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Synergy Forge, Underdosed Primobolan Enanthate

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But to be clear Syn is the only source I use now. He’s always treated me with respect.
 

Lionhart72

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Agreed on everyone’s response, Im not trying to debate anyone… it’s just our lifestyle is already like a full-time job with eating sleeping and going to the gym and them you have to delve Into the dark world of the drugs to enhance ourselves and it’s a whole nother job trying to find a good source the will be to your liking. Like I said it’s illegal for both sides either supplying it or buying it… so you have to expect shot will go wrong now and again… I think we are lucky there are labs out there the do there best to supply the need and do right by people to the best of their ability. So just enjoy the journey and expect you might get some bunk shit or just under par shit now and again.
 
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Too much drama here gents.

Raw suppliers have lots of quality issues, including repackagers and resellers who probably don’t follow best QC practices.

This inevitably results in product degradation from storage, production, and shipping. Quality variability is a known fact of life. It is costly for both the chemist as well as the customer.

Good sources do their best to mitigate these challenges by testing and making failures in quality control whole. Good customers keep a level head.

I see this thread as a good example of how the system functions at its best. (Minus the inflammatory drama.)

We have a great call out on a quality failure by a customer who did the right thing in speaking up. We also have a source owning and investigating.

Let’s relax a bit and give the sources… as well as the community a bit of leeway. We may be a bit like like the Adam’s family… but we are a communal family none the less.

Only the government wins when we eat our own
 
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@Astrartes You seem to be making some blind guesses at the raw industry but correctly conclude that good sources migitate these challenges by testing. SST is home to a couple of sources who are a shining example of investing the time and money to test every single batch of raws and finished product. This thread is an example of what happens when a source skips that to save said time and money at the expense of their customers, and this underdosed batch was caught by chance only. It’s not a secret who his source is nor the factories these raws come from - there have certainly been some bad batches of raws, which he was caught selling to other sources using the made up results I posted previously, and you can read up on that mess by the link i posted earlier as well. By his own words posted yesterday, he can’t trust himself to follow through on testing all of his raws though:

“Finally, I commit to testing everything received from any un-vetted provider and POSTING those results, which is not something I normally do. I prefer to drop them on people whom make false claims and I take great joy in doing that even though I don’t show it, but this is my commitment moving forward. I would like to say that I will test everything that comes in; however, I’m not willing to say something that I might not follow through on, I will continue to trust but verify my supplier, they are unique in the sense that they are simply a broker for me alone and do not endeavor to book shipments for anyone else. They are not susceptible to existential influence that most of the traditional sales companies inflict. This is a large part of my success. However I will continue to spot check them and verify the continued relationship. I trust that anyone reading this that is still awake finds it adequate, but am open to any more I can do for either reparations or prevention.”

@Synergy-Forge Why not test every batch of raws and post those results up in your thread - it’ll cost you at most 1% of your profits to do so. While we both know these simps you’ve cultivated would giddily inject your cum if it came with a hardbound copy of your posts, you’re dragging down (the reputation of) SST, which, being my old home, has always been dear to me.
 
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@Liska You are right, without doubt. My observations are anecdotal at best regarding the raw industry… though I suspect fairly accurate.

I have read through many of your posts. Your knowledge far supersedes mine in almost every aspect in the PEDs arena, and is invaluable to the community.

Can I ask why not position yourself in more of a neutral truth speaking manner? That neutrality is a valuable tool. In several posts, you come across as overly fervent.

Overabundant fervency can make things seem personal, which detracts from the value of your underlaying message.
 
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@Astrartes I understand the drawbacks of not adopting the neutral/professional business language that is expected of sources, but exactly this style combined with endless, meaningless paragraphs is being used to obfuscate the truth here, so I prefer to post from my heart without contortion, as this vulnerable style makes it easy for anyone to call me out on any bullshit.
 
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@Liska I’m only aware of two sources from this board (SST) that test. The others just brew shit and say “here”
 
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I know this contributes nothing, but I thought I would share some thoughts.
  1. @Liska Thanks for sending that link, it gave me cancer. If someone could explain what the point of the argument was, that would be fantastic. It does however seem that 51mesa is in fact Syn, judging by the enormous walls of text.
  2. Synergy has seemed to make some questionable choices in the past, but he still is my go-to source most of the time. His professionalism is unmatched. Call me naive but I think he genuinely tries to put the best product out there. I hope the recent drama only encourages him to stay on this board and continue to improve his operation.
  3. I also can not tell what platebruh intent is. He has posted about floaters multiple times, which does seem like a scam. On the other hand, he does draw with 18 gauge needles. From personal experience, you can only draw with that gauge so many times until rubber from the stopper makes it’s way into vial. So it’s possible he may be giving himself floaters without even realizing it.
 
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@PrimeYash Being professional and trying to put the best product out there requires labtesting every single batch of raws and finished product. “Degrade my raws and me as well!” is the clear consensus, so why would he feel encouraged to improve his operation? Are you implying it can be improved further?! Better apologize on all fours to your master before you end up like his professionalism: unmatched.
 
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@Liska
I would love to get on my knees for my papi @Synergy-Forge . International drug dealing is a major turn on
 
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Soooo, where did everyone end up landing on this? I mean, at the end of the day I still may need some fucking primo Haha
 
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Syn said he sent off raws or finished product I can’t remember which. Then nobody heard back. He compensated everyone, I read once or twice that some got a full order refund, so obviously this wasn’t intentional… but it remains unsure of if it was an accident in brewing or raw issue
 

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@damocles13 he gave everyone a refund and also resold the underdosed primo accurately labeled as underdosed at a discounted price, explained it was an issue with a small batch of raws he didn’t test because he believed it would be consistent with other batches of raws hes ordered. Said he got a new batch and is testing and at this point that was almost 2 weeks ago, he said it would take 3 weeks so probably this week we will hear more about the new batch.

Seems it was unintentional and an oversight, and he did his best to make up for it to those effected.
 
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