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[MyOldCrypto]

Absolutely terrible test results. My Last test results were 20 non-motile sperm, NOT 20 million. The results I have posted above are just blank as if they're zero sperm???? WTF. My Girls OBGYN said yes thats correct 0. Meaning things have gotten worse despite me taking HCG 350units M,W,F for almost 2 months. Also, before I took this semen analysis I was off HCG for about 2-3 weeks BUT I did take a does of 350units HCG and 75units of HMG the night before the test.

Please advise. The OBGY said i need to speak to yet another doctor and she referred me to him so that he can get to the bottom of things. Maybe there is a blockage or something she said??? I will say this, doctors will not prescribe HCG or HMG so basically going to this doctor will be a waste of my time unless he does extensive testing.

Finally, I do have a penile dopplar schedule on saturday. Will this tell me if there are any blockages? What is the name of the test for that.

Before anything is said. The reason the OBGYN is advising me is because I was with my 2nd wife there today for some stuff since were trying to conceive she asked to see my semen analysis results and it led to this conversation.

 

[ThinBulk]

I'm interested in how this works out. Is there a reason doctors wont prescribe you HCG or HMG? How long have you been blasting, cruising, etc?

 

[MyOldCrypto]

I'm interested in how this works out. Is there a reason doctors wont prescribe you HCG or HMG? How long have you been blasting, cruising, etc?

Because most doctors in my opinion are clueless pussys that are trained to error on the side of caution.

For one of many examples I will provide.

I suffer from sever Ed and sperm issues. After explaining to the doctor my body count and I have no performance anxiety issues, I also have no libido issues, also that viagra and cialis do not work by themselves, this guy prescribes me ginseng...... wtf....

Anyway, to answer your second question, I have been running T for about 20 years with 6.5 years off while I was locked up.

I never cruise less than 650mg a week and I don't blast

 

[laxman3221]

I never cruise less than 650mg a week and I don't blast

So you're on a permanent blast of 650+ as that's not a cruise. My guess is that would be the reason you're at zero. Did you share this info with the Dr?

 

[ThinBulk]

Because most doctors in my opinion are clueless pussys that are trained to error on the side of caution.

For one of many examples I will provide.

I suffer from sever Ed and sperm issues. After explaining to the doctor my body count and I have no performance anxiety issues, I also have no libido issues, also that viagra and cialis do not work by themselves, this guy prescribes me ginseng...... wtf....

Anyway, to answer your second question, I have been running T for about 20 years with 6.5 years off while I was locked up.

I never cruise less than 650mg a week and I don't blast

I've seen a bunch of guys who cruise very high like you have a LOT of ED issues. I've never found any info on why the change happens, but it seems universal.

There's a study showing that guys that don't lift can maintain over 1million sperm count even on 200+mg/week (131% of base test levels). Others go to near zero very quickly. The fertility rate in these is always dose dependent though. 650mg/wk I'd bet has just been crushing your feedback system for too long. Your nuts need to be producing their own test to be fertile. Dropping to 150-200 for a while might be a drag, but it could solve both of your issues.

 

[dick_starbuck]

350iu of HCG is probably not enough. Try 1000iu 2-3x weekly with 75iu HMG 2-3 times a week. And definitely lower your test to 200ish mgs a week to lessen the suppression on your boys.

 

[AlexDavis43]

350iu of HCG is probably not enough. Try 1000iu 2-3x weekly with 75iu HMG 2-3 times a week. And definitely lower your test to 200ish mgs a week to lessen the suppression on your boys.

For fertility, it's like the Crissler+ Protocol

750 IU hCG EOD, 75 IU HMG E3d.

Seems like overkill but if you're trying to make babies on TRT (or TRT+ or higher dose cruise etc), might be worth looking in to.

 

[MyOldCrypto]

So you're on a permanent blast of 650+ as that's not a cruise. My guess is that would be the reason you're at zero. Did you share this info with the Dr?

Yes, I have forwarded the results to the urologist and he referred me to the fertility clinic which is a 4 hour drive from where we are located in ph :/

I've seen a bunch of guys who cruise very high like you have a LOT of ED issues. I've never found any info on why the change happens, but it seems universal.

There's a study showing that guys that don't lift can maintain over 1million sperm count even on 200+mg/week (131% of base test levels). Others go to near zero very quickly. The fertility rate in these is always dose dependent though. 650mg/wk I'd bet has just been crushing your feedback system for too long. Your nuts need to be producing their own test to be fertile. Dropping to 150-200 for a while might be a drag, but it could solve both of your issues.

350iu of HCG is probably not enough. Try 1000iu 2-3x weekly with 75iu HMG 2-3 times a week. And definitely lower your test to 200ish mgs a week to lessen the suppression on your boys.

For fertility, it's like the Crissler+ Protocol

750 IU hCG EOD, 75 IU HMG E3d.

Seems like overkill but if you're trying to make babies on TRT (or TRT+ or higher dose cruise etc), might be worth looking in to.

I will try these higher dose protocols before I go to the infertility clinic as I'm almost completely certain this is test related.

However, maybe not. My first gf and I had plenty of sex and she never got pregnant and I'd only been on test for a month or so when we started getting busy.

Anyone here know what could cause zero sperm other then test?

Is there anything that can be done by medical staff if worst case scenario I'm completely infertile?

I'm thinking ivf wouldn't even work because there's no sperm! Please help calm my mind so I can rest easy tonight.

And thank you so much everyone

 

[dick_starbuck]

You could be naturally low in fertility. These things happen. However it's likely due to your use of androgens.

1000iu hcg/75iu hmg 3x a week MAY bring these numbers up. You may also want to stop testosterone completely and start clomid or enclomiphene. I believe toremifene is also supposed to be good for fertility.

Outside of this I'm not sure what medical interventions are available. However these interventions have a good track record. It will take time though, as in several months on the protocol listed above.

 

[MyOldCrypto]

You could be naturally low in fertility. These things happen. However it's likely due to your use of androgens.

1000iu hcg/75iu hmg 3x a week MAY bring these numbers up. You may also want to stop testosterone completely and start clomid or enclomiphene. I believe toremifene is also supposed to be good for fertility.

Outside of this I'm not sure what medical interventions are available. However these interventions have a good track record. It will take time though, as in several months on the protocol listed above.

I'm currently taking 50mg Clomid m w f
Should I tape off the test and begin the protocol sir?

 

[dick_starbuck]

I'm currently taking 50mg Clomid m w f
Should I tape off the test and begin the protocol sir?

I mean I'm not a doctor haha.

That is what I would do if I was trying to achieve fertility though. You might be able to get away with a true TRT dose of 150mg testosterone weekly.

 

[laxman3221]

I'm currently taking 50mg Clomid m w f
Should I tape off the test and begin the protocol sir?

Clomid isn't doing a thing while you're on that much test. It's a waste. You want swimmers back, stop taking test and PCT and try to get your natural production restarted.

Are your nuts BB sized? You need to see what your LH and FSH levels are.

 

[MyOldCrypto]

Clomid isn't doing a thing while you're on that much test. It's a waste. You want swimmers back, stop taking test and PCT and try to get your natural production restarted.

Are your nuts BB sized? You need to see what your LH and FSH levels are.

My nuts are standard size right now sir

 

[MyOldCrypto]

For fertility, it's like the Crissler+ Protocol

750 IU hCG EOD, 75 IU HMG E3d.

Seems like overkill but if you're trying to make babies on TRT (or TRT+ or higher dose cruise etc), might be worth looking in to.

Clomid isn't doing a thing while you're on that much test. It's a waste. You want swimmers back, stop taking test and PCT and try to get your natural production restarted.

Are your nuts BB sized? You need to see what your LH and FSH levels are.

You could be naturally low in fertility. These things happen. However it's likely due to your use of androgens.

1000iu hcg/75iu hmg 3x a week MAY bring these numbers up. You may also want to stop testosterone completely and start clomid or enclomiphene. I believe toremifene is also supposed to be good for fertility.

Outside of this I'm not sure what medical interventions are available. However these interventions have a good track record. It will take time though, as in several months on the protocol listed above.

For fertility, it's like the Crissler+ Protocol

750 IU hCG EOD, 75 IU HMG E3d.

Seems like overkill but if you're trying to make babies on TRT (or TRT+ or higher dose cruise etc), might be worth looking in to.

350iu of HCG is probably not enough. Try 1000iu 2-3x weekly with 75iu HMG 2-3 times a week. And definitely lower your test to 200ish mgs a week to lessen the suppression on your boys.

He guys,

Just got done my appointment with ivf guys. Waste of my damn money.

They basically told me similar stuff that I need to stop the test and only then will I see results from the hcg and hmg and referred me back to the urologists (the urologist originally referred me to ivf... wtf)

They said I might need a biopsy to determine if my testicales are still producing any sperm at all. I asked them why would we preform a biopsy before trying hcg and hmg with the lengthy testosterone history. After all, the body builders I talk to have similar problems and they all bounced back.

Their Story about the invasive biopsy quickly changed and they said that I need to stop the test before seeing any results from the hcg and hmg and referred me back to urology. Urology can't do a damn thing so I don't know what this is about

 

[dick_starbuck]

Like I said previously bro, drop down to true TRT of 150mg a week or come off all together. Start 1000iu HCG 3x a week and 75iu HMG 3x a week, and clomid 50mg a day for three months and retest. This is a standard protocol for male fertility.

 

[203_Aesthetics]

check out vigorous steve's youtube channel if you haven't already. These standard doctors aren't always able to assist or give the best advice to enhanced individuals im starting to realize.

 

[MyOldCrypto]

Like I said previously bro, drop down to true TRT of 150mg a week or come off all together. Start 1000iu HCG 3x a week and 75iu HMG 3x a week, and clomid 50mg a day for three months and retest. This is a standard protocol for male fertility.

We have a problem,

I thought I ordered a bunch of hcg but I accidently ordered hmg fragment.

There will be about ten days I'm off hcg while I wait for my next delivery. However, I will still be running the hmg at 75iu.

What will this do to my fertility?

Will I have to start hcg from day 1 again meaning I just wasted a bunch of hcg?