Prolactin gyno

[Unger44]

Is prolactin gyno permanent? If you were to stop the use of a 19nor before it gets bad will it subside?

 

[system]

The puffiness, milk production will go away once you stop using a 19nor and your prolactin eventually lowers naturally but the high prolactin gyno is permanent yes.

 

[Gbunk]

Use some ancillaries and it should go away.

 

[system]

@Gbunk neither tamoxifen or aromatase inhibitors lower prolactin or will stop/reverse prolactin related gyno. There’s a lot of evidence tamoxifen will only further aggravate high prolactin symptoms. He should have had his prolactin checked from the start and taken caber.

 

[system]

@99powerstroke so what could he take to get it to go away, if prolactin caused it? If E2 caused it, does nolvadex work in this case?

 

[system]

@nswole1 he can take his phone and call his doctor to schedule surgery, Again high prolactin gyno does not go away. That’s why trannys take medicine to increase prolactin so the gyno doesn’t go away when they cease taking medication like Domperidone to increase prolactin and by proxy-Breast tissue.

High e2 gyno is much less severe and it takes much longer to get it, Not taking an AI for two weeks won’t give you gyno. You can take Raloxifene or Nolvadex for high e2 gyno if it JUST started (like you just noticed your nips are very puffy) and you can continue taking it until e2 is back under control with your AI but once it’s breast tissue nothing will reverse it or make it disappear besides surgery. You can definitely take nolvadex to prevent gyno but not with a 19nor, I take nolvadex when I run anadrol or dbol because an AI alone won’t stop gyno on those compounds if your prone to it.

 

[system]

@99powerstroke
I’m never prone to gyno. Ever.
Like I can run ridiculous amounts of Dbol and test or whatever compound with no issues.

But I started running 600mg test and 300mg ment a week. Gyno started coming on, not visible but I can feel like little bbs or pellets behind my nipple. So since 600mg test doesn’t cause any sensitive nipples. I figured it had to be prolactin from ment. You agree or? So I want to get rid of the gyno without surgery lol, it’s not visible now but if I mess up again then it will be lol.

I was running nolvadex 20mg 3x a week and I didn’t think I’d need an AI but once it started coming on, I ordered aromasin, took that for 2/3 weeks before stopping the ment.

 

[system]

@nswole1 You know I’m not sure man. I’ve never run trest before but I briefly considered it a few months ago. I read a lot about it and I read A LOT of stories on other forums and reddit about dudes getting gyno from even lowish dosages of 150mg a week. But I’d also read stories of guys running double that and having their prolactin in range when they got bloods. I decided to shy away from it for now because it’s still a relatively new compound compared to other AAS that cause high prolactin that have been around forever like tren and deca. I luckily never got gyno either as a teenager or as an adult using steroids. But I know a guy who had gyno surgery (from tren) and from my understanding they do the surgery two ways. They either remove the entire tissue completely which makes it nearly impossible to get gyno ever again, Or they just remove enough tissue to make the gyno not noticeable but gyno can still come back. The first method occasionally leaves a small recessed area behind the nipple because so much tissue was removed but it’s not very noticeable if you lift and have a developed chest. Compared to a dyel teenager who had his pubertal gyno removed by the same method. Shockingly some basic insurance policies cover this surgery and even if yours doesn’t it’s not as expensive as you might think. My friend with the tren gyno paid $6,000 something because he had no insurance at all. I thought that was pretty low because I paid almost double that for a hernia surgery.

 

[Gbunk]

Well I would certainly look into caber or bromo and or an aromatase even though it’s not estro related and see what’s out there.

 

[Gbunk]

Not all gyno is permanent that is incorrect. I’ve reversed it before. Also, you are wrong about surgery… 1. If the remove the gland, which is what estrogen binds to, you don’t have to worry about gyno ever coming back I’d the do it correctly
2. If you get a good doctor who knows they are doing, you would not have a recessed area because they will blend the tissue together to make it look more natural. I know one doctor who talked about it on his website and does it for bodybuilders.
I’m not trying to be an ass but if you are going to chip in, you need to know what you are talking about.

 

[Gbunk]

The doctor also has before and after pictures and they look normal.

 

[system]

Thank you both. @99powerstroke @Gbunk

 

[system]

@Gbunk I didn’t say all gyno is permanent where did you read that? I also wasn’t wrong about gyno surgery, I clearly explained there are different methods to remove gyno.

And why would you suggest looking into a aromatase inhibitor when it’s been clearly stated it’s a prolactin issue? An AI is not going to affect prolactin.

 

[Gbunk]

@99powerstroke there is talk that for prolactin gyno to happen, estrogen needs to be present. Whatever the case may be, that’s why I’m telling OP to research on his on let alone everyone being different.