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Question for guys who have reversed/shrunk gyno with ralox/nolva.

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What else did you adjust with your cycle/cruise? Did you keep your estrogen on the lower side or keep everything the same?
 
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I googled this and found contradicting evidence that it cannot be reversed with Nolva. IDK if it’s true or not but I’d take some if I thought it would help. I have a whole pack that’s just sitting there and I have the early stages right now where it’s a hard lump beneath the skin but isn’t puffy yet like full blown gyno boobs. Mine’s far below and is sore if you press on it. It’s a little round lump in both sides now… so whatever I could do right now I would. I’ve read you might need letrozole but it’s harsh.

If anyone has actually shrunk their gyno at the early stages with Nolva here, let’s hear about it. Mine just started about a month ago or so and I used to have ZERO gyno signs/symptoms.
 
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I’d recommend letro. Completely removed massive gyno. I thought I was gonna have to have surgery. Shit cleared up fast too. Only downsides were I felt like I was 700 years old and my dick quit working for like 3 months. Lmao… But the gyno is gone.
 
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I’d recommend letro. Completely removed massive gyno. I thought I was gonna have to have surgery. Shit cleared up fast too. Only downsides were I felt like I was 700 years old and my dick quit working for like 3 months. Lmao… But the gyno is gone.
Dayum. 700 years old and dead dick huh. ROTFL. 3 months. Ouch. I’m gonna try low dose Nolva since it’s early signs. I’ll start at 10mg a day and bump it to 20mg maybe during the 3rd week. I only have 50 pills at the moment so…
 
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I’d recommend letro. Completely removed massive gyno. I thought I was gonna have to have surgery. Shit cleared up fast too. Only downsides were I felt like I was 700 years old and my dick quit working for like 3 months. Lmao… But the gyno is gone.
Dayum. 700 years old and dead dick huh. ROTFL. 3 months. Ouch. I’m gonna try low dose Nolva since it’s early signs. I’ll start at 10mg a day and bump it to 20mg maybe during the 3rd week. I only have 50 pills at the moment so…
Have had gyno going on 4 years. Isn’t noticeable unless I stop taking AI completely while using 250+ test. On 500+ test I use 2.5mg letro eod and do just fine with no noticeable lump. Everyone is different, but my advice even in early stages is to nuke it using 2.5mg letro ed for at least 4 weeks. Get it gone and handle your AI dosing properly with a fresh start. It’s not worth letting time pass til the point it’s irreversible.
 
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I’d recommend letro. Completely removed massive gyno. I thought I was gonna have to have surgery. Shit cleared up fast too. Only downsides were I felt like I was 700 years old and my dick quit working for like 3 months. Lmao… But the gyno is gone.
Dayum. 700 years old and dead dick huh. ROTFL. 3 months. Ouch. I’m gonna try low dose Nolva since it’s early signs. I’ll start at 10mg a day and bump it to 20mg maybe during the 3rd week. I only have 50 pills at the moment so…
Have had gyno going on 4 years. Isn’t noticeable unless I stop taking AI completely while using 250+ test. On 500+ test I use 2.5mg letro eod and do just fine with no noticeable lump. Everyone is different, but my advice even in early stages is to nuke it using 2.5mg letro ed for at least 4 weeks. Get it gone and handle your AI dosing properly with a fresh start. It’s not worth letting time pass til the point it’s irreversible.
There’s a very fine line between crashing your estro and finding your sweet spot with your ai of choice… your AI protocol is pretty stout, my estro would be in the toilet if I ran 2.5 mg letro eod even on a gram of test
 
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Primobro" pid='56510' dateline='1560143819:
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I’d recommend letro. Completely removed massive gyno. I thought I was gonna have to have surgery. Shit cleared up fast too. Only downsides were I felt like I was 700 years old and my dick quit working for like 3 months. Lmao… But the gyno is gone.
Dayum. 700 years old and dead dick huh. ROTFL. 3 months. Ouch. I’m gonna try low dose Nolva since it’s early signs. I’ll start at 10mg a day and bump it to 20mg maybe during the 3rd week. I only have 50 pills at the moment so…
Have had gyno going on 4 years. Isn’t noticeable unless I stop taking AI completely while using 250+ test. On 500+ test I use 2.5mg letro eod and do just fine with no noticeable lump. Everyone is different, but my advice even in early stages is to nuke it using 2.5mg letro ed for at least 4 weeks. Get it gone and handle your AI dosing properly with a fresh start. It’s not worth letting time pass til the point it’s irreversible.
There’s a very fine line between crashing your estro and finding your sweet spot with your ai of choice… your AI protocol is pretty stout, my estro would be in the toilet if I ran 2.5 mg letro eod even on a gram of test
Exactly. I know that I’m not one that converts estrogen quickly because I’m pretty low bodyfat and it doesn’t take but 2 Asin pills a week to eventually seem to crash it so for me there is a fine line between not feeling good/hot flashes or not taking enough. I used to get away with 1 asin 12.5mg and 1/4 adex. I mixed them because 1/4 adex even 2x a week didn’t seem enough, but 2 Asin seemed too much. I’d rather feel cold at night than burning up because that makes it very hard to get comfortable. I’m going to try the 10mg of Nolva for awhile but so far it does seem like it’s heating my body temp up for some reason.
 
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I agree with don. I had a developing lump so I nuked it with letro and took rolax (because I read that is more aggressive whether it is or not…) and had it gone in a little over a month. I don’t like to fuck around and I’d rather be safe then sorry when it comes to that. Just me though. I felt fine with crashed estrogen. Had little bit of dry joints and hot flashes maybe 3 or so times at most. 2.5mg metro ed and 30mg relax I think ed.
 
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I agree with don. I had a developing lump so I nuked it with letro and took rolax (because I read that is more aggressive whether it is or not…) and had it gone in a little over a month. I don’t like to fuck around and I’d rather be safe then sorry when it comes to that. Just me though. I felt fine with crashed estrogen. Had little bit of dry joints and hot flashes maybe 3 or so times at most. 2.5mg metro ed and 30mg relax I think ed.
The dry joints are what got me. I had a hard time walking. Felt like my ankles were breaking haha. I’m not familiar with rolax. I will have to Google it.
 
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Made a spelling mistake, full name is raloxifene. I thought it worked well.
 
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I’m 3 weeks into giving ralox a chance. No change yet but I know it’s early.
 
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Letro seems to be the real scoop but prepare for trouble. If I wanted to live until I was 70 I’d do it, but I’d tolerate the minor early stages of gyno and take the Nolva instead. So far I have no side effects on Nolva… not sure what they are but I seem fine so far. Sex drive is same as usual. I’ve heard it’s pointless on cycle unless you feel early gyno… of course I’ve also read from some it did help, some it did not.
 
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Letro seems to be the real scoop but prepare for trouble. If I wanted to live until I was 70 I’d do it, but I’d tolerate the minor early stages of gyno and take the Nolva instead. So far I have no side effects on Nolva… not sure what they are but I seem fine so far. Sex drive is same as usual. I’ve heard it’s pointless on cycle unless you feel early gyno… of course I’ve also read from some it did help, some it did not.
This fucking genius and his infinite wisdom being passed around again.
 
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This fucking genius and his infinite wisdom being passed around again.
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You could get off my nuts any day now dude. Are u queer or something? Nothing wrong with being gay but jesus… you are a fucking child. You’re making yourself look like a total dbag I hope you know. Everyone but you has stopped with that harassing. I’m embarrassed for you actually so , do what makes u feel like a man. Thread stalking and making a more pointless post than even mine. At least mine’s just a thought bubble about the situation. You POST a comment about ME personally… and you don’t see the irony in that? You make a post not even about anything because you have no advice… except to shit on me. God damn u must be a cool dude to hang around with.
 
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This fucking genius and his infinite wisdom being passed around again.
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You could get off my nuts any day now dude. Are u queer or something? Nothing wrong with being gay but jesus… you are a fucking child. You’re making yourself look like a total dbag I hope you know. Everyone but you has stopped with that harassing. I’m embarrassed for you actually so , do what makes u feel like a man. Thread stalking and making a more pointless post than even mine. At least mine’s just a thought bubble about the situation. You POST a comment about ME personally… and you don’t see the irony in that? You make a post not even about anything because you have no advice… except to shit on me. God damn u must be a cool dude to hang around with.
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Here I’ll address this shit once again.

First, I’m going to fucking call you out every time I see you post some retarded shit, case in point your post in this thread. If you want me to stop calling you out, stop posting dumb shit. Nobody gives a fuck about your “thought bubbles”.

Second I’ve posted at least 3 times the gyno reversal protocol so if OP bothered to search before posting he would have found it. Not going to bother posting it again.
 
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@“Jacked” Some of us have theorized that pippypants is Jason Genova in real life. It would explain everything
 
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This fucking genius and his infinite wisdom being passed around again.
You could get off my nuts any day now dude. Are u queer or something? Nothing wrong with being gay but jesus… you are a fucking child. You’re making yourself look like a total dbag I hope you know. Everyone but you has stopped with that harassing. I’m embarrassed for you actually so , do what makes u feel like a man. Thread stalking and making a more pointless post than even mine. At least mine’s just a thought bubble about the situation. You POST a comment about ME personally… and you don’t see the irony in that? You make a post not even about anything because you have no advice… except to shit on me. God damn u must be a cool dude to hang around with.
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Here I’ll address this shit once again.

First, I’m going to fucking call you out every time I see you post some retarded shit, case in point your post in this thread. If you want me to stop calling you out, stop posting dumb shit. Nobody gives a fuck about your “thought bubbles”.

Second I’ve posted at least 3 times the gyno reversal protocol so if OP bothered to search before posting he would have found it. Not going to bother posting it again.
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No where in “this” thread have you said anything of worth. You never posted anything about searching for gyno issues. Simply stfu please. Just keep thread stalking Karen.
 
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I agree with don. I had a developing lump so I nuked it with letro and took rolax (because I read that is more aggressive whether it is or not…) and had it gone in a little over a month. I don’t like to fuck around and I’d rather be safe then sorry when it comes to that. Just me though. I felt fine with crashed estrogen. Had little bit of dry joints and hot flashes maybe 3 or so times at most. 2.5mg metro ed and 30mg relax I think ed.
You had no depression with low e2?
 
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I get more depressed on Low T than low Estrogen. I get more emotional if I don’t take a typical week of AI though. The most even keel emotion would be somewhat zombie like. Just happy for no reason at all… that’s the best feeling. Nothing bothers you and I can usually tell if things are going out of whack. I get more annoyed with people in general, even more so than normal. LOL.
 
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