Test deca dbol oldschool cycle question

[appropionate]

planning a 500mg test, 500mg NPP, 20-30mg dbol cycle for a friend and have a few questions:

1. do you consider 750mg test & 500mg NPP better than 500/500 + dbol? would be easier to manage the e2 at least. was previously considering 500/500/500 test/deca/equi but I’m not sure the equi would add that much for its cost/extra oil plus adding 2 new compounds makes managing sides more difficult.
2. I want to use NPP to save time up front and afterwards (less wait for nandrolone to clear & start PCT) and I’m not sure about the compound timing:

a) start E/C + NPP at week 1
b) start NPP at week 2-3 for a more congruent saturation to avoid possible sides of higher nandrolone than test
c) run Sustanon for congruent saturation but the longer esters would delay start of PCT just like deca

1. when to best throw in the dianabol & AI in regards to e2 management (friend didn’t need AI on 500mg test alone for reference):

a) from week 1-4 with 6.25mg aromasin & stay at that dose as the rise of e2 from dbol will drop roughly when the test is saturated

b) from week 4 on when test is saturated, e2 stable and any rise is obviously from the dbol and can be managed precisely with AI

c) last 4 weeks, same reasoning as b) but as a ‘finisher’

thanks y’all, if you’re interested in bloods etc of this cycle I can post a report including those etc.

 

[TreyJames]

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planning a 500mg test, 500mg NPP, 20-30mg dbol cycle for a friend and have a few questions:

1. do you consider 750mg test & 500mg NPP better than 500/500 + dbol? would be easier to manage the e2 at least. was previously considering 500/500/500 test/deca/equi but I’m not sure the equi would add that much for its cost/extra oil plus adding 2 new compounds makes managing sides more difficult.
2. I want to use NPP to save time up front and afterwards (less wait for nandrolone to clear & start PCT) and I’m not sure about the compound timing:

a) start E/C + NPP at week 1
b) start NPP at week 2-3 for a more congruent saturation to avoid possible sides of higher nandrolone than test
c) run Sustanon for congruent saturation but the longer esters would delay start of PCT just like deca

1. when to best throw in the dianabol & AI in regards to e2 management (friend didn’t need AI on 500mg test alone for reference):

a) from week 1-4 with 6.25mg aromasin & stay at that dose as the rise of e2 from dbol will drop roughly when the test is saturated

b) from week 4 on when test is saturated, e2 stable and any rise is obviously from the dbol and can be managed precisely with AI

c) last 4 weeks, same reasoning as b) but as a ‘finisher’

thanks y’all, if you’re interested in bloods etc of this cycle I can post a report including those etc.

your making it too complicated man.

test NPP dbol cycle should look like this

test P - wk 1-12 or 15
NPP - wk 1-12 or 15

with these two compounds put them in the same syringe and start the injections on the same day, youll be pinning ED or EOD anyways so theyre gonna saturate fully by the end of the second week.

Dbol - wk 1-4 or 6

now dbol is known for adding to E2 issues so since youll be starting all your compounds on the same day and they will be in your system fully saturated by the middle to end of your second week so then youll want to run an AI in a 3.5 day split (every monday and thursday) i personally reccomend Asin at 12.5 mg and your first dose should start on the 10th day after your very first injection of both compounds and continue to be dosed E3.5D until 2 weeks after your last pin. so if your last pin is on a thursday then your last dose of ai will be two thursdays after your last pin. at that point you will play it by feel, maybe for a one more week do 6.5mg asin every 3.5 days.

for the NPP you may need a prolactin pharm, you could do Caber at 0.25 once per week (that’s what i do and i have no issues or depression) again starting on your 10th day and continues once per week all the way up to two weeks after your last pin or just run P5P daily.

PCT will start two weeks after your last pin, so two thursdays after your last pin youll take your 12.5 mg asin, your caber or p5p, and your nova/clomid/HCG whatever. and youll take your pct for 4 weeks, the first week will still involve 6.5mg asin and then like i said play it by feel dose it again if you need to.

your cycle is a fast acting cycle that leaves your system quickly so thats why i set up the AI proticol and pct proticol accordingly.

i ran this exact cycle based off of blood work for myself, and all my levels came in perfectly normal execpt test which was high, but E2 and prolactin was good.

i strongly reccomend week 4 blood work and week 15 blood work to enture you donty have prolactin or E2 rebound and not know it, its uncommon if you use the proticol i just told you but hey were all different.

one last importand tip, do not get your days mixed up and miss an AI dose and if you choose to pin ED dont skip and day and double up to make up for it.

 

[sourcebrah]

You’re overthinking, just start pinning the test and npp same day at your intended dosages. You’ll feel fine, even if you feel a little off, it won’t be long for test to be in your system. It’s not like after 2-3 weeks THEN you feel test. The test is in your blood stream day 1 of injection, and peaks in blood around 36 hours I believe if you’re using cyp or enanthate, it just takes time to build up to the maximum blood levels you’ll be at for the entirety of the cycle. Personally I’d frontload your test cyp or e and jab 1000 on day 1 or 500 twice in the first week to help in get in your system faster along with the faster acting npp which will peak at the end of week 1 about. I’d throw the dbol in from the beginning or possibly a few days in after your first injections.