Stacking HGH with a GHRP + GHRH combination

[MiniFridge]

Does anyone have any experience or info on stacking HGH with a GHRP + GHRH combination (GHRP-2 & CJC-1295 no/DAC)? I’ve seen conflicting information on this; some say that it works if I pin GH 15 minutes after peptides, and others say that GH greatly blunts the effect of the GHRH.

Ideally I’d just use pharma HGH but funds don’t allow it right now, and I’d rather not use peptides by themselves.

 

[John_Goddi]

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Does anyone have any experience or info on stacking HGH with a GHRP + GHRH combination (GHRP-2 & CJC-1295 no/DAC)? I’ve seen conflicting information on this; some say that it works if I pin GH 15 minutes after peptides, and others say that GH greatly blunts the effect of the GHRH.

Ideally I’d just use pharma HGH but funds don’t allow it right now, and I’d rather not use peptides by themselves.

It’s a waste of money to use both. HGH will suppress natural production ur peptides will induce more natural production. But if ur suppressing ur natural production then ur just wasting ur peptides.

 

[system]

1. Why wouldn’t you use peptides alone?
2. If you don’t have funds for pharma HGH (which is way overpriced anyway), just buy generics. You’ll get plenty of benefit.
3. What the other guy said. HGH is exogenous GH which shuts down natural GH production. GHRP increases the peak of natural GH cycles. So choose one or the other.

MiniFridge" pid='35169' dateline='1545783151:

Does anyone have any experience or info on stacking HGH with a GHRP + GHRH combination (GHRP-2 & CJC-1295 no/DAC)? I’ve seen conflicting information on this; some say that it works if I pin GH 15 minutes after peptides, and others say that GH greatly blunts the effect of the GHRH.

Ideally I’d just use pharma HGH but funds don’t allow it right now, and I’d rather not use peptides by themselves.

 

[abletolift]

I respectfully disagree. Why would you not run something to tell your body to continuously pulse your own natural production. The only suppression is in the morning with your dose of hgh for a few hours after. It’s the same principle as people who utilize hcg/hmg to stimulate the sarcoli cells and LH/FSH on cycle. I don’t know if any of you remember DatbTru or that forum but most of the users their were using high doses of both with the blood work to prove even after they dropped the exogenous hgh. Production was still online and natural pulses were still occurring. I mean it’s expensive regardless but if you can keep the natural system atleast firing in the background you can reap the best of both worlds. Then again an exorbitantly expensive option but for those who are not concerned with the price tag. Seems a good way to come off a hgh blast.

 

[Heavyweightmover]

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I respectfully disagree. Why would you not run something to tell your body to continuously pulse your own natural production. The only suppression is in the morning with your dose of hgh for a few hours after. It’s the same principle as people who utilize hcg/hmg to stimulate the sarcoli cells and LH/FSH on cycle. I don’t know if any of you remember DatbTru or that forum but most of the users their were using high doses of both with the blood work to prove even after they dropped the exogenous hgh. Production was still online and natural pulses were still occurring. I mean it’s expensive regardless but if you can keep the natural system atleast firing in the background you can reap the best of both worlds. Then again an exorbitantly expensive option but for those who are not concerned with the price tag. Seems a good way to come off a hgh blast.

I’ve been under this assumption as well. I’m not sure if there’s a proper “pct” to restart natural hgh production after long term use but I just assumed you didn’t need one due to the short time you are shut down. As a hgh user I may start throwing in mk677 at night just for the extra benefits.

 

[system]

HGH half-life and suppression of natural GH production are not the same thing. Although GH levels may be temporarily increased (hours), the increased IGF-1 will continue to suppress natural GH production (through increased somatostatin production) for up to days after final GH injection. So, you are in fact suppressing your natural GH spikes for much longer than the GH serum levels are increased.

GHRP and GHRH are not going to wake up your natural production.
abletolift" pid='35521' dateline='1546116542:

I respectfully disagree. Why would you not run something to tell your body to continuously pulse your own natural production. The only suppression is in the morning with your dose of hgh for a few hours after. It’s the same principle as people who utilize hcg/hmg to stimulate the sarcoli cells and LH/FSH on cycle. I don’t know if any of you remember DatbTru or that forum but most of the users their were using high doses of both with the blood work to prove even after they dropped the exogenous hgh. Production was still online and natural pulses were still occurring. I mean it’s expensive regardless but if you can keep the natural system atleast firing in the background you can reap the best of both worlds. Then again an exorbitantly expensive option but for those who are not concerned with the price tag. Seems a good way to come off a hgh blast.

 

[Brochacho_Prime]

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HGH half-life and suppression of natural GH production are not the same thing. Although GH levels may be temporarily increased (hours), the increased IGF-1 will continue to suppress natural GH production (through increased somatostatin production) for up to days after final GH injection. So, you are in fact suppressing your natural GH spikes for much longer than the GH serum levels are increased.

GHRP and GHRH are not going to wake up your natural production.

This.

 

[abletolift]

Too each their own I run both all the time 3iu of pharma hgh and Ipamorelin at night and after second test my igf-1 was much higher than before enough so that my endo thought I was using more gh than I told him… Not too mention I noticed a difference in how I felt. But then again may not work for everyone seems to work just fine for me.

 

[cmlaracy]

Personal anecdote, I used a protocol I derived from copious amounts of research. 4 injection periods a day so it’s a bitch but the difference was staggering. 3iu GH a day VS 3iu GH a day and peps, saw a 2x increase at least in re-compositioning effects, and this was 3 months after a 9 month run on the 3ui Pharma so it had time to do its thing (noticed it in under a week!).

wake up, take peptide combo shot, wait 15-20 min then inject no more than 1iu GH (anything larger and I could tell I was shutting my pituitary off, as I got 0 peptide sides post injection if I went above 1iu GH), wait another 15 min then you’re good to eat.
3-4 hours later same thing
3-4 hours later same thing
3-4 hours later just the peptides so serum GH has time to tank before bed, and you can still get that natural sleep pulse.
Often I would do a 5th shot in the middle of the night of only peptides.

GHRP-6 and Mod-GRF, pharma GH. The difference was drastic, and I have the glucose records to prove it. 3iu at 1iu 3x a day kept me below pre-diabetes without any supps or slin. Added the peptides like I explained, had to take ALA, Berberine, Biotin, and Chromium Pic at their maximum daily doses to avoid pre-diabetic numbers.

Anecdote based off much research, take it for what it’s worth. IGF-1 didnt pass 450 on GH only. Got it up to 650 on this stack. 6 fucking 50.

Additional anecdote, got my IFG-1 to 550 on only peptides, granted 5 shots a day. Four during the day one in the middle of the night. They are heavily underrated. I was not on gear at the time, was using it for injury recovery (psoriatic arthritis + powerlifting = fun times), so no chance that anything else was raising my IGF-1.

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abletolift" pid='35521' dateline='1546116542:

I respectfully disagree. Why would you not run something to tell your body to continuously pulse your own natural production. The only suppression is in the morning with your dose of hgh for a few hours after. It’s the same principle as people who utilize hcg/hmg to stimulate the sarcoli cells and LH/FSH on cycle. I don’t know if any of you remember DatbTru or that forum but most of the users their were using high doses of both with the blood work to prove even after they dropped the exogenous hgh. Production was still online and natural pulses were still occurring. I mean it’s expensive regardless but if you can keep the natural system atleast firing in the background you can reap the best of both worlds. Then again an exorbitantly expensive option but for those who are not concerned with the price tag. Seems a good way to come off a hgh blast.

I’ve been under this assumption as well. I’m not sure if there’s a proper “pct” to restart natural hgh production after long term use but I just assumed you didn’t need one due to the short time you are shut down. As a hgh user I may start throwing in mk677 at night just for the extra benefits.

Watch your blood sugar if you aren’t taking slin, MK gives you essentially no time to reset insulin sensitivity with how long it sticks around.