[Source] Synergy Forge

[Knan]

I asked you about your RU58841. To which I got the response: "We've identified a weak link in the use of unencrypted email servers (yahoo Gmail ect)." A forwarded email may have been used, but the domain did not belong to yahoo, outlook or Gmail. Which made it seem like you were just throwing out a generic response in some type of a panic. Then I never got my question answered. A lot of frustration comes from the fact that a lot of sources on here advertise a product in the OP, yet they don't even post testing for nearly half of their stuff. For example, HCG is advertised across the board here as 5000iu, but what if you dilute that and it doesn't seem to induce the desired effect? If it was actually closer to 2000iu then one wouldn't add as much water, however, I don't see why outside of bloods the testing is on the customer when other reputable sources elsewhere would just post a recent batch test and a user would actually know the level of dillutent to be used within a reasonable range of each batch of vials. We've all seen new user accounts post rave reviews, but do any of them actually know the purity? It seems like more fanboying and hyping sources rather than having a closer to transparent way of verifying what's actually being shipped/sold to a customer. It shouldn't be: "just trust me bro his test e works and the shipping was fast so I know every other product must be exactly as advertised."

It not solely a trust based system man if you're going to question the purity of the products you have to do your own testing to back it up. This is a proven source your argument is based on blind speculation.

 

[Knan]

Shout out to synergy forge for having the best prices on mk677 and yk-11, these two compounds make an amazing addition to any stack. Also test p 200mg $45 is a steal!

 

[Synergy Forge]

Yes it is sir.

Is the L-Carnitine in Oil or is it thick ass water since it's such a high concentration? @TanHumor

It is a water based product with a concentration of 1g/ml

 

[Synergy Forge]

I asked you about your RU58841. To which I got the response: "We've identified a weak link in the use of unencrypted email servers (yahoo Gmail ect)." A forwarded email may have been used, but the domain did not belong to yahoo, outlook or Gmail. Which made it seem like you were just throwing out a generic response in some type of a panic. Then I never got my question answered. A lot of frustration comes from the fact that a lot of sources on here advertise a product in the OP, yet they don't even post testing for nearly half of their stuff. For example, HCG is advertised across the board here as 5000iu, but what if you dilute that and it doesn't seem to induce the desired effect? If it was actually closer to 2000iu then one wouldn't add as much water, however, I don't see why outside of bloods the testing is on the customer when other reputable sources elsewhere would just post a recent batch test and a user would actually know the level of dillutent to be used within a reasonable range of each batch of vials. We've all seen new user accounts post rave reviews, but do any of them actually know the purity? It seems like more fanboying and hyping sources rather than having a closer to transparent way of verifying what's actually being shipped/sold to a customer. It shouldn't be: "just trust me bro his test e works and the shipping was fast so I know every other product must be exactly as advertised."

I'm actually having a tough time following your logic here, hopefully you can clarify a few things for me. But first let me start with your opening statement.

I asked you about your RU58841. To which I got the response: "We've identified a weak link in the use of unencrypted email servers......
I addressed this a few pages back very thoroughly. Please feel free to take a look. I don't panic, I'm pretty laid back and confident in my knowledge and ability, I don't feel the need to showboat, boast, nor challenge others to prove I'm not inferior. I try never to lose sight of the reasons I'm here, and treat everyone with dignity and respect. The process of doing so negates any form of arguing or flexing. In addition, I welcome people to challenge my knowledge as it increases it considerably when I am weak on a subject since it requires me to focus on it, detail what I do know, acknowledge what I don't know, and appreciate those that know more than me. You can't catch me blowing smoke due to the fact that I just don't spout things of which I know nothing about, rather, I admire those that know more and consider it a learning opportunity to a lifetime learner. So your assumption that I panicked in the face of an unknown product doesn't dovetail with my personal philosophy, and I would never do such a thing. I'm not a "shoot from the hip" kind of person when it comes to my work. Your body is your temple and I respect that more than you may understand.

A lot of frustration comes from the fact that a lot of sources on here advertise a product in the OP, yet they don't even post testing for nearly half of their stuff.
I've addressed this several times, but I'm going to take another angle at it this time. I am disappointed in the number of people that have taken me up on my reimbursement for testing. As stated in my original posting, When I started this journey, I ordered out of the back of a magazine with absolutely no knowledge of what I received, or even if I was receiving anything. I looked at a lot of different ways to prevent that from happening for my customers and ultimately decided on the free testing of products on a blind test. I test my own products, I use my own equipment and formulas for HPLC column testing. Admittedly there are some weaknesses in my testing ability that wouldn't hold up to scientific scrutiny, but for my purposes the testing is well suited. It not only identifies, but also quantifies a compound. This testing is critical to me since it can be done on a moments notice and the process doesn't take an abnormally long time to run once begun. I don't brag about this ability, nor do I post the results, as they are an in-house tool that is to be used much like any other tool that I have. I'm certainly no expert on chromatography, merely having capitalized on the explosion of marijuana legalization and the surplus of the machinery used in that process. I have a very narrow education on it and wouldn't even know where to start on a soil sample or anything outside my narrow scope. So who could have confidence in that kind of setup? Hence why they aren't for the public. My amateur testing, coupled with the opportunity of professional testing puts a powerful tool in the hands of the user. When you receive a product that I have produced, you are getting my test results in which I state on the label the concentration of the product. The real magic lies in the ability to corroborate that from a nationally recognized lab for free. I love Janoshik to death, but the reality is that the process to test with that gentleman is slow. By the time I receive my test results from him, I am rarely on the same "batch", and so it would be a constant cycle of hurry up and wait, constantly having to explain why I am witholding products from market. This would, in turn, frustrate customers and they would turn to those that don't do any testing at all but have their products available. That being said, I have used Janoshik considerably and spent an enormous amount of money with him in my need to dial in my testing procedure as I compared notes. I didn't post those either because I initiated that testing, so it wasn't blind testing; therefore, not very valuable to the consumer in my opinion. I have tested every single compound I have with that company but consider it a sales gimmick to post. I find it hard to believe a source, especially one entrenched in constant controversy, doesn't manipulate a compound merely for the purpose of testing. It's like your daily driver of a car, sure, you might wash it often and even vacuum it out once in a while, but if you are going to a car show you will spend the entire day washing, buffing, scrubbing, detailing, and making it smell good. Giving people the suggestion that your car looks like that year round. But if your buddy takes it to the car show without your knowledge, then the truth comes out and people see it for what it is, not what you want them to see it is. This whole testing debate is a juggling act for me, I hear from some that they want legitimate lab testing from me for me and I struggle with that internally as it is rife with the potentially unrealized disengenuous confidence of the user. Since my entire premise is about the customer, it is in direct conflict of that belief. It would also, and more importantly in my mind, it would deter and devalue the importance of blind testing from the end-user. You have the power to overcome your frustration (with regards to me) from perceived lack of testing in a way that is both meaningful and irrefutable, I would be honored if you would take advantage of that. I think that what I will do is change it up a bit and replace any vial that is sent in for testing or refund that amount back to the customer. So to whomever is reading this, if you are going to order from me, consider ordering an extra vial or oral package knowing that I will refund your money for it if it is sent in for testing AND I am unaware of your intentions. I would love nothing more than give away a ton of gear in the future based on this. It would be dumb of me to not hear the constant drum of voices for a third party sef-testing though, and as such, in an effort to placate those that find it valuable yet are unwilling or unable to perform the legitimate process I have sent 20 of my most popular products to testing and can only give my word that they have not been given special attention in the brewing or compounding process. Results will be posted this time. History has taught me though, that those whom are the most vocal about the subject are not generally customers of mine and enjoy creating controversy; yet if only a single person benefits from it (other than me) then it is worth it.

HCG is advertised across the board here as 5000iu, but what if you dilute that and it doesn't seem to induce the desired effect? If it was actually closer to 2000iu then one wouldn't add as much water, however, I don't see why outside of bloods the testing is on the customer when other reputable sources elsewhere would just post a recent batch test and a user would actually know the level of dillutent to be used within a reasonable range of each batch of vials......
I am struggling to understand your thought process here, you can't dilute hcg. You can reconstitute it, given that it is in a lypholized form, but to dilute something would be to add water to a liquid product or combine a higher concentration with a lower concentration which is essentially the same thing. If you are referring to selling a 2,000mcg vial as a 5,000mcg vial then that generally falls on the honesty of the source. Since trust in this industry is earned and not given, those that work so hard for their reputation are not inclined to gamble their passion for a few dollars or even 30 dollars. That type of behavior lands directly on the 'form follows function' concept that I subscribe to heavily: If they do it on one product, then chances are they are doing it on more. With behavior like that, sources rarely last long and are exposed quite quickly. The exception to the source-initiated testing debate is initial startup though, and I acknowledge that. You either give away hundreds or thousands of products in the hopes that some will be tested or you send them in for testing yourself in an attempt to pursuede your audience that what you tested is what they'll get. Regardless of the path chosen, both still produce a product on your kitchen counter that you have no idea what is inside and since you just spent all your disposable income on a cycle, you now do not have the ability to even find out.

We've all seen new user accounts post rave reviews, but do any of them actually know the purity? It seems like more fanboying and hyping sources rather than having a closer to transparent way of verifying what's actually being shipped/sold to a customer. It shouldn't be
I couldn't agree more with you.

You can say that what you might about me and what I do or don't do, and be skeptical about my products or my intentions but I have taken the time to address all of your concerns listed in this posting, some might say too long and wish it was shorter, in a very imformative and descriptive way, giving details and transparency in the best way that I know how. Can you say say that any other source in your past has given you as much of their time as was needed to achieve such a task in a respectable tone? If so then that is truly a good source because typically form follows function, but if not, then perhaps you should consider raising your expectations. I really do appreciate the questions, it provides an opportunity to explain to others that might have the same questions in their mind but don't want to put themselves out there. I also feel that you will have more and that is wonderful, feel free to ask any question you would like and I will continue to give a comprehensive answer if I know it. I don't have all the answers for sure, but I'll never give up trying to find them for you.

Thank you,
Syn

 

[Jaygalindo16]

Anyone have tips for reducing the swelling from Primo? It’s nothing too bad but it does remain a bit swollen for like 3-4 days after injection? Also I have been pinning in the same spot for about 6 months could that be it too?

 

[TestDecaMast]

Anyone have tips for reducing the swelling from Primo? It’s nothing too bad but it does remain a bit swollen for like 3-4 days after injection? Also I have been pinning in the same spot for about 6 months could that be it too?

Warm up the oil before injection. And for sure rotate your pinning sites. Glutes and ventral glute. Gives you 4 easy sites.

 

[Wildcatlb37]

Everything the above post said. I use a coffee mug warmer, just set bottles right on it before injection for about 10 min. Also hot shower post shot and or heating pad def makes a huge difference for me..

 

[Aoi_116]

Anyone have tips for reducing the swelling from Primo? It’s nothing too bad but it does remain a bit swollen for like 3-4 days after injection? Also I have been pinning in the same spot for about 6 months could that be it too?

Mixing a 1:1 ratio with sterile oil helps. I’ve also found that spreading your shots out with an insulin syringe or a 3ml with a small guage needle. For example spreading out a mil or two over front, side and rear delts.

 

[csm0004]

Just want to give a shout out to Syn. I’ve been using this source for a bit now and the quality and service are always excellent. Lately I’ve been cutting with semaglutide and T3. The semaglutide is a much better price and is curbing my appetite more effectively than other sources I’ve used. The T3 helps keep my metabolism from crashing in a deficit. Very satisfied customer.

Also the above recommendations to reduce pip are spot on. I typically just do the warming trick and use a massage gun on my glutes and go for a walk. I get similar with primo but suspect I’m not going deep enough into the muscle because I get less swelling in my thigh than my glute. Though the thigh isn’t a fun spot to pin.

 

[Jonmon67]

Always great results from Syn! Also the shipping is crazy fast.

 

[cnote71]

Is it ok to use only 1ml of bac water or should I use 2ml for the semaglutide? What is the recommended amount. I added 1ml but it looks to have some white foam layer at the top I don't know if this was because I'm not using enough bacteriostatic water.

 

[pearineum]

Is it ok to use only 1ml of bac water or should I use 2ml for the semaglutide? What is the recommended amount. I added 1ml but it looks to have some white foam layer at the top I don't know if this was because I'm not using enough bacteriostatic water.

For peptides I usually use 2ml if its in a small vial and use this calculator

Peptide Calculator (Beta) ⋆ Peptide Reconstitution Calculator (Beta)

 

[cnote71]

For peptides I usually use 2ml if its in a small vial and use this calculator

Peptide Calculator (Beta) ⋆ Peptide Reconstitution Calculator (Beta)

Thanks. Ended up using 1ml the bubbles went away. I did 1ml because I don't want to pump that much liquid when I get to the higher dosages.

 

[TanHumor]

Anyone experiencing longer confirmation times with @Synergy Forge ? I’ve ordered from him several times and love his products but I’m a little concerned since reading previous recent threads. Sent him 480 last night for an order and still nothing back for confirmation. Usually hear back within two hours. I love his service but not a fan of not hearing back on confirmation after sending such a large amount of money. He’s usually good.

VB

 

[Cptchunk14]

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Anyone experiencing longer confirmation times with @Synergy Forge ? I’ve ordered from him several times and love his products but I’m a little concerned since reading previous recent threads. Sent him 480 last night for an order and still nothing back for confirmation. Usually hear back within two hours. I love his service but not a fan of not hearing back on confirmation after sending such a large amount of money. He’s usually good.

Just asking, but did you make sure you used a secure email account? Sent to the right address, and did you copy address correctly? He may be busy because of holidays. Please update when you hear back from Syn.

 

[TanHumor]

Did

Ya man I’ve used everything I’ve always used in the past with him. Been with him for a while now. Just never not heard back for this long after sending such a large purchase. Might be the holidays but still assuming he would have said confirmed by now. I’m currently off test and feeling lousy so that plays into it, but hopefully he gets back.

 

[Cptchunk14]

Ya man I’ve used everything I’ve always used in the past with him. Been with him for a while now. Just never not heard back for this long after sending such a large purchase. Might be the holidays but still assuming he would have said confirmed by now. I’m currently off test and feeling lousy so that plays into it, but hopefully he gets back.

“If you haven’t gotten a response within a couple of hours, during normal business hours, then I didn’t get your email. Hit me up again!”

This is from Syns intro. Hopefully it’s because of this.

 

[TanHumor]

“If you haven’t gotten a response within a couple of hours, during normal business hours, then I didn’t get your email. Hit me up again!”

This is from Syns intro. Hopefully it’s because of this.

Ya hoping it is. I sent another email to him and still nothin. Uneasy until I hear. But I’m hoping it’s just the holidays.

Happy holidays to everyone on here

 

[Cptchunk14]

Ya hoping it is. I sent another email to him and still nothin. Uneasy until I hear. But I’m hoping it’s just the holidays.

Happy holidays to everyone on here

It’s not normal business hours, I’ve emailed on weekend and he got back on Monday, hopefully this is the case, hoping it all works out for you, happy holidays !

 

[TanHumor]

It’s not normal business hours, I’ve emailed on weekend and he got back on Monday, hopefully this is the case, hoping it all works out for you, happy holidays !

Yup just gotta wait it out. He always has great service and products. Best test I’ve taken. We shall see.

Back at you brother !