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Sleeve Surgery

mez2020

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Years of high-stress jobs and school lead to major cortisol releases and then fast food didn’t help. BF has always been an issue. Nothing extreme but not ideal. Age doesn’t help either almost pushing 50. Several years of cycles in and major noticeable changes in frame, pushing weight at the gym, and just generally smashing goals.

Eating very clean (for the most part), off-cycle (6-9 months at a time) caloric deficit, almost sickening 1400-1600 calories a day. Results, can bring the BF down to 20% tops but with a fair amount of muscle loss. Done intermittent, ECA, caloric deficit, HIIT, moderate sustained cardio, 2 hours intense cardio a day, everything and anything in between.

Saw a surgeon to look at options. No on lipo, barely any sub fat as it’s relating to body regulating stress levels and not bad eating so a waste. Get referred out to a bariatric spot. Blood tests run, blah, blah, blah. Doc says “not going to ask you about your exercise as just from looking at you I can tell you are not a stranger to the gym.” Most likely diet will not correct this as it sounds like you have it somewhat dialed in. You are a candidate for sleeve surgery.

I do my research, definitely a big deal. Probably can get through it but from what I can tell, there is no mention of anybody returning to AS and trying to put on gains after the surgery. Weightlifters? Sure. Building lean muscle? Some. But I don’t believe lean muscle is what I am looking for here. Capable of getting down to single-digit BF% and staying there? Most definitely. But nothing about what I wanted to know. The best I could find is a few folks talked about being natty and maybe getting in 3,000 of calories a day between 5-6 meals a day. Sleeve is removing the upper stomach so you can’t eat as much in one sitting and removing the hormone receptor sites that tell you to hold on to your meals.

Anybody have experience with folks being able to successfully get back into lifting, putting on good gains with AS after going through gastric bypass or sleeve surgery? Trying to decide if I am just going to deal with what I have been dealt as exercise, rest, and diet have been on point for several years or take the leap.
 
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EpicFlash

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@mez2020
If you can achieve 20% BF and maintain it then it’s quite absurd to consider such a drastic surgery. VSG is and never was designed for “chubby” folks. It was intended to help reduce weight in morbidly obese folks WITH multiple co-morbidity issues. VSG has become a big money maker for doctors who specialize in that.
 
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system

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@mez2020 “eating clean (for the most part)”

I stopped reading there. Your issue isn’t your genes or your body. It’s that you lack discipline. You are in a steroid source forum, Everyone on this forum has put strong discipline into achieving what they want. You simply don’t want it hard enough. The only thing holding you back is you. Only you can decide if you achieve your goals.
 

LightningLeg

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The sleeve is for fatasses that can’t see their toes and still don’t stop and think “I should probably go for a walk and stop eating twizzlers for breakfast”. All it’s gonna do is force you not to eat. IMO it’s stupid. Several obese people close to me have gotten it, and they stretch their stomach back out and end up getting fat again. It’s fucking stupid. Just like @99powerstroke said. It’s about discipline. And those people just don’t have any. Cutting weight sucks dude, big time. But it’s what it takes to look the way you want to, and that’s what separates the boys from the men. Use and appetite suppressant, take some fat burners, do whatever, but putting a sleeve in your stomach because you can’t stop eating is just cowardly in my humble opinion. Not trying to be an asshole or disrespectful, that’s just what it is and I’m not gonna lie about it.
 
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fatliftingdude

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My Brother has gotten a sleeve surgery in 2019. He lost a bit of weight initially, but maybe went from 150 to 110 kg … going up and down again over the last few years, and now is upward the 125kg point again, just getting fatter and fatter each month.

The 10k Euro were not worth this at all.
 
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SavageVisions

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Well this is a topic I’m very familiar with I’m super against any weight loss surgery unless you are in the 509 lb category! 5 years ago I weighed 420 lbs and now I’m weighing in around 240 when I’m not bulking. So the sleeve is just laziness in my opinion.
 
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