test prop at 200mg/ml is also higher in concentration than normal (100mg/ml) so you should expect more PIP regardless. It will subside eventually.

Thanks Matt, massaging it is not an option as it hurts. hahah.
i have tried cold compression. I’ll try applying heat.

 

[mdwilson2011]

@“mastermas619” if your carrier oil is mig840, it can help to inject at a snail pace. So if you’re doing 100mg, or.5cc, I’d aim for a 60 second injection time. The oil is so thin that many theorize it is prone to leak subq and cause irritation if injected too fast.

You could also try pinning ED and add in pecs to your rotation. By doing this you can reduce the volume injected and increase the number of sites. Wouldn’t hurt to add in 1/4cc of sterile GSO either.

 

[mastermas619]

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@“mastermas619” if your carrier oil is mig840, it can help to inject at a snail pace. So if you’re doing 100mg, or.5cc, I’d aim for a 60 second injection time. The oil is so thin that many theorize it is prone to leak subq and cause irritation if injected too fast.

You could also try pinning ED and add in pecs to your rotation. By doing this you can reduce the volume injected and increase the number of sites. Wouldn’t hurt to add in 1/4cc of sterile GSO either.

You or spot on with the carrier oil. I will try your advise and let you know.

Thanks again.

 

[alphaproject]

I know it defeats the purpose of high concentration GEAR but you can mix Mig into GSO and it “should” help as it did me. If the site gets water retention and bloats up you are just screwed, nothing to do but apply heat and wait. I’ve been there MANY times. Also, fast easter/high test will do that to some people and that’s that.

One of the longest swelling issues I had was trying my triceps as I’ve seen plenty of guys say they hit chest and triceps. For me that was a huge mistake and I didn’t do much and the gear was only test 250.

QAlso… I don’t consider it PIP if it swells up and hurts like a mofo and would cause you to not train or walk. To me that’s left over crystals grinding in the muscle and/or it’s trying to reject it as it thinks it’s a foreign substance. I have a tad bit of pain now but unless it gets swollen, I’m not worried about it.

 

[Ishitrainbows]

Prop 200 in MIG is just a total bastard. I ran it for 8 weeks recently and in the thighs it could be unbearable. Because I’m obviously a masochist I pushed on with it and did discover that it was only the thigh shots that messed me up. Delta, glutes and ventro were fine and in the end also my right thigh. For some reason my left thigh just went like yours every pin.

Now running prop 100, almost calm and peaceful by comparison. That being the case if I were you I would try thinning it down with gso. Heating the oil or injecting slowly never seemed to help.

 

[mastermas619]

OK,

Update,

today marks a week, and it’s still a bit swollen. the pain is manageable to train legs today.
the swelling is less after applying heat every night.

i pin 0.5ml equals 100mg in my delts, no problem. in my glutes, no problem.
it’s my left thigh thats given me the problem.

anyway, thank you all for your input. i appreciate it.

 

[alphaproject]

Good lord don’t let Jacked find you guys… he doesn’t believe crippling pip exists. He’s a great thread stalker though… masterful.

Funny thing is, I noticed only a tiny bit of pain in my hip, I stuck something in an area lower than normal and then probably 3 days later I looked at my hamstring and it was full of water. The pain wasn’t that harsh, which goes against everything in the past, but when something swells I start to get cramps. First time in a long time since I’ve had any mess ups and I forget wtf I even put in there but I’m guessing it might have been NPP and Prop or 200mg Test E with Masteron. The first time in weeks I didn’t write down “exactly” what I shot into where.

 

[mdwilson2011]

@“alphaproject” we all know bad pip exists, and we have all experienced it. We all pinned our quads at some point because it seems so darn easy and convenient, then wind up with pip so bad that your coworkers won’t stop asking what’s wrong.

The difference is the rest of us don’t talk about it 24/7.

 

[alphaproject]

@“alphaproject” we all know bad pip exists, and we have all experienced it. We all pinned our quads at some point because it seems so darn easy and convenient, then wind up with pip so bad that your coworkers won’t stop asking what’s wrong.

The difference is the rest of us don’t talk about it 24/7.

I talked about it while it was happening, when have I created a topic since… that’s right, certainly not 24/7. At least be accurate if you are going to insult me.