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Test base vs test no ester (tne)

Dirkdigjig

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My google research is conflicting…Some info reports that tne is more rapidly absorbed.And others claim test base is more rapidly absorbed.One’s in oil (test base) other (test suspension) in water…

Research on horses indicate on average tne peaks shortly after injection.Then peaks again on average,7days later! Due to the varied rates of absorption due to crystal sizes 39 hr half life.

Test base having a solvent in the oil was claimed to break down faster and consistently,peaking instantly and plummeting shortly afterwards.

In that case using said compounds for pwo,test base would be better?

https://www.musclechemistry.com/upl...-testosterone-base-testosterone-no-ester.html
 
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Animutiddies

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I’m not sure what you’re asking so here’s the answer to whatever you might be wondering about:

Testosterone A/E/P/U are all used continuously on a schedule to supply your body with a normal or above-normal amount of Testosterone in absence of natural production.
When supplementing with 100-200mg weekly of Test, you’re generally going to be around the ‘natural limit’ range of testosterone (Most see this as hitting the 1100ng/dl mark) unless you’re a great responder in which case you may sit higher than this level even on such a low dosage.
When supplementing with over 200mg weekly of Test, you’re generally going to be considered to be ‘blasting’ testosterone and this is when you’re using the hormone to push your muscle building/fat burning processes up beyond natural levels.
Even if you were to use the Acetate ester of Testosterone, you would not see any effect during your workout should you attempt to use it as a PWO. You would, however, see results over a period of weeks/months if you continued to pin it daily but you will never see an instant change at all.

Test without an ester is shot 30-90 minutes before a workout and used the exact same way as you would use any powdered pre-workout. You get a quick and potent effect from TNE which will not necessarily promote any real long-term effects (IE: This will not pack on lean mass the same way that a blast or cycle of Test does) but rather it gives you a lot of mental focus, energy, and most importantly the aggression and drive to really fuck some shit up in the gym.
In my gym, guys will shoot this or ester-less Tren on days when they’ve got to work up to max singles or if they’ve had a really shitty day and want to be mad as fuck at some inanimate objects. Now I’m not saying you’re going to shoot a bit of oil in your ass cheek and walk into the gym like The Hulk, but honestly the stuff does help. Tren without an ester is far more pronounced in my opinion but you’re not asking about that.
Personally I see it as an anxiety inhibitor more than anything else. I, and my fellow gym bros, lift for specifically max weight and with this comes a lot of pre-lift anxiety. What TNE seems to do is eliminate this entirely by putting me into ‘the zone’ and not letting me out of it for about two hours or so. This is great, because it’ll allow me to load up a bar to what I need to pull or press and then just smash it without ever second-guessing or having to do a nine hour ritual to get amped up. Now, it’s all weights I otherwise would absolutely still move for the same amount of reps so don’t think this stuff will instantly slap pounds onto your lifts. But, if you go in without the right mindset you could actually fail a lift; TNE or TrNE will help prevent this by not really allowing your brain to slip into that bad mindset.

Now as something I do need to add here, this stuff also has a downside in that if you get psyched the fuck up and go for something big only to miss it (IE: Going for a new 1rm PR) then you’re going to want to break everything in sight and throw a massive fucking tantrum. Not a childish tantrum but like, a grown ass man hurling free weight benches across the gym (I have actually witnessed this, and we thought that was more impressive than if the dude had actually pulled the 675 he had on the bar lol) kinda tantrum. So, if you go in and often look to hit unplanned PR’s like you think you’re Larry Wheels or something then I advise you reconsider it.

TL/DR: Testosterone with any ester is made for cycling, blasting and cruising and you need to pin it daily/eod/e3d/whatever as needed in order to have proper and consistent levels of hormone in the body. TNE is used for overriding your brain’s normal processes and making you want to lift shit and not worry if you’ll fail it or not.
 
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harry888

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You’re overthinking it.

Test Suspension with micronized raws is probably the fastest.

Difference is probably negliable though…and I’d stick to oil given the issues that easily happen with water based compounds and difficulty with brewing them in high concentration/blends + it’s a better environment for bacterial growth to occur.
 
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